De_ChrapQaa 192 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) I feel like we will have something like "SAF factor" united has last years... idk how to describe it, but i believe in it... he could be our fergusonEDIT: ^^ this wasn't planned i swear Edited July 14, 2013 by De_ChrapQaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 United won the PL last season without a doubt because of Ferguson, their squad was nowhere near the quality of Man City in my opinion. Don't underestimate the influence from the manager. No matter who we sign, Mourinho will be our "signing of the season".Manures had better bench than Chelsea. There is no doubt about it. Scored many late goals that won them games.Jose may do a lot, but players win games, at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Mata is one player, yes he's our best one but he's only one player. If the all squad is more suitable for 4-3-3 i prefer we play it. Not to mention that even if Mata placed on the right, he could still roam around like always. In the beginning of the season he was placed on the right and Oscar in the middle btw.I think that 4-3-3 is more suitable for us because Ramires, Lampard, Oscar and KDB all play better in this system i think. Playing Ramires-De Rossi would realy lack the creativity most teams have in those positions, and it will be hard for us to play against them. Just look at the midfield of Bayern and Dortmund, the two teams who got to the final of last season, they are so creative in this area. Schwei-Kross-Martinez (now Thiago also), Gundogan-Bender, and Alonso-Khdira, Iniesta-Xabi-Busquets. I think we need to build a midfield who could compete with the best, becuase thats what we are trying to be. You just need to look at last season CL to understand that a De Rossi-Ramires pivot wouldnt get us too far. It doesnt fits todays football.Anyway MVG-Rossi-Oscar could also work i think.Exactly. I dont get the idea of people not wanting us to use 4-3-3 because mata will move to the wing. If it helps us win big games, why not? The other 10 players would work perfectly in a 4-3-3 too?In some big games the 4-2-3-1 with mata in the middle, we were dominated in the middle in all mancity matches, juve match and even against benfica, To counter that, sometimes you need a hardworking AM in the 4-2-3-1(bayern use kroos or muller) or a complete change to 4-3-3. That could have been the difference against manchestercity last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,533 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are not the only formations in football nor the only ones we could play..there's 4-1-3-1-1,4-2-2-1-1 etc...too.. but again why get hung up on formations when our players can roam and be more fluid than any rigid old formation.nobody has to be put in an invisible cage on the field where they must stay in only their designated area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 4-2-1-3??de ross- ram as pivot, Mata as CAM..pretty much an attacking 4-3-3 rather than our holding 4-1-2-3 formation used before. Gives plenty of space for our amigos to swap about and attack.Yes. Mata - Hazard and Schurrle/Oscar/de Bruyne as the 3 attacking mids. all those players can play any position in the attacking midfield slot. the problem with going 4-3-3 is our best player - Mata.on the wings is much less effective than in the middle but I think Oscar will thrive in a 4-3-3 with a midfield of de Rossi- Oscar - Ramires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We should go after Arturo Vidal or axel witzel.. De rossi would be a good acquisition but the first 2 would be better i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,902 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We should go after Arturo Vidal or axel witzel.. De rossi would be a good acquisition but the first 2 would be better i thinkAgreed. But they'd also be 2 or 3 times the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Yes someone like Witsel is more expensive, but his wages are much lower. So after 3 years, that's a winning situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Agreed. But they'd also be 2 or 3 times the price. Yes they are more expensive but they are younger. In the long run I think we'd get more out of Vidal or witzel than de rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 after watch World Cup U-20 Final,,Kondogbia is really hot prospect. just a back-up plan if we fail landed De Rossi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We should go after Arturo Vidal or axel witzel.. De rossi would be a good acquisition but the first 2 would be better i thinkno doubt bout it but i think both of them would cost atleast double of what DDR has been rumored to cost at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We should go after Arturo Vidal or axel witzel.. De rossi would be a good acquisition but the first 2 would be better i thinkTransfer prices are relative.... So if you tried flogging a glass of water in Manchester on a soggy Tuesday morning you get squat! But try selling that shit in Death Valley when someone's dyin of thirst!My point being Juventus don't need to sell, and they can't replace Vidal he is vital to there midfield. So your talking stupid money to prize him away.... On the other had Roma want to sell, player wants to leave.... The perfect storm!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are not the only formations in football nor the only ones we could play..there's 4-1-3-1-1,4-2-2-1-1 etc...too.. but again why get hung up on formations when our players can roam and be more fluid than any rigid old formation.nobody has to be put in an invisible cage on the field where they must stay in only their designated area.4-2-1-3....Mata as Cam might bring his best our rather than playing on the wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Well, this business with Rossi seems to stall lately. Come on Chelsea get going here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 4-2-1-3....Mata as Cam might bring his best our rather than playing on the wingsidentical to 4231 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We should go after Arturo Vidal or axel witzel.. De rossi would be a good acquisition but the first 2 would be better i thinkI say we should get both,De Rossi and witsel in the midfield would be killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We already had Vidal and sent him on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We already had Vidal and sent him on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 ^ I believe he is referring to Oriol Romeu Vidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 and what is the latest concerning De Rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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