Chelsea Transfers

[MoroccanBlue 5,399]

We see this every summer don't we? Our transfers are well within the dark of the media. 

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We see this every summer don't we? Our transfers are well within the dark of the media. 

I don't think that was the case with Havertz and Chilwell, for example, last year.

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

I think TT said so himself that Callum is better further forward on the left IIRC a while ago too.

Did he? When did he say that?

5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

The young boy from the academy, spellings eluded me, maybe a loan would be more beneficial for him.

It's LIVRAMENTO! 

[Jase 43,479]

11 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I just want to see some more concrete links to players so we can get an idea of where Tuchel’s thinking is. What’s the fall back option if Haaland is not possible? Lukaku ruled himself out of leaving so that’s a no-go. What’s the sort of midfielder he wants with Billy going on loan which leaves us short? 

The lack of real info from the usually reliable English sources is weird. We got the Haaland stuff weeks ago and it’s been since from the English press. Pretty much all of the Hakimi stuff is from the Italians.

I mentioned yesterday that I’d only start getting annoyed if we saw other clubs kicking into gear. Well, it seems like Sancho is right on the verge of being a United player and Varane is a very likely signing as well. Arse are close to bringing in a couple of smart signings as well apparently.

Seems like we’re being very low key and deliberate in the market.

Didn't you say you weren't gonna panic yet? Or is it panic mode already? 😛

[OneMoSalah 9,089]

2 minutes ago, Jas said:

Did he? When did he say that?

It's LIVRAMENTO! 

Maybe not the left but inside position meaning front 3 as opposed to wingback. After City game in the league. 

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2021/05/12/tuchel-on-hudson-odoi-s-best-position-and-what-he-needs-to-learn

Aye thats the one Livramento. Hint of Italian or something about it!

Think people are getting a bit too excited about him as in he could come in and be our back up RWB. He is a good talent, dont get me wrong, but I don’t think he will be in the first team squad and if he was, he isn’t going to be playing as often as if he got a championship loan for instance.

I think physically he can handle those leagues and looks ready to go and play “mens football” as they put it as opposed to u23s by the looks of what I have seen and his physical stature but you know, Reece, Tammy, Fikayo, Mason, Andreas all did the loan moves and it worked out better for their development as opposed to coming in straight from the academy. 

Even if not a championship loan, I think Celtic will 100% be after a RB up in Scotland and that would be an interesting proposition for him also with the demands and the culture they have ingrained there. Plus Ange Postecoglou has an interesting attacking philosophy where his teams seem to play that man for man defending, very similar to how Leeds play with Bielsa, but whether or not they are interested is another story. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

2 hours ago, Tomo said:

Revert back to 4atb.

A million apologies because I know Tomo and everyone is going to hate this comment. Believe me I get why but I just can't help myself. The sentence above is such horrible English that it hurts my eyes. Far from being necessary the word back detracts from the meaning. Revert here means 'go back' or 'return' so just saying or writing, "revert to a back four", is the better way to transmit the idea.

I'm off to do two press ups as penance for posting this. 🙁

[Pizy 19,252]

1 hour ago, Jas said:

Didn't you say you weren't gonna panic yet? Or is it panic mode already? 😛

Not panic mode. Just concerned that we have such limited options and we could very well strike out on all of them.

[NikkiCFC 8,516]

For me this price for Haaland is believable. Every rumour offer including us, City and Real is 110-115m.

Next year they will get 75m so this is fair. 40m extra for one season is more than enough. 175m price tag not likely. 

Edited June 24, 2021 by NikkiCFC

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

For my this price for Haaland is believable. Every rumour offer including us, City and Real is 110-115m.

Next year they will get 75m so this is fair. 40m extra for one season is more than enough. 175m price tag not likely. 

Do you think Dortmund care about that? Their stance has been that Haaland is not for sale this summer and if they stick with that, 80-100 million is not going to persuade them to sell when they will get a similar amount next year. Keeping him for another season would help them to qualify for the Champions League and the money they get from the qualification will help them make up the difference.

