Edinson Cavani

[yuvala 2,167]

I don't realy think that's a problem.Lukaku is not a world class player right now but he can develop into one.What about the other guys who wheren't world class and didn't had EPL experience?When Oscar,Mata,Hazard,Azpi,Ramires came they weren't world class players (and don't tell me that Hazard was because of a good season with Lille) but they all settled in well and proved their worth.Why something like that can't happen with the kraken?

Thats a valid point, actually.. you got me re-thinking, touche.

[DustinC 136]

SOMETIMES THE CAPS LOCK IS NECESSARY! I don't see how it bothers people to read.....

[Stingray 9,441]

So, Zlatan with Mou didn't fight?

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PS: As far I'm concern, I can speak as much as I want in this forum. So I'll speak as much as I want. And if you still insulting you will get your ass kicked.

roman sacked mou or roman and mou had a falling out but 6 years later, SUPRISE SUPRISE, moun is BACK. these guys are professionals. they ll deal with it. plus we are talking about a zlatan transfer in the case cavani joins psg. if he does that what options do we have

cavani - psg, falcao- monaco, lewa - does not want to come, aguero - very settled, dzeko - city just sold balo and tevez in 6 moths with no replacements, rooney - manu will milk the transfer, rvp - not happening unless 40/50 mil.

so world class strikers left would be higuain/villa and that is barely an upgrade from torres/ba. so fight or no fight, attitude/ no attitude, zlatan will be better for us.

u can say what u want but stop being a busy body and getting urself involved where u r not wanted. learn your limits and stay within them.

No. Zlatan is everything but a 'professional'. He is a very talented, spoiled, stuck up, huge ego maniac. Sorry, but you do not know shit about psychology when saying that. He will be even more dangerous when his flame fades. I would rather NOT see that happen in our team. You bet Mou and him would have a serious standoff.

No, with all the young talent that needs to grow and be nurtured ... Why the fuck do you want an ass like that. What if Hazard or Oscar think: with a guy like that, no way! What then? Really, what then? If Lukaku also says fuck off and KDB as well? Or Mata who seems to be a super nice guy, not loving that style.

Well .... You just killed your last five years investing in young world class talent.

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[IkE 267]

No. Zlatan is everything but a 'professional'. He is a very talented, spoiled, stuck up, huge ego maniac. Sorry, but you do not know shit about psychology when saying that. He will be even more dangerous when his flame fades. I would rather NOT see that happen in our team. You bet Mou and him would have a serious standoff. No, with all the young talent that needs to grow and be nurtured ... Why the fuck do you want an ass like that. What if Hazard or Oscar think: with a guy like that, no way! What then? Really, what then? If Lukaku also says fuck off and KDB as well? Or Mata who seems to be a super nice guy, not loving that style. Well .... You just killed your last five years investing in young world class talent. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

At last... the common sense has spoken!, well said mate.

Zlatan? no way.

[didierforever 7,349]

No. Zlatan is everything but a 'professional'. He is a very talented, spoiled, stuck up, huge ego maniac. Sorry, but you do not know shit about psychology when saying that. He will be even more dangerous when his flame fades. I would rather NOT see that happen in our team. You bet Mou and him would have a serious standoff. No, with all the young talent that needs to grow and be nurtured ... Why the fuck do you want an ass like that. What if Hazard or Oscar think: with a guy like that, no way! What then? Really, what then? If Lukaku also says fuck off and KDB as well? Or Mata who seems to be a super nice guy, not loving that style. Well .... You just killed your last five years investing in young world class talent. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

so u just made our whole team a pack of bad-asses because zlatan came in and had a blow-off. well that seems very highly likely and very tough to argue against. in fact anything with so many "what ifs" and "what then" is hard to argue.... all i know is that zlatan has played for almost every top team in the world - reason he has a short fuse but is a brilliant player.

he went to barca and stayed for a year but none of iniesta, messi, pedro etc became hound-dogs like u expect our team to become.

the only thing that really sticks and is an EXCEPTIONAL point in your post is - He will be even more dangerous when his flame fades. that is a scary thought, but i would still say, he would be a good option for a year or 2 specially if we dont get cavani/rooney. because starting the season with torres/ba as our main strikers is inviting trouble.

