The Next Manager?

[milka 3,393]

Well, if we get relegated, Kompany probably won't be such a bad option, as I have doubts that Pochettino would like to lead a team in Championship ? 

[Laylabelle 9,536]

3 minutes ago, milka said:

Well, if we get relegated, Kompany probably won't be such a bad option, as I have doubts that Pochettino would like to lead a team in Championship ? 

I doubt he'd come if we got relegated lol..his team have just gone up! Why go to a team thats gone down

[DDA 9,945]

If we do get relegated... there won't be one big name manager who will want to risk his reputation trying to get us back up.

Just imagine 

[Superblue 6,372]

I genuinely think we're now beyond the thought process of protecting Poch and not bringing him in immediately.

Get him in now and let him assess this squad, try and get a jolt out of them to at least pick up a win or few points before the end of the season and he can really kick on from next season.

Whilst it's incredibly unlikely we'll get relegated as teams below us are running out of games and a few still have to play each other, we don't want to still be in with a chance of getting caught with 2 or 3 games left because there's no fight amongst this group going through the motions. 

 

[Blue Armour 4,448]

I said. And lot of others said it. Hiring Lampard as an interim was a crackpot decision.

If we were going to appoint an interim, we should have got a decent one. 

If there was none available, go for your final managerial choice.

I feel bad for Lampard too. He needed to go to some place with a lot less pressure and rebuild his coaching credentials. Not jump back into this cesspool.

 

[NikkiCFC 8,337]

5 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

If we're getting Poch and we have Enzo let's get a shit hot Argie striker for a link up. 

Haven't a scooby who are good Argie strikers @Vesper ?  -last one that was genius was Crespo.

We can bring back Franco di Santo. 

[NikkiCFC 8,337]

6 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 Letting go of a perfectly capable physio and replacing him with the physio that got Dave Grohl through a concert tour....and then not coincidently player fitness has been crap. 

Signs were there. They struggled even with them. 

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/foo-fighters-f1-abu-dhabi-concert-canceled-medical-reason-1235008511/

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Edited April 27, 2023 by NikkiCFC

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

6 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

 Before we start this Show me exactly where I said 'they have had a successful year"

You didn’t say that but you said this season is one of transition. How often do teams in a “transition year” go from finishing 4th to 11th (perhaps even lower)? Not very often.

It’s ridiculous to even use that as an excuse to explain this massive drop off. I mean we have went from a not so semi stable club off the pitch (with the circumstances of sanctions on Roman) to an absolute disaster (with no sanctions) on and off it. 

Do you think when we signed players Lso Boehly & co told them it would be a season of transition…..

Whats changed in that time? Who’s decisions have influenced 95% of the change? Don’t tell me your that naive.

We are a laughing stock. Boehly and Eghbali’s ownership so far has been a laughing stock. Its no coincidence. If it were Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, City or Spurs - you’d agree and be pissing yourself laughing at then. Even for all the bad seasons they’ve had, have they ever had a season this bad in the last 20 years? We could finish lower still.

[Strike 7,502]

12 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I don't think that at all, they came with a purpose to buy youth, it's clear they are building a team for the future and with the multi club system they want to create, they have a place to loan these players gain experience and game time and make the transition to the main team. We as Chelsea fans are used to instant success, buying 28 to 30 year old ready made players, that doesn't seem to be the case going forward, summer window compared to the winter was clear,.they bought players in the summer to try and have the team compete through the transition and it didn't work, was that the managers at the times fault or Thiers at this point no one truly knows. Well known fact any new business (which this is to the owners) makes a loss in its first year, well hopefully this is our loss and it's only up from next season.

It was theirs. The owners themselves have admitted mistakes were made which is usually a big sign https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-21/todd-boehly-says-mistakes-made-in-first-year-at-Chelsea-fc

They had good ideas but I wish they used a completely different approach and waited for the right players when players like De Ligt, Kounde, Raphinha turned down the club.

