Superblue 6,372 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, Pizy said: True, but it’s not like Zouma is some small time player. He’s a full fledged France international who has played well in some big games for us. And he’s still relatively young as well. The club really shouldn’t be thinking of selling him for less than like £35m. Some midtable PL club would probably pay that. He's also a backup player for us, compared to an important player like White is for Brighton or Rice for West Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,963 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 'Chelsea must hate Bayern' Naah, they prepared a nice party for us at their place in May 2012. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 39 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: He's also a backup player for us, compared to an important player like White is for Brighton or Rice for West Ham. But White is also a lot more expensive than 4 times CL winner, 3 times LaLiga winner and World Cup champion. Barella was amazing in Cagliari and Locatelli is now great for Sassuolo but Rice will cost more than both! That is mental! English tax is crazy! Great that we have academy who could always provide us with 5,6 squad players at least. Because alternative is paying hundreds of millions for average players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 32 minutes ago, Milan said: 'Chelsea must hate Bayern' Naah, they prepared a nice party for us at their place in May 2012. Hope we win there again in 2025 final with CHO, Kai and Werner scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: But White is also a lot more expensive than 4 times CL winner, 3 times LaLiga winner and World Cup champion. Varane's wage will surely be more than double than White will get at Arsenal, making him the more expensive player overall across 4-5 seasons. And that's even before taking into account White's potential re-sale value in the future. Re-sale value might not always matter for the big clubs aiming to win trophies, but for the financial side it definitely makes a big difference. Varane is definitely the better buy for United because they need a proven player who will straight away improve their starting XI for a title challenge and should still have at least a good 3-4 years in him, but Arsenal are getting White with the intention of either having him a crucial part of their back line for the next 10 years or get a few years out of him and then sell to Man City or whoever down the line for an even bigger fee than the one they're paying now. Completely different type of transfers, you can't really compare them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 We have opened talks with Sevilla for Jules Kounde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Someone check on @Vesper Beigl, NikkiCFC and chelsea_4_eva 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Special Juan said: We have opened talks with Sevilla for Jules Kounde. Yea, here's Romano tweet about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculatingInfinity 1,477 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 1.78 m (5 ft 10 in) damn, why not get wee man in for the central defense next Edited July 27, 2021 by calculatingInfinity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Special Juan said: We have opened talks with Sevilla for Jules Kounde. oh fuck pls no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Kounde? Why???? Tuchel why???? That means Sarr will potentially go out on loan and Zouma will be sold... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Or are hoping to slot him into central defensive position... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Aside from his size isn't Koundé supposed to be really good? He's the same height as Azpilicueta (1.78m) so obviously a back-3 can successfully have one CB who's not all that great in the air. He's also taller than Reece James who many were campaigning to play at RCB in case the club signed Hakimi as wing-back, so why's Kounde's size all of a sudden some huge problem? I could see some problems with having two fun-sized defenders in the back line (Koundé together with Azpi/James) but having just one smaller player is a non-issue, as long as the other two are good and strong enough to compete in aerial duels. NikkiCFC, Fernando and sainttourist 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Jype said: Aside from his size isn't Koundé supposed to be really good? He's the same height as Azpilicueta (1.78m) so obviously a back-3 can successfully have one CB who's not all that great in the air. He's also taller than Reece James who many were campaigning to play at RCB in case the club signed Hakimi as wing-back, so why's Kounde's size all of a sudden some huge problem? I could see some problems with having two fun-sized defenders in the back line (Koundé together with Azpi/James) but having just one smaller player is a non-issue, as long as the other two are good and strong enough to compete in aerial duels. Mendy in goal gives us a lot of leeway aswell. Jype 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Jype said: Aside from his size isn't Koundé supposed to be really good? He's the same height as Azpilicueta (1.78m) so obviously a back-3 can successfully have one CB who's not all that great in the air. He's also taller than Reece James who many were campaigning to play at RCB in case the club signed Hakimi as wing-back, so why's Kounde's size all of a sudden some huge problem? I could see some problems with having two fun-sized defenders in the back line (Koundé together with Azpi/James) but having just one smaller player is a non-issue, as long as the other two are good and strong enough to compete in aerial duels. I would tend to agree with this if we stick with a back 3. Not so sure if we wanted to play a back 4, however (I haven't really seen enough of him to make a judgement) I have read that he has a very good leap on him and he does have a good success rate of winning aerial balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,985 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Short for a CB for sure, but as mentioned a week or two ago he’s built like a tank and is excellent on the ball. If we do buy him I’m not really sure where he plays this coming season, though. Unless Silva’s game time is much more limited to keep him fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) Fabrizio hasn't mentioned the price for Kounde. Man City bid 55m euros last year and it was rejected, contract is till 2024. This is 50m on a position we don't necessarily need to strengthen. Edited July 27, 2021 by Strike Miguelito 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pizy said: Short for a CB for sure, but as mentioned a week or two ago he’s built like a tank and is excellent on the ball. If we do buy him I’m not really sure where he plays this coming season, though. Unless Silva’s game time is much more limited to keep him fresh. Either Silva or Christensen won't play for sure, Kounde will occupy the RCB in a back three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,369 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 On 16/07/2021 at 21:58, NikkiCFC said: I barely watched Kounde so I am not going to say anything about his abilities. But speaking about height, in 3 atb, one CB being shorter is less of a issue. Walker just played it for England and he is 178cm. Azpi the same. Reece just a bit taller. D Ambrosio played regularly for Conte and he is 180cm. In 3atb, one CB being shorter and with pace is almost advisable. It would be a issue with regular formation but even there you have example of Barca dominating Euro footy with Mascherano 174cm and Puyol 178cm. Kounde as RCB with Chris in the middle and Rudi LCB would not be a issue at all. This is what I said 10 days ago so yeah, I am not concerned about height. Also I expect him to play only RCB in this formation. So he will share minutes with Azpi. Not sure what will happen to James tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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