[didierforever 7,349]

SOMETIMES THE CAPS LOCK IS NECESSARY! I don't see how it bothers people to read.....

i know. its needed to get your point across specific type of people...

[DustinC 136]

SOMETIMES THE CAPS LOCK IS NECESSARY! I don't see how it bothers people to read.....

i know. its needed to get your point across specific type of people...

YESSIR!

[Stingray 9,441]

so u just made our whole team a pack of bad-asses because zlatan came in and had a blow-off. well that seems very highly likely and very tough to argue against. in fact anything with so many "what ifs" and "what then" is hard to argue..... that is a scary thought, but i would still say, he would be a good option for a year or 2 specially if we dont get cavani/rooney. because starting the season with torres/ba as our main strikers is inviting trouble.

Sorry, that doesn't even start to make sense. Please, look at the original post. Maybe you mistranslated. Yes.

[yuvala 2,167]

I don't realy think that's a problem.Lukaku is not a world class player right now but he can develop into one.What about the other guys who wheren't world class and didn't had EPL experience?When Oscar,Mata,Hazard,Azpi,Ramires came they weren't world class players (and don't tell me that Hazard was because of a good season with Lille) but they all settled in well and proved their worth.Why something like that can't happen with the kraken?

I found out why I didn't have problem putting faith in Hazard Oscar or Mata but have problems with Lukaku. Problem is, I can't really put it into words..

Its just that Lukaku is a STRIKER and I kinda expect more from him I guess. Like if Oscar plays pretty well, give some assists and score here and there then its great. But, if Lukaku doesn't score a lot or miss I'll find it hard... Its like when a midfielder has an OK game its usually fine, we'll let it slip.. but when its a striker he has to score, I mean he's our man upfront.

Hope you understand... I know how I feel about it but can't really bring sense to it.

[didierforever 7,349]

Sorry, that doesn't even start to make sense. Please, look at the original post. Maybe you mistranslated. Yes.

i get what u r saying about all the squad - psychology and harmony and how zlatan can have an important role to play in messing up the psych of youth, but we also have to understand that despite mou saying about staying here for a "long time" , nothing is still assured. what if we start with torres/ba and and the season trophyless and then mou is fired, that would probably be the single worst thing that could happen ti all our investment in youth because their will be no one to use that talent.

again zlatan is a back option in case we dont get cavani/rooney. i for one cant see any other world-class striker coming to chelsea in this transfer window,i.e., if u still consider higuain and villa as world-class.

[Tomo 21,751]

Lukaku is a great young forward with a huge future, but isn't ready to be number 1 forward at a club looking to win the title.

Some think he will hand in a transfer request if we ring in Cavani

[Stingray 9,441]

i get what u r saying about all the squad - psychology and harmony and how zlatan can have an important role to play in messing up the psych of youth, but we also have to understand that despite mou saying about staying here for a "long time" , nothing is still assured. what if we start with torres/ba and and the season trophyless and then mou is fired, that would probably be the single worst thing that could happen ti all our investment in youth because their will be no one to use that talent.

again zlatan is a back option in case we dont get cavani/rooney. i for one cant see any other world-class striker coming to chelsea in this transfer window,i.e., if u still consider higuain and villa as world-class.

Yes , you are right. And I do get that.

But fear would be a bad advisor in this, I think mate. Lets not get into a situation where an individual gets more than our whole.

[Stingray 9,441]

I found out why I didn't have problem putting faith in Hazard Oscar or Mata but have problems with Lukaku. Problem is, I can't really put it into words..

Its just that Lukaku is a STRIKER and I kinda expect more from him I guess. Like if Oscar plays pretty well, give some assists and score here and there then its great. But, if Lukaku doesn't score a lot or miss I'll find it hard... Its like when a midfielder has an OK game its usually fine, we'll let it slip.. but when its a striker he has to score, I mean he's our man upfront.