Newcastle's new ownership did the opposite of what Boehly, Eghbali did. They signed Bruno, Trippier and few squad players like Willock, Targett in the first window and bided their time before making significant moves like Isak. It's working out really well for them.

[Vegetable 830]

Well, I guess what draws people to support Chelsea is not only glory, but also the ever-present circus factor as well.

Roman's ownership was ruthless and hardly emotional, perhaps just as most of his business empire. Meanwhile Clearlake guys came with a Musk-like "visionary" approach and thought they will patch up their understandable lack of knowledge and competence with cash and sprinkled it with some terrible staffing decisions. I'd say it could work in something like Ligue 1, but unfortunately EPL level is so high such deficiencies and trying to fake things here and there mean we are being obliterated.

It's hard to say it's not on TB and BE - they tried to pull the "youth" project and didn't push actually playing the youth. They ruined morale even further with appointing busloads of players and humiliating us numerous times. They were pushing the laughable "oUr dAtA sHoWs…" spiel for way too long. They made mistakes. But if they wouldn't learn from them, they'd be long bankrupt I guess. Something that makes me not hate them is fact, that I have yet to find a reason to doubt they have good intentions and genuine enthusiasm and it's something not easy to come by in this days of clubs ownership structures. Just need to let go off micromanagement and make some on-point recruitment and there's a chance that things will start to flow.

[Seymop 90]

I agree with “ Superblue”, if Poch is the next manager make part of the deal that he comes in now . It gives him time to see the squad in matches and training, before the first major decision of who/how many to get rid of. We need to get that right, otherwise we will fall foul of the Fair Play Regulations and end up with points deductions next season !! If he won’t come now ( and who could blame him), perhaps we move on !!

[Blue Armour 4,448]

1 hour ago, Vegetable said:

Well, I guess what draws people to support Chelsea is not only glory, but also the ever-present circus factor as well.

Roman's ownership was ruthless and hardly emotional, perhaps just as most of his business empire. Meanwhile Clearlake guys came with a Musk-like "visionary" approach and thought they will patch up their understandable lack of knowledge and competence with cash and sprinkled it with some terrible staffing decisions. I'd say it could work in something like Ligue 1, but unfortunately EPL level is so high such deficiencies and trying to fake things here and there mean we are being obliterated.

It's hard to say it's not on TB and BE - they tried to pull the "youth" project and didn't push actually playing the youth. They ruined morale even further with appointing busloads of players and humiliating us numerous times. They were pushing the laughable "oUr dAtA sHoWs…" spiel for way too long. They made mistakes. But if they wouldn't learn from them, they'd be long bankrupt I guess. Something that makes me not hate them is fact, that I have yet to find a reason to doubt they have good intentions and genuine enthusiasm and it's something not easy to come by in this days of clubs ownership structures. Just need to let go off micromanagement and make some on-point recruitment and there's a chance that things will start to flow.

All valid points.

All said and done, it's still year one under their reign.

But they are really making a meal of this first year. A lot of the damage has been self inflicted, with them being seemingly oblivious to how stupid some of their decisions have been.

[Superblue 6,372]

2 hours ago, Vegetable said:

Well, I guess what draws people to support Chelsea is not only glory, but also the ever-present circus factor as well.

Roman's ownership was ruthless and hardly emotional, perhaps just as most of his business empire. Meanwhile Clearlake guys came with a Musk-like "visionary" approach and thought they will patch up their understandable lack of knowledge and competence with cash and sprinkled it with some terrible staffing decisions. I'd say it could work in something like Ligue 1, but unfortunately EPL level is so high such deficiencies and trying to fake things here and there mean we are being obliterated.

It's hard to say it's not on TB and BE - they tried to pull the "youth" project and didn't push actually playing the youth. They ruined morale even further with appointing busloads of players and humiliating us numerous times. They were pushing the laughable "oUr dAtA sHoWs…" spiel for way too long. They made mistakes. But if they wouldn't learn from them, they'd be long bankrupt I guess. Something that makes me not hate them is fact, that I have yet to find a reason to doubt they have good intentions and genuine enthusiasm and it's something not easy to come by in this days of clubs ownership structures. Just need to let go off micromanagement and make some on-point recruitment and there's a chance that things will start to flow.