[Hashishi 148]

We might as well stop talking about this. He wants to go to Real and Hakimi wants to go to PSG. We are signing noone special this summer. 

[Vesper 31,042]

3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

For my this price for Haaland is believable. Every rumour offer including us, City and Real is 110-115m.

Next year they will get 75m so this is fair. 40m extra for one season is more than enough. 175m price tag not likely. 

€110-115m or £110-115m?

€175m is £150m, so I know that is what you mean there.

ZERO chance Dortmund accepts only 110-115m EUROS

that is only £94-98m

using that logic (reducing by the same percentage), we would have ended up with only around £88-92m or so for Eden total, not the £140m-ish we walked away in total payments

[Vesper 31,042]

If you value Tammy at £30m (we are demanding £40 for an English club to but, so take off £10m in English tax for a continental club)

then if we gave Dortmund £120m + Tammy that is £150m which is €175m, or exactly what they are demanding.

Toss in an extra £5m (so then the value is €181m) for a deal-greaser if need be.

It looks like only £4.5 to £9m helped fuck us on Hakimi (partially)

so it is just fooling to not toss in an extra 5m quid or so to secure Håland

I have warned since I joined that all these previously sales turn-downs and trying to squeeze every fucking last pound out of teams by demanding outrageous fees (40m quid for Barkley,  £70m for Willian, £55m for fucking Alonso, £30-35m for Emerson, £40m for BAKAYOKO, £40m for BATS!, etc etc etc etc etc) would FUCK us

now COVID has destroyed the market and we have more dregs to liquidate than any other club on the planet, and we cannot get rid of hardly any of the big ones

and people laughed at me when I said the total loss from deals occurring (and non deals, etc, plus bollocks buys, botched buys, etc etc) would be at least £400m (and now likely approaching half a billion)

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

12 minutes ago, Vesper said:

If you value Tammy at £30m (we are demanding £40 for an English club to but, so take off £10m in English tax for a continental club)

then if we gave Dortmund £120m + Tammy that is £150m which is €175m, or exactly what they are demanding.

Toss in an extra £5m (so then the value is €181m) for a deal-greaser if need be.

It looks like only £4.5 to £9m helped fuck us on Hakimi (partially)

so it is just fooling to not toss in an extra 5m quid or so to secure Håland

I have warned since I joined that all these previously sales turn-downs and trying to squeeze every fucking last pound out of teams by demanding outrageous fees (40m quid for Barkley,  £70m for Willian, £55m for fucking Alonso, £30-35m for Emerson, £40m for BAKAYOKO, £40m for BATS!, etc etc etc etc etc) would FUCK us

now COVID has destroyed the market and we have more dregs to liquidate than any other club on the planet, and we cannot get rid of hardly any of the big ones

and people laughed at me when I said the total loss from deals occurring (and non deals, etc, plus bollocks buys, botched buys, etc etc) would be at least £400m (and now likely approaching half a billion)

I don't think Dortmund are interested in getting a player from us. If they are gonna sell, they want pure hard cash of more than 150 million.

Here's also another thing to note, given our large squad right now, we also need to make sure we sell some unwanted players first - e.g. Abraham - because otherwise, we're gonna end up with an even bigger squad if we can't sell after buying a new player. In Abraham's case, there doesn't seem to be any takers for him at the moment.

[Vesper 31,042]

11 minutes ago, Jas said:

I don't think Dortmund are interested in getting a player from us. If they are gonna sell, they want pure hard cash of more than 150 million.

Here's also another thing to note, given our large squad right now, we also need to make sure we sell some unwanted players first - e.g. Abraham - because otherwise, we're gonna end up with an even bigger squad if we can't sell after buying a new player. In Abraham's case, there doesn't seem to be any takers for him at the moment.