Hope you understand... I know how I feel about it but can't really bring sense to it.

You voiced a common bias. It is why strikers are mostly slated. Don't do it!

[Diego Kwsta 96]

I found out why I didn't have problem putting faith in Hazard Oscar or Mata but have problems with Lukaku. Problem is, I can't really put it into words..

Its just that Lukaku is a STRIKER and I kinda expect more from him I guess. Like if Oscar plays pretty well, give some assists and score here and there then its great. But, if Lukaku doesn't score a lot or miss I'll find it hard... Its like when a midfielder has an OK game its usually fine, we'll let it slip.. but when its a striker he has to score, I mean he's our man upfront.

Hope you understand... I know how I feel about it but can't really bring sense to it.

Actually I do understand because I have the exact same feeling but I put my faith on Romelu because he proved last year that he is not goal shy and he always tries his best when on the pitch.

The problem we had with Torres was that he was missing from most part of the game and when he had his chances he missed them.I can't really see that as a problem with Lukaku because his movement is great and he is a great presence on the pitch.

On the chances now that he will get,that's another story.I know that he has to work on his finishing but at least he tries a lot when he has the ball.I remember games that Torres didn't even had made a shot.

All this talking about a world class striker is because we want our striker to be a game changer when we need him.OK Lukaku is not for now but I really believe that he has what it takes

[didierforever 7,349]

Yes , you are right. And I do get that.

But fear would be a bad advisor in this, I think mate. Lets not get into a situation where an individual gets more than our whole.

believe me i am not. if it comes down to it , it would be a very hard decision to make. but losing jose in 2 years would probably be the worst thing to happen to CFC than anything in my opinion. so zlatan just edges it for me.

[The Rising Sun 711]

We sent out Lukaku on loan to prove himself.

He did that. Murdered top 6 teams, scored hattricks against united and so much more in a mid table team.

He also became a good finisher, taking chance after chance.

Now you dont want to give him a chance ?

So what if we dont win the premier league this season. Y2K aint gonna happen if we come second.

Ambition is one thing, but doing it at the cost of having no identity is not worth it.

We can buy success no doubt, but do we have to?

[The Rising Sun 711]

I love this club and its supporters, but this plastic surgery approach is something we need to get rid of.

[didierforever 7,349]

We sent out Lukaku on loan to prove himself.

He did that. Murdered top 6 teams, scored hattricks against united and so much more in a mid table team.

He also became a good finisher, taking chance after chance.

Now you dont want to give him a chance ?

So what if we dont win the premier league this season. Y2K aint gonna happen if we come second.

Ambition is one thing, but doing it at the cost of having no identity is not worth it.

We can buy success no doubt, but do we have to?

he proved himself in the best possible way. but to give him the role of the no.1 striker for chelsea would be suicidal. to throw him into the deep against the big teams in title deciding matches and big matches would not be advisable. i wont blame him if he chokes. no one here is saying that he should be loaned out or relegated to even the 3rd striker role, but directly making him no.1 is far worse and that is the reason our board desperately wants a WC striker.

[J.F. 1,484]

psg have money, we have money + mourinho

[The Rising Sun 711]

he proved himself in the best possible way. but to give him the role of the no.1 striker for chelsea would be suicidal. to throw him into the deep against the big teams in title deciding matches and big matches would not be advisable. i wont blame him if he chokes. no one here is saying that he should be loaned out or relegated to even the 3rd striker role, but directly making him no.1 is far worse and that is the reason our board desperately wants a WC striker.

Come on! We have been playing Torres as our No. 1. Lukaku is 5 times the player he is. He was leading the charge to get West brom European football and doing it with style.

He has already terrorised top 6 teams and i cant see him choking playing with Hazard Mata Oscar etc with him.

I personally only see it ending well, but if you think its a risk, then lets take it!

It all depends what formation Jose plays,,,, a 442 will suit Lukaku perfectly and 433 as well. 4231 I hope we dont play at all ever again.