The English Football Thread

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10 minutes ago, 0007 said:

He didn't even touch the ball and definitely kicked him in the foot. Even the fact that they called Graham Scott to review it speaks for itself. 

So it was a clear foul in my book. 

 

he got the ball

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

he got the ball

Hojbjerg touched the ball with his right foot. Brighton player's foot went over the ball and never touched it. They replayed it like 1000 times on the TV, I am pretty sure. 

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[0007 511]

Hojbjerg touches it.

Agree to disagree but we will see what the FA  will say about it. 

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5 minutes ago, 0007 said:

Hojbjerg touches it.

Agree to disagree but we will see what the FA  will say about it. 

either way it was nothing like how we got fucked v Manure

and the pen earlier where BHA got fucked was worse as well

[Laylabelle 9,292]

"I'm confused by everything to be honest about our equaliser. When you watch it live it could have been a foul, he didn't see it, and I'm confused by our penalty shout as well to be honest. That's VAR for you'

Brighton manager is confused lol.

Also..know not miles ahead but where did Spurs come from? Didn't realise doing well...thought had a blip...guess not yet

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it is a long season ahead. in the end we will get top four and the fa will heave the dippers to the championship again.

[NikkiCFC 7,563]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

it is a long season ahead. in the end we will get top four and the fa will heave the dippers to the championship again.

Without VVD there is absolutely no chance they win title.

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Roy Keane dismisses Man Utd title hopes while three players are still in the team

United have picked up some decent results since the international break and go into Sunday's clash with Arsenal off the back of a 5-0 win in Europe, but Keane doubts their title credentials

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-mctominay-fred-matic-22940211

Roy Keane has dismissed the idea of Man Utd winning the title anytime soon and says any fans who believe they can are "living in cuckoo land".

The former United captain feels his old club are some way off closing the gap on rivals Liverpool and Man City, and picked out three players in particular who he believes are not good enough.

Midfielders Fred, Scott McTominay and Nemanja Matic bore the brunt of Keane's criticism in a damning assessment ahead of United's clash against Arsenal on Sunday.

Speaking in his role as pundit on Sky Sports , Keane said: "There’s nothing wrong with Man United winning a game 3-1, or 3-2, you’ve got to get on the front-foot.

"Last year, Chelsea scored more goals than them, Leicester scored more goals than them.

"People talk about Fred and McTominay in midfield, they’ve had their chance, we’ve seen them.

"I don’t think they’re bad players, but they won’t get United back to winning league titles. Tim [Cahill, fellow pundit on Sky] makes a point there about Man United having great players, I don’t see it, I don’t see the great players

"They have some very good players, but they need to show a bit more."

United have put the disappointment of an embarrassing 6-1 defeat to Tottenham behind them since the international break, winning three of their four matches in all competitions.

Wednesday's emphatic 5-0 drubbing of Red Bull Leipzig in the Champions League was a better display of United's capabilities, but Keane still feels they are lacking the required personnel to compete for major honours.

He added: "[Donny] van de Beek has come into the club, and there’s nothing wrong with biding your time, but if you think Fred, McTominay and Matic in midfield will get Man United back to the heights of winning titles, then you’re living in cuckoo land.

"They won’t, I think they’re good players - I like them - but not to the next level, and that’s surely what United are looking for."

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6 hours ago, Patrick Bamford said:

THIS!

They played with little or no respect. A thing Lampard will not do. He's too scared

 

Do we need to bring up Arsenals brilliant form leading up to this game?

Or do you really want Arteta, the guy who almost always sets his team to sit back against decent tier opposition, to manage the club.

 

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Ole has problem finding solution on how to play pogba and fernandes together. Yet we won epl twice with cesc as double pivot 

[killer1257 3,282]

Ole has problem finding solution on how to play pogba and fernandes together. Yet we won epl twice with cesc as double pivot 

Cesc was a different kind of genius. When you watch Pogba play, you see how long he takes to play a pass. Cesc got the ball and immediately played a fabrepass. Pogba can only play good passes when you give him a lot of space and time to play those passes. Cesc was different.

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52 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Cesc was a different kind of genius. When you watch Pogba play, you see how long he takes to play a pass. Cesc got the ball and immediately played a fabrepass. Pogba can only play good passes when you give him a lot of space and time to play those passes. Cesc was different.

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Fabregas is definitely better passer but pogba trump him in almost any other category as attacking cm. Pogba has Excellent long shot, can hold the ball, can dribble past player,and plus he has height and athleticism. 

Defensively they are about the same Fabregas is actually pretty good in term of positioning but that doesn't matter if you are that slow, you will always struggle to cover ground. Pogba on the other hand simply does not play with enough concentration to be a good defensively. 

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2 hours ago, communicate said:

Fabregas is definitely better passer but pogba trump him in almost any other category as attacking cm. Pogba has Excellent long shot, can hold the ball, can dribble past player,and plus he has height and athleticism. 

Defensively they are about the same Fabregas is actually pretty good in term of positioning but that doesn't matter if you are that slow, you will always struggle to cover ground. Pogba on the other hand simply does not play with enough concentration to be a good defensively. 

The younger Fabregas would like to have a word with you...

Think you're underestimating Fabregas' qualities, especially over the course of his career. When he was younger, he certainly was someone who could bomb forward, dribble past players, score goals, be decisive etc on top of his excellent passing range.

And the thing or problem with Pogba is we can talk about him having quality X, Y, Z but what he doesn't have is the winning mentality, the determination and consistency to succeed and win (Fabregas certainly has that mindset). He's 27 years old now, should be in his peak or entering his best years but what has he done for United? Practically nothing for someone that is being lauded as (supposedly) one of the best midfielders around. When people talk that about Pogba these days, I feel like they are talking about the Pogba at Juventus as opposed to the one at Man United and he left Juventus 4 years ago. 

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4 hours ago, communicate said:

Fabregas is definitely better passer but pogba trump him in almost any other category as attacking cm. Pogba has Excellent long shot, can hold the ball, can dribble past player,and plus he has height and athleticism. 

Defensively they are about the same Fabregas is actually pretty good in term of positioning but that doesn't matter if you are that slow, you will always struggle to cover ground. Pogba on the other hand simply does not play with enough concentration to be a good defensively. 

I wouldnt swap 1 hair of Fab to 10 Pogba's.....just an average player that somehow has that WC tag on him. He only has to pass the ball or score a goal and the wank begins. Overrated as fuck is what he is.

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WHat the fuck has happened with punishing divers? Where are yellow cards? Retroepective bans? Media outrage? What a bent league this has become

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20 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

WHat the fuck has happened with punishing divers? Where are yellow cards? Retroepective bans? Media outrage? What a bent league this has become

at the same time blatant WWE excurses like frankenstein's on Azpi go unpunished. English football and football in general is sadly going down the drain. european super league will be the final nail in the coffin.

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1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

at the same time blatant WWE excurses like frankenstein's on Azpi go unpunished. English football and football in general is sadly going down the drain. european super league will be the final nail in the coffin.

Exactly why its bent, their darlings get goodies so often yet other teams suffer, I dont care whom is the ref, the rules are the same yet the outcome is different every bloody time.