chrismada9 1,948 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 If this happened two years ago, I would have absolutely said yes!This year... "no"... I am a huge fan of Sneijder, but he just would not fit into our team! Keep the "Mazacar" trio intact... we don't need any more players to come in and break it up!If, for arguement's sake, we happen to sell 2-years-running Chelsea fans' player of the year Juan Mata, and get Sneijder... that would be the worst bit of business we have ever done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelCFC 75 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 "I have a great relationship with Jose Mourinho, we have kept in contact since our days at Inter Milan. Does Chelsea need a playmaker? I'm not sure. In football you can neverbe certain of what will happen next but I'm very happy in Turkey. Chelsea have Eden Hazard, Juan Mata and Oscar and you think they're buying me? Are you out of your mind?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 If this happened two years ago, I would have absolutely said yes!This year... "no"... I am a huge fan of Sneijder, but he just would not fit into our team! Keep the "Mazacar" trio intact... we don't need any more players to come in and break it up!So we're going to ask Oscar, Mata and Hazard to play 60 games again? Fuck it, let's loan them out on days when we've not got a game and see if we can get them into triple figures.And Styles mentioned that this is the type of deal we've stopped making.....no it ain't. People think we just buy young, and on the surface that's true but what we've been targeting is value. Sneijder at £5 million on decent wages offers value a bit like Demba Ba did.At the end of last season we had Yossi Benayoun on the bench - Sneijder would be a nice replacement for him if we look to loan De Bruyne for another season but it depends on the make-up of the squad. If we're going with two players for each position then someone like Sneijder could be ideal as another option in that trio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Wesley Sneijder has revealed he has a 'great relationship' with Jose Mourinho amid reports the playmaker is a target for the new Chelsea boss. [sky Sports] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 So we're going to ask Oscar, Mata and Hazard to play 60 games again? Fuck it, let's loan them out on days when we've not got a game and see if we can get them into triple figures.And Styles mentioned that this is the type of deal we've stopped making.....no it ain't. People think we just buy young, and on the surface that's true but what we've been targeting is value. Sneijder at £5 million on decent wages offers value a bit like Demba Ba did.At the end of last season we had Yossi Benayoun on the bench - Sneijder would be a nice replacement for him if we look to loan De Bruyne for another season but it depends on the make-up of the squad. If we're going with two players for each position then someone like Sneijder could be ideal as another option in that trio.Which is what I was alluding to. Value tends to be found in younger players. Demba Ba was a unique transfer in that he had a buyout clause and was on relatively low salary. As far as I'm aware Sneijder has no buyout clause and is earning big money. Why would Galatasary accept an arbitrary figure like 5m? We need to beef up the squad but there's no value in a transfer like this at all. He's 29 soon and would be on a prohibitive salary in relation to the role he would be required for as a squad player. I want Hazard, Oscar and Mata to play the large majority of our games and be the future of the club. Their cover shouldn't be earning more than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Which is what I was alluding to. Value tends to be found in younger players. Demba Ba was a unique transfer in that he had a buyout clause and was on relatively low salary. As far as I'm aware Sneijder has no buyout clause and is earning big money. Why would Galatasary accept an arbitrary figure like 5m? We need to beef up the squad but there's no value in a transfer like this at all. He's 29 soon and would be on a prohibitive salary in relation to the role he would be required for as a squad player. I want Hazard, Oscar and Mata to play the large majority of our games and be the future of the club. Their cover shouldn't be earning more than them.The rumours put the figure at around that amount if I'm not mistaken, which is pretty much the only reason people here are considering it. They're also said that the wages have to be good value too (but let's get some context - Malouda was on around £100k, Benayoun about £85K and Essien is on around £100k). Hazard, Oscar and Mata are the future of this club (although there's an issue with positions for two of them) but they aren't going to play every minute of every match. Let's not forget that one of them broke at the end of the season after being involved in 62 matches and he missed a European final, simply because we didn't have anyone capable of replacing him.In 2006, Eidur, Robben, Duff, Cole and SWP were all involved in more than 35 matches - that's the type of thing I think we'll get back to so why not get an experienced man like this in IF the circumstances are good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 If we get him for the right price and he understands he is second/third choice then this would be a really great depth signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 The rumours put the figure at around that amount if I'm not mistaken, which is pretty much the only reason people here are considering it. They're also said that the wages have to be good value too (but let's get some context - Malouda was on around £100k, Benayoun about £85K and Essien is on around £100k). Hazard, Oscar and Mata are the future of this club (although there's an issue with positions for two of them) but they aren't going to play every minute of every match. Let's not forget that one of them broke at the end of the season after being involved in 62 matches and he missed a European final, simply because we didn't have anyone capable of replacing him.In 2006, Eidur, Robben, Duff, Cole and SWP were all involved in more than 35 matches - that's the type of thing I think we'll