I think we are well fucked atm

especially to do with moving deadweight

this December is deffo our last chance to finally win the FWCC (as in 2022 it becomes so much harder)

we better not fuck that up

its the last major trophy we do not have

I do NOT like the club getting involved with these monster players and then (IF it does happen) end up getting punked by other clubs mainly becuase we tried to lowball to an extreme degree

it is embarrassing, it makes us look like mugs

[Superblue 6,372]

11 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I think we are well fucked atm

especially to do with moving deadweight

this December is deffo our last chance to finally win the FWCC (as in 2022 it becomes so much harder)

How is it our last chance to win it?

We've just won the Champions League with a core group of our squad still young. I understand there are a couple of holes in our squad which hopefully can be filled but we're hardly "well fucked". In fact our dominance in Europe last season suggests to me that we could be well set up with our current group to challenge again. I genuinely feel next season we'll be one of the teams no one will want to draw.

In my opinion having Tuchel at the helm who has already proven is amongst the best around at present, a now established tactical set up and a year's experience under the belt for our new signings last summer and the other young players in our squad, I expect us to be far more competitive even if we didn't add to our squad this summer. 

If we can add 2 or 3 then fantastic, but it has to be quality over quantity. If the options aren't good enough then make do and look again next summer.

[NikkiCFC 8,516]

 

[Styl1994 188]

45 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

My dream is Margot Robbie dreams don’t often come true unfortunately. 

[Vesper 31,042]

1 hour ago, Superblue_1986 said:

How is it our last chance to win it?

We've just won the Champions League with a core group of our squad still young. I understand there are a couple of holes in our squad which hopefully can be filled but we're hardly "well fucked". In fact our dominance in Europe last season suggests to me that we could be well set up with our current group to challenge again. I genuinely feel next season we'll be one of the teams no one will want to draw.

In my opinion having Tuchel at the helm who has already proven is amongst the best around at present, a now established tactical set up and a year's experience under the belt for our new signings last summer and the other young players in our squad, I expect us to be far more competitive even if we didn't add to our squad this summer. 

If we can add 2 or 3 then fantastic, but it has to be quality over quantity. If the options aren't good enough then make do and look again next summer.

erm, perhaps try reading

(as in 2022 it becomes so much harder)

[Vesper 31,042]

Should Chelsea sign Haaland? | Presented by Tifo

 

[Vesper 31,042]

My recs, now that we have likely missed out on Håland, Hakimi, Donnarumma, Varane, and the old stop gap signing ala Thiago, Sergio Ramos

We obviously are NOT going to buy every single one in red (plus a GK + RWB), that would cost around £450-500m

these are just my preferred pics for each position, and for AMF and Winger, there is only one player for each that I can rec in good faith.

 

GK

FFS find one! we are going to be FUCKED when Mendy is gone for a month or 5 weeks Too many to list. Fuck Kepa, I will NEVER trust him, he is dogshit

CB

Maxence Lacroix
Alessio Romagnoli (AC has put him up for sale)
Sven Botman

 

LB/LWB

Robin Gosens  
Ramy Bensebaini   
Borna Sosa

 

RB/RWB

Due to multiple blown out knees (Silas, James Justin), failing on Hakimi, and Barca now keeping Emerson royal, I cannot in good faith advise any purchase atm

BUT, we all know now who is coming (or we again try so hard for): Adama Traoré 

arfffff is all I can say, he damn well better work out, I do not like him as a player, hopefully he changes my mind

that said, he now only wants to go to Barca, so maybe we dodge him anyway

IF we fail on Traore, I expect a desperation bid for Denzel Dumfries

 

DMF

Rice is TOO expensive, fuck it, and Camavinga is going to PSG

2 clear choices    

Manuel Locatelli (be warned though, we will very likely lose him to Juve)
Aurélien Tchouaméni  

 

CMF

Nicolò Barella 
Youri Tielemans 
Sergej Milinković-Savić 
Saúl Ñíguez 
Ryan Gravenverch
Jude Bellingham (next year or year after though, too soon now)

 

AMF

Grealish

 

Winger

Sancho

 

CF

Lewandowski 
Dusan Vlahovic    
Alexander Isak

 

Edited June 25, 2021 by Vesper