Chelsea Transfers

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

3 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

But I like discussing and making theories on these stuff even if I'm wrong, no need to take me serious and yes most is because I'm bitter of what happened with Enzo.

That's fair enough, you just need to present it that way rather than putting it factually otherwise you'll find yourself in a situation like this.

[TheHulk 2,456]

[TheHulk 2,456]

 

[Vesper 30,178]

44 minutes ago, TheHulk said:

My English is not that good but what I meant is if we are reportedly looking at Thuram, maybe just maybe the talks with Moukoko didn't go so good, why else would Chelsea look at bringing Thuram now, one week after the market was open. Boehly and the rest already knew Thuram was gonna be in his last 6 month of his contract long before why the interest now and not in December to get everything  in as early as possible.

If Thuram or another striker signs, I see no reason to believe Moukoko will sign as well, why would he if he wants to play regular, also would be pointless to sign 2 young strikers and loan both of them. When I saw the Moukoko stuff I thought we'd plan on buying him for the first team so these Thuram stuff if true I doubt it means we get both.

oki

and the second one is believable

if I was Moukoko and saw us buy Thuram I would be pissed off IF I wanted to come to Chels before that

my whole issue was that I thought you had some news that Moukoko had fucked us off, said, nah, pass on your club

[Pizy 18,909]

At this point I’m well past caring about the rest of this season. I’m already looking towards next season with positivity. 

If we can bring in someone in January that helps us in the rest of our Champions League run then great. If not, whatever. Top 4 is long gone. May as well start Chukwameka & Hutchinson the rest of the way to get them experience. They might be impressive enough given regular starts that they’ll save us money come the summer.

[DDA 9,938]

2 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

It's the hope that kills you, don't do this to yourself.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Its not happening. Jesus Christ. No way we get other players in by paying €120mn for 1 player. There is no wriggle room after the last kamikaze negotiations done by Boehly & co.

[Hamilton 2,120]

According to Belgian newspaper nieuwsblad are we after 18y old Noah Mbemba of Club Bruges. The defensive midfielder is not going to sign a new contract that ends in June. City and Barcelona also showing interest.

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 reports @marcoconterio

.Celtic full-back Josip Juranovic is now edging closer to moving to Serie A newboys Monza this month.

It was reported recently that Monza made contact with the entourage of Juranovic recently and Celtic’s asking price of about €8 million was also revealed.

https:upo//www.getfootballnewsitaly.com/2023/celtics-josip-juranovic-inches-towards-serie-a-switch/

 

an RV alternative then falls away.
so there is only:

Malo Gusto unfortunately still injured until mid/end of Jan.

Pedro Porro is only available for 45 million (AK) and Spurs are also very keen on him.

Dumfries not my choice, too expensive, Inter wants 50 million euros.

Frimpong would be the best option available at the moment and would help us immediately. 25-35 million euros

Maehle wants to move to Juventus, which could happen in the winter or summer at the latest.

Walker-Peters no thanks

Wildcard option Iván Fresneda has had a great season in LaLiga so far.


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[OneMoSalah 8,886]

2 hours ago, Pizy said:

At this point I’m well past caring about the rest of this season. I’m already looking towards next season with positivity. 

If we can bring in someone in January that helps us in the rest of our Champions League run then great. If not, whatever. Top 4 is long gone. May as well start Chukwameka & Hutchinson the rest of the way to get them experience. They might be impressive enough given regular starts that they’ll save us money come the summer.

Not going to lie just abandoning the second half of the season just because top 4 is highly unlikely would be stupid as fuck. It would also ultimately seal GPs fate as he will undoubtedly get sacked if we don’t make a push for European football of some sort ie. top 6/7 (can’t believe I am typing this as top 4 should be the realistic target). 

With another coach of a higher experience at this level I think the season could be salvaged but with GP, unfortunately, I think it’s incredibly unlikely. He is far too naive. The pressure is on him and I think that last presser where he said ‘the presses questions were stupid but he has to answer them’ shows how incredibly naive he is at this level. Not to mention the players mentality and work ethic under him in games. If Mourinho, Conte, Tuchel, Ancelotti or any other manager got asked those same set of questions, I guarantee they wouldn’t of come out with such a babyish response. 

He cannot just afford to go ok lets play the kids every week and not try and establish his philosophy and tactics with the first team players he likes because whatever he’s been doing so far, it hasn’t really worked and I am not fully buying this injuries being the only reason. Plus recruiting is going to be a disaster with no European football and a manager who is looking more and more out of his depth. 