The biggest issue above everything was adding so many players to the squad in the January window and not moving players out but I do think with that, we need to see how we fair next season. It's clear that the summer will see us move a lot of players out of the club and streamline this squad which immediately should improve the situation with regards to stability, morale, etc. 

The method to the madness may well be on the basis that they were able to bring players in on long contracts before the rule changes. I think a player such as Madueke could have waited to the summer, but I do think some of the activity was pushed by the changes coming in and it has left us with a bloated, unsettled squad but until we see how some of these players develop over the next season or two, we're not going to know whether these short term issues are worth it for the longer term gain of getting some top, young players into the club and locking them down on long term contracts.

Like you alluded to, whilst the owners are businessmen, this isn't a situation like the Glazers or Kroenke or Joe Lewis where there's no passion to actually support and follow the club, which I do think will bode well for the longer term future. If anything they're probably too keen at present, and the whole situation needs calming down which hopefully it can by getting this season out of the way and settling the whole dynamic down in the summer. 

Lessons need to be learnt quickly though as we cannot afford another season similar to this one.

[Antonio8 736]

15 hours ago, Fernando said:

lol will lose all games with Lampard. 

he is an embarassing coach

 

[Reddish-Blue 2,512]

37 minutes ago, Superblue said:

The biggest issue above everything was adding so many players to the squad in the January window and not moving players out but I do think with that, we need to see how we fair next season. It's clear that the summer will see us move a lot of players out of the club and streamline this squad which immediately should improve the situation with regards to stability, morale, etc. 

The method to the madness may well be on the basis that they were able to bring players in on long contracts before the rule changes. I think a player such as Madueke could have waited to the summer, but I do think some of the activity was pushed by the changes coming in and it has left us with a bloated, unsettled squad but until we see how some of these players develop over the next season or two, we're not going to know whether these short term issues are worth it for the longer term gain of getting some top, young players into the club and locking them down on long term contracts.

Like you alluded to, whilst the owners are businessmen, this isn't a situation like the Glazers or Kroenke or Joe Lewis where there's no passion to actually support and follow the club, which I do think will bode well for the longer term future. If anything they're probably too keen at present, and the whole situation needs calming down which hopefully it can by getting this season out of the way and settling the whole dynamic down in the summer. 

Lessons need to be learnt quickly though as we cannot afford another season similar to this one.

Other than Badiashile (when he was given an actual run in the side with Potter) and Enzo.....we didn't need any other players in January. 

Felix will go down as a flop (no wonder why United/Arsenal didn't agree to pay 15+ million for a 5 month loan), Mudryk has looked out of sorts and Madueke can barely get a seat on the bench....so much for "100 million worth of attacking talent".  

I also question why Lampard was brought to the club for like 8 to 10 games, is this like a farewell tour for him?     Might as well have kept Potter till end of the season and negotiated a lower payout based on performance.

I can only imagine what Arsenal, City and United are going to do to us....will be very surprised if it's not 10-0 aggregate against us after those 3 games. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

Sign Poch on a contract to start at the end of the season. He should not have this season be any part of his coaching debut. Also kill off any thought ever of Frank ever being manager again.

[DDA 9,945]

'Bohely thinks finishing in the bottom 3 will give us the top draft pick for next season' 😭 this tickled me 😂

[Costa19 858]

3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

ESPN reporting Pochettino has pulled out of the Chelsea job.

Nothing on their website about that. But i wouldnt be surprised though.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Just now, Costa19 said:

Nothing on their website about that. But i wouldnt be surprised though.

Yeah scrap that they quickly took it down. Fucking idiots

[Cosmin 2,484]

Yeah, cant find anything about that. If true, Im gonna have to start looking for a fucking gun to shoot myself.