Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I guess the hatred for Barcelona is bigger than the hatred for Liverpool/Benitez on here.It's the only plausible explanation that I can think of as to why anyone would think Benitez is more suited to us than Guardiola.No one thinks that... You can only pick one person... Everyone who didn't vote benitez would rather have pep its just when asked who they want they want jose or someone else over pep... It doesn't mean benitez is more popular. And has nothing to do with hatred of barca is greater than liverpool/benitez etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 He's Jose mourinho, the special one, the best manager and the man who does some weird and wonderful things. Also i don't think it will be jose i think it will be pep but that was not the question. Also the only reason he is behind benitez is the voting is because most people are voting jose. If you didn't have jose in there 80% would be for pep.He's Jose Mourinho, the guy we sacked, the guy who had a tumultuous relationship with the owner (but they've made up.....try being friends with an ex. Sure it's great. Now try sleeping with her and see how long before the first argument and you dredge up old shit) and works best in teams ready to win rather than building something new.How many years do people expect it to last if he did come back? 1? 2 maybe? And then what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Voted Pep, but I don't care all that much. They just need to get someone in who knows how to deal with players and has a say in transfer policy to let Roman stop interfering. Another possible manager not listed is Laurent Blanc. Fantastic with Bordeaux and good with France. (he quit after they lost to Spain, hardly a shaming defeat). And in managing France, he certainly is used to dealing with massive egos. Also, being a fantastic player in his time automatically gains you some respect from players (although it doesn't make you a good manager). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 He's Jose Mourinho, the guy we sacked, the guy who had a tumultuous relationship with the owner (but they've made up.....try being friends with an ex. Sure it's great. Now try sleeping with her and see how long before the first argument and you dredge up old shit) and works best in teams ready to win rather than building something new.How many years do people expect it to last if he did come back? 1? 2 maybe? And then what?The same could be send of any manager, we have had or will ever had under roman... They are a bad run of games or bad half a season away from getting sacked. No different of its jose, pep or anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Voted Pep, but I don't care all that much. They just need to get someone in who knows how to deal with players and has a say in transfer policy to let Roman stop interfering. Another possible manager not listed is Laurent Blanc. Fantastic with Bordeaux and good with France. (he quit after they lost to Spain, hardly a shaming defeat). And in managing France, he certainly is used to dealing with massive egos. Also, being a fantastic player in his time automatically gains you some respect from players (although it doesn't make you a good manager). I'd rather have Benitez than Blanc.Anyway I just feel sorry for our players, every couple months they have to learn a whole new system and how different managers want to set up.They are just grasping what Rafa wants and next thing someone like Pep will come in and want something totally different - then he'll get fired by December and Sparky will come in with new ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 The same could be send of any manager, we have had or will ever had under roman... They are a bad run of games or bad half a season away from getting sacked. No different of its jose, pep or anyone.I disagree. I think Pep would get longer than any other manager because of his track record and the fact that Roman views him as the guy to take us forward. He's arguably the best manager in the world right now, and definitely the most in demand so there's a sense that there's no-one bigger to go for if things aren't working out.Plus there's so much in place with regards the type of players we're signing for the first-team, and even at the younger levels, that to sack him would mean a massive sea-change in terms of everything you're trying to do as a club. I think Roman desperately wants a guy to provide stability for the next 3-4 years whilst things happen around the club, primarily the stadium issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Anyway I just feel sorry for our players, every couple months they have to learn a whole new system and how different managers want to set up. I wouldn't feel too sorry for them to be honest. I doubt they even feel sorry for themselves. Look how many trophies we've won over the past 10 years and how many winners medals they've picked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 THE SPECIAL ONE,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I wouldn't feel too sorry for them to be honest. I doubt they even feel sorry for themselves. Look how many trophies we've won over the past 10 years and how many winners medals they've picked up.Yeah the trophies make up for things, but I'm sure there will be players in the dressing room tired of all the chopping and changing of managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Yeah the trophies make up for things, but I'm sure there will be players in the dressing room tired of all the chopping and changing of managers.True, there probably have been a few over the years that have grown tired of it.But do you think Drogba thinks to himself before going to sleep every night: 'I really wish we had less managers.' I'm willing to bet he thinks about all of those trophies, most importantly the CL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I disagree. I think Pep would get longer than any other manager because of his track record and the fact that Roman views him as the guy to take us forward. He's arguably the best manager in the world right now, and definitely the most in demand so there's a sense that there's no-one bigger to go for if things aren't working out.Plus there's so much in place with regards the type of players we're signing for the first-team, and even at the younger levels, that to sack him would mean a massive sea-change in terms of everything you're trying to do as a club. I think Roman desperately wants a guy to provide stability for the next 3-4 years whilst things happen around the club, primarily the stadium issue.Yeah we cannot be definitive for obvious reasons... To clarify i am not arguing we shouldn't have him here, as i would love him to come here, he is the most in demnad due to his current situation and we would be lucky to have him, i think saying he is the best manager in the world is a stretch. He is a great man manager that is for sure, but i don't think snyone has enough info to say he is the best in the world... He could in many years time turn out to be though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We also know where Chelsea were in May, and we where we still are (at least until the next May).In May Chelsea rented several buses & parked them in front of their box, I read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Jose - wins things and installs mentall strenght and winner's mentality , especially if Barcelona is not around. We can call him arrogant as much as we want but if he ends up in Manchester we wouldn't be happy about it. Only for long term of course, but if he comes back to England settling down would make sense.Klopp - would need time, but has eye for a talent and can make team to play pretty nice football. There is nothing wrong with german discipline and sense for organisation too. He seems happy at Dortmund but question remains will he be able to meet his potential there if he keeps losing best players season after season.Pep - His trophies speak for himself. He would be a gamble though. In an ideal world it would be someone from three mentioned. They would be given enough time and wouldn't be faced with sacking after two lousy months.Or someone less established, but good scout, great man manager and even better tactician able to meet our high standards and not have two defeats in a row. Well that was ideal world, but in reality of Chelsea FC...Anyone who wants to take a chance, grab some quick money, is into sadomasochism , or is eager to get new chance in coaching, doesn't care about his reputation too much, which makes him eligible to come her and leave his bags packed...ready to fly as soon as things go sour. To be fair, things change, and there is still time for us to stop this managerial countdown. There is slim chance that we are determined to treat the next manager right ,and in that case, the most likely option is Guardiola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Regardless of trophies or reputation, its Abramovichs club and he makes that clear by hiring and firing at will. Theres nothing to suggest he will put a wedge in the revolving door.We shoudl start with people on this forum, each given a months tenure like that Member of the Month thingy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Regardless of trophies or reputation, its Abramovichs club and he makes that clear by hiring and firing at will. Theres nothing to suggest he will put a wedge in the revolving door.We shoudl start with people on this forum, each given a months tenure like that Member of the Month thingyOne day they'll be a 'choose the seat' number comp at the Bridge then surprise!Your ManagerOr Roman hires himself...Be daft to hire someone again and fire them within a short period..doing it three seasons in a row wouldnt exactly be a selling point for potential Managers.Need to look at track records etc rather then just names..and give them a chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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