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1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Bilbao has said they don’t want to sell Nico and have said they will only accept his release clause in a single payment. That puts us out because of PSR. 

I feel like for the right player we could go big again. Especially if there are still some big outgoings like Lukaku, Kepa, Gallagher, Trev, Broja.

The bigger challenges for us I think are 1) convincing a top player to choose us over the multiple other big clubs that are after them and 2) hoping that they don’t ask for wages of over £120-150k a week.

The transfer fees I don’t think are the problem. 

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34 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I feel like for the right player we could go big again. Especially if there are still some big outgoings like Lukaku, Kepa, Gallagher, Trev, Broja.

The bigger challenges for us I think are 1) convincing a top player to choose us over the multiple other big clubs that are after them and 2) hoping that they don’t ask for wages of over £120-150k a week.

The transfer fees I don’t think are the problem. 

Nothing less than £200k will entice a "top player" to join, particularly in Willliams' case as one of the stars of the Euros.

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It's true we can spend big. Most reliable journalist out there Ornstein reported while ago that we are fine after selling hotels. Every player sale is plus and we got close to 90m pounds pure profit just for Hall, Maatsen and Hutchinson. 

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Chelsea want to sign Gabriel MEC. I swear i dont understand what's going on here. There is a lot of hype about him in his state, but when i watch his videos, i just cant see why. Is not in any way some special prospect in my opinion.

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7 minutes ago, Arlen Correa said:

Chelsea want to sign Gabriel MEC. I swear i dont understand what's going on here. There is a lot of hype about him in his state, but when i watch his videos, i just cant see why. Is not in any way some special prospect in my opinion.

heh just heard that!
He's supposed to be a talent, but he's only turned 16.

He's represented by Neymar's father/family. It could be poaching given that in Brazil players can only sign a professional contract once they turn 16, so until then they are fair game; my understanding is that he has not yet signed that contract.

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Clownlake buying only dross no one proven player  . Guiu , Veiga   don't sound like names for a team that will be in the top four. United , for example, built a football structure and judging by the names they want, they are obviously building something meaningful, while in Chelsea PR is leading how great will be the talents that are taken from South America .

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8 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

It's definitely pathetic to sing about French players after winning Copa but should they even be insulted by this song?

If you ask Mbappe for example...  Is your father from Cameroon? Mother from Algeria? Had relationship with trans person? You have French passport? He would say yes, yes, yes and yes. And he can be proud about all that. 

Did he ever claim the trans lady though?

I know they hung out but I didnt see any kissing in the photos.

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2 hours ago, milka said:

Clownlake buying only dross no one proven player  . Guiu , Veiga   don't sound like names for a team that will be in the top four. United , for example, built a football structure and judging by the names they want, they are obviously building something meaningful, while in Chelsea PR is leading how great will be the talents that are taken from South America .

Agreed. After the signings of all those proven players in 2022 and how well it went i can't believe we're not repeating such a proven succesful formula.

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Agreed. After the signings of all those proven players in 2022 and how well it went i can't believe we're not repeating such a proven succesful formula.

And a couple of years earlier, just won a small CL after beating Real Madrid and City with Jorginho and Kova in midfield. The formula we are using now is the unproven one. If we go back in our recent history you will see a lot of proven players behind a lot of silverware.

Or perhaps are you suggesting Chelsea FC is now a small club who can't sign proven players anymore? What exactly is the upside with the self-imposed wage structure which makes us less attractive to talented players?

Last time I checked, City, Madrid, Bayern, and even Barca keep on signing pretty proven footballers. 🤷‍♂️

IMO, you have to both, sign promising young players as well as proven players to solidify the squad and compete at the highest level. Unfortunately, we have only been doing the former.

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14 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

To be fair, South American attackers and Atletico Madrid just go so well together. 

Aguero, Falcao, Forlan, Suarez for that stint, Diego Costa (even though he played for Spain)

The rage part was about Samu

1. Us buying Samu when there are far better proven CF options out there now.

2. Us buying Samu from AM helps AM to buy Julián Álvarez from Citeh.

Why should we aid them? It's like an indirect paetial swap deal, with AM getting a superb CF, and we end up with a potential turd in the punchbowl (and not at all on the cheap, Samu will cost roughly double the price of J David).

 

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4 hours ago, robsblubot said:

And a couple of years earlier, just won a small CL after beating Real Madrid and City with Jorginho and Kova in midfield. The formula we are using now is the unproven one. If we go back in our recent history you will see a lot of proven players behind a lot of silverware.

Or perhaps are you suggesting Chelsea FC is now a small club who can't sign proven players anymore? What exactly is the upside with the self-imposed wage structure which makes us less attractive to talented players?

Last time I checked, City, Madrid, Bayern, and even Barca keep on signing pretty proven footballers. 🤷‍♂️

IMO, you have to both, sign promising young players as well as proven players to solidify the squad and compete at the highest level. Unfortunately, we have only been doing the former.

My main point is the 'proven' players only work if they're actually performing, else they may aswell be unproven players themselves for the amount of use they'll be.

If you count up players silverware and experience Varane and Casemiro are probably top 10 if not top 5 when it comes to active players, and they finished two places below us.

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42 minutes ago, Tomo said:

My main point is the 'proven' players only work if they're actually performing, else they may aswell be unproven players themselves for the amount of use they'll be.

If you count up players silverware and experience Varane and Casemiro are probably top 10 if not top 5 when it comes to active players, and they finished two places below us.

The post I replied to alluded to, sarcastically, that signing proven players had never provided success, which is factually wrong here and elsewhere. The current approach is the one which has not yet provided any silverware. Now, we can discuss what the future holds, but that's the case so far.
Heh those 2 were very poor signings from the get go -- both 30+ too. Casemiro was showing signs of fast decline for Brazil way before Madrid let him go. Kovacic was a proven player at his peak form and age; he was an excellent signing in my book.

The best example is goalie; that's the one position you don't bet on.... at least not if you want silverware.

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5 hours ago, robsblubot said:

And a couple of years earlier, just won a small CL after beating Real Madrid and City with Jorginho and Kova in midfield. The formula we are using now is the unproven one. If we go back in our recent history you will see a lot of proven players behind a lot of silverware.

Or perhaps are you suggesting Chelsea FC is now a small club who can't sign proven players anymore? What exactly is the upside with the self-imposed wage structure which makes us less attractive to talented players?

Last time I checked, City, Madrid, Bayern, and even Barca keep on signing pretty proven footballers. 🤷‍♂️

IMO, you have to both, sign promising young players as well as proven players to solidify the squad and compete at the highest level. Unfortunately, we have only been doing the former.

Who are City’s best players? 
 

When did they buy them? Were they what you would say proven when they were bought? 
 

Same with Real. All their best players were bought before “proven” status. 

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