get back to so why not get an experienced man like this in IF the circumstances are good?I'm coming at it from the angle that circumstances aren't good. The salary, transfer fee and profile of the player doesn't add up for me. I've long been an advocate of having a deeper squad. Our thin squad is why we have underperformed for several years, not just in the last season. I'd prefer we used KDB and sign another player of that profile i.e. young enough to come in as cover but with scope for long-term development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 The rumours put the figure at around that amount if I'm not mistaken, which is pretty much the only reason people here are considering it. They're also said that the wages have to be good value too (but let's get some context - Malouda was on around £100k, Benayoun about £85K and Essien is on around £100k). Hazard, Oscar and Mata are the future of this club (although there's an issue with positions for two of them) but they aren't going to play every minute of every match. Let's not forget that one of them broke at the end of the season after being involved in 62 matches and he missed a European final, simply because we didn't have anyone capable of replacing him.In 2006, Eidur, Robben, Duff, Cole and SWP were all involved in more than 35 matches - that's the type of thing I think we'll get back to so why not get an experienced man like this in IF the circumstances are good?We don't know if the circumstances are good. If he's happy with a squad role at Chelsea..then bring him in. If not, we'll pursue other targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm coming at it from the angle that circumstances aren't good. The salary, transfer fee and profile of the player doesn't add up for me. I've long been an advocate of having a deeper squad. Our thin squad is why we have underperformed for several years, not just in the last season. I'd prefer we used KDB and sign another player of that profile i.e. young enough to come in as cover but with scope for long-term development.I'm a big advocate of the youth, but if you can get an experienced head to rotate into the team at a fair price then there's really no reason not to go for him. De Bruyne is a great option but his situation is a little up in the air at the moment. He's still about a year or so younger than Mata was when we signed him so another year abroad isn't the worst thing in the world, especially with a World Cup coming up.That's one thing that may convince Sneijder to drop his demands so he can play on a bigger stage and get back into the national squad (apparently he was dropped, can't be bothered to Google). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm a big advocate of the youth, but if you can get an experienced head to rotate into the team at a fair price then there's really no reason not to go for him. De Bruyne is a great option but his situation is a little up in the air at the moment. He's still about a year or so younger than Mata was when we signed him so another year abroad isn't the worst thing in the world, especially with a World Cup coming up.That's one thing that may convince Sneijder to drop his demands so he can play on a bigger stage and get back into the national squad (apparently he was dropped, can't be bothered to Google).Dropped from the national team and playing in Turkey. Yeah definitely not my kind of player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,353 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'd see this as a Deco move more than anything, like above if he accepts he is 3rd choice or something then his experience is great, especially for the younger players too, at £5m + Ba wages, I'd be happy with that, very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Would be happy to see him on the bench rather than Yossi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 He comes in and becomes a great bench option; much better than what we've had in recent years; or he plays well enough to earn a starting place in the team. Where is the "lose" part in this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 srsly? If we are going for worldclass players who are not so world class anymore lol, why not KAKA ? Oh yeah, Mou is back lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 He might do well in the PL, just like Van der Vaart.srsly? If we are going for worldclass players who are not so world class anymore lol, why not KAKA ? Oh yeah, Mou is back lol.I thought you got #banned.. you know, for using hashtags so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDude 49 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 He seemed like such a likable player but now he just seems greedy with the high wages he demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybodyisready 155 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 He seemed like such a likable player but now he just seems greedy with the high wages he demands.Good good, let the butthurt flow through you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christo191 173 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Good good, let the butthurt flow through you.Nah, Mehn, the dude is already with Dark Side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 What does it matter what his wages are, we pay Lampard £150k to sit on the bench half the time. We payed Malouda about £100k each week for a whole year and he didn't even play. Benayoun was on around £80k and he played 9 times this season. Their seems to be some sort of rumor that Sneidjer was on €250,000 at Inter but Inters finances aren't amazing and I doubt he was on that. I bet at Real he wasn't even on €70,000-100,000 so for him to move to Inter so they could pay him €250,000 seems rather extreme.His move to United 'fell through' apparently because of his demands for a €250,000 salary, probably bullshit. It probably fell through because of the transfer fee Inter were demanding even though he warranted one after having an amazing 2 or 3 years with Inter under Jose. I'd say maybe at Inter Sneidjer was one of the top earners but no way did he make €250k, no fucking way, Morratti is crazy but not that crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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