Plus putting too much responsibility or pressure on Hutchison and Chukwameka so soon and expecting them to “save us money in the summer” would also be idiotic. They’re still young and highly inexperienced as professional footballers. They haven’t accumulated the experience Mount, James, Tammy, Tomori etc did at lower levels/playing games. We’ve all seen how boys like McEachran and even Hudson-Odoi have played out in recent times. Personally, although it may not of seemed that way in the past, Foden at City in recent times has been the best example of a player from an academy going straight into their first 11 without a loan. He played sporadically then built up, and now he is 1) experienced enough and 2) mentally ready to be relied on heavily. 

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Good luck whoever is going to convince signings we are worth it.

[Johnnyeye 7,509]

no top player in their right mind will want to join this mess of a club right now

Edited January 8, 2023 by Johnnyeye

[Bren 41]

17 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said:

no top player in their right mind will want to join this mess of a club right now

Yup. It seems to me that the only players who end up coming here only do so for the massive contract and what I'm assuming is a relaxed atmosphere at Cobham where a player can kick back and play a little table tennis or foosball followed by a leisurely swim or round of football-basketball. Players with real sporting ambition don't go to Chelsea.

[Tomo 21,751]

35 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said:

no top player in their right mind will want to join this mess of a club right now

People said the same about Casemiro going to United when they were in an even worse state.

[Vegetable 830]

I wouldn't be so worried about the players; Salary sweetens the deal and let's be clear - players nowadays are not ambitious types, who are willing to fight for the place in their new club. The dumpster fire here may actually be an advantage, as they will be quite certain they are getting game time. If only we had some player figure or a manager who people want to work with, I wouldn't worry at all, even for top targets.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

Declan Rice is the answer. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,505]

6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Not going to lie just abandoning the second half of the season just because top 4 is highly unlikely would be stupid as fuck. It would also ultimately seal GPs fate as he will undoubtedly get sacked if we don’t make a push for European football of some sort ie. top 6/7 (can’t believe I am typing this as top 4 should be the realistic target). 

With another coach of a higher experience at this level I think the season could be salvaged but with GP, unfortunately, I think it’s incredibly unlikely. He is far too naive. The pressure is on him and I think that last presser where he said ‘the presses questions were stupid but he has to answer them’ shows how incredibly naive he is at this level. Not to mention the players mentality and work ethic under him in games. If Mourinho, Conte, Tuchel, Ancelotti or any other manager got asked those same set of questions, I guarantee they wouldn’t of come out with such a babyish response. 

He cannot just afford to go ok lets play the kids every week and not try and establish his philosophy and tactics with the first team players he likes because whatever he’s been doing so far, it hasn’t really worked and I am not fully buying this injuries being the only reason. Plus recruiting is going to be a disaster with no European football and a manager who is looking more and more out of his depth. 

Plus putting too much responsibility or pressure on Hutchison and Chukwameka so soon and expecting them to “save us money in the summer” would also be idiotic. They’re still young and highly inexperienced as professional footballers. They haven’t accumulated the experience Mount, James, Tammy, Tomori etc did at lower levels/playing games. We’ve all seen how boys like McEachran and even Hudson-Odoi have played out in recent times. Personally, although it may not of seemed that way in the past, Foden at City in recent times has been the best example of a player from an academy going straight into their first 11 without a loan. He played sporadically then built up, and now he is 1) experienced enough and 2) mentally ready to be relied on heavily. 

That's a bad example, Foden was given time to develop as they had class players in midfield controlling the tempo and dictating play in KdB, Gundogan and Bernardo. 

Not every youngster will get a chance to walk into a side with that much technical talent. 

It's a shame about Hudson-Odoi at Chelsea as he was making that break through before that achilles injury and then his development went out the window, we changed managers a few times and we sent him out on loan 2 seasons too late. 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Declan Rice is the answer. 

Depends what's the question 🤔 

[NikkiCFC 8,319]

Maguire to Aston Villa. Good for United. We also have some players in starting lineup that want 300k per week but in reality if we put them on market best they could hope for is exactly teams like AV, Everton coming for them. So they have nothing to back their demands. Let's see if we are ruthless like United. 

[Mhsc 1,097]

Curious if this run of form drives up our transfer budget and likelihood to just go and buy an Enzo for too much money…