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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

I don't see that

 

Still not convinced. Brief passing portion of the video and hardly anything was breath taking. Seems like another dribble merchant adding on to a profile we already have imo. 
 

Fofana I am excited about. Badiashile I’m on the fence. 

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7 minutes ago, DDA said:

I'd rather Randal Kolo Muani

  pretty much every viable CF option atm


Victor Osimhen    

Dusan Vlahovic

Jonathan David  
Ivan Toney  (betting issues???)
Amine Gouiri    
Randal Kolo Muani 
Arnaut Danjuma   
Youssoufa Moukoko (he is only 18 though)
Marcus Thuram
Gonçalo Ramos  
Aleksandar Mitrović (hard as fuck pull now)
Noah Okafor 
Evanilson 
Benjamin Sesko  (tracking to 20 goals, 0 assists over a full season's minutes, at age of 19) 

Hugo Ekitiké  is likely NOT available, so doubt PSG will sell him (other than for CRAY dosh)

stopgap:

Duván Zapata

 

Brasilian youth:
Yuri Alberto  
Marcos Leonardo 
Vitor Roque   

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5 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Still not convinced. Brief passing portion of the video and hardly anything was breath taking. Seems like another dribble merchant adding on to a profile we already have imo. 
 

Fofana I am excited about. Badiashile I’m on the fence. 

as I always say

I want to finish off buying

Arsen Zakharyan

and Moukoko

grab a bloody Right-Back (madness this has not been sorted)

and then see what we do in MF (older players, not youth)

from

(removing Enzo and Bellingham)

the remotely available CMF/DMFs left that I rate:

Nicolò Barella (probably impossible atm)
Moisés Caicedo 
Roméo Lavia    
Manu Koné 
Alexis Mac Allister (scored a brace today)
Martín Zubimendi 

Bruno Guimarães (very likely will not leave, after the Tchou turn-down in buying (GRRRRRRRR), the 2nd biggest DMF choke we made in ages)

then


Mikel Merino
Amadou Onana  
Marcos Llorente  
Danilo  (Palmeiras)
Khéphren Thuram
Manuel Ugarte

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side note:

fucking Citeh snatched my Argie youth possible Enzo clone prospect (Máximo Perrone) but Manuel Ugarte (pic above) is a poor man's Uruguayan version, and is also only 21yo

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44 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Tbh, there really isn’t any standout, no-brainer CF to target right now. Hence why I’m seeing United linked with Wout fucking Weghorst today 🤣🤣🤣

 

There's a reason the striker market is becoming scarse and that's because the game is moving on from the out and out striker.

Even the best one's who still score shitloads look awkward fits (ala Haaland at City, breaking record for fun yet still may lose the title to Arsenal).

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15 minutes ago, Tomo said:

There's a reason the striker market is becoming scarse and that's because the game is moving on from the out and out striker.

Even the best one's who still score shitloads look awkward fits (ala Haaland at City, breaking record for fun yet still may lose the title to Arsenal).

True. Thuram has the physique of your classic #9 but is still saucy on the ball so I wouldn’t be terribly upset if we got him for a decent price.

But on the other hand I wouldn’t be mad either if we didn’t play with a traditional striker and brought in another winger who can score.

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2 hours ago, Pizy said:

Tbh, there really isn’t any standout, no-brainer CF to target right now. Hence why I’m seeing United linked with Wout fucking Weghorst today 🤣🤣🤣

 

well, there are two for me

the same two as always

it is just a matter of paying enough

Osimhen

Vlahovic (who will cost less)

after those two, atm, the drop-off is fairly large in terms of who is actually available, again stressing ATM

I do not truly rate Lautaro, even if he was available (he is not) as being at their level

Kane will never play here, we passed on Gabriel Jesus 

Julián Álvarez is not for sale, and Mbappe and Håland are pipe dream land

Rom was a HUGE bust, and Darwin is struggling a bit and also not for sale

that is the entire top 10 in valuation right there

Lewa and Benz are soon aged out in terms of top or near top WC level (2 to 4 more years MAX, and that is if they stay healthy) I cannot see them near the level they are now at 39, 40 years old

 

BIG wild card, if you look at him as a CF only

Youssoufa Moukoko

IF we get him, I will be far less stressed about CF and failing (we likely will) on Osimhen and Vlahovic

 

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46 minutes ago, Artandur said:

I fear you guys are over-estimating Thuram's technical abilities

if we are not going to buy one of the only 2 actually available WC CF (Osimhen and Vlahovic)

which we likely will NOT do

then we need to just buy/sign Moukoko and roll with him and DDF as youth strikers

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9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

if we are not going to buy one of the only 2 actually available WC CF (Osimhen and Vlahovic)

which we likely will NOT do

then we need to just buy/sign Moukoko and roll with him and DDF as youth strikers

What makes you think they’re available and affordable?

Moukoko seems like the obvious choice that we might actually be able to get in Jan. Not seeing much in the way of rumours tho.

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I've said a number of times that the club shouldn't be wasting tens of millions on players that are filling squad places. We've wasted far too much money in that way in the past.

Instead we need to strike a balance of creating spots and opportunities for academy and younger players to be promoted and fill them, alongside good value opportunities which are not costing the club a fortune in this day and age.

I do think Thuram fits into that bracket if talk is correct that Gladbach are only looking at around £8 - 10m for him. He could easily be a very cost effective way of solving the empty abyss that seems to be our striking options at present, and offers the flexibility to play out wide or alongside another. 

The one thing he does offer which we completely lack is a direct, robust, physical presence in attack with pace. Our side at times looks so slow and one paced. Teams not only look at our current defence and feel they can attack it with pace and stop us pushing too high up the pitch but also at the other end, teams can do this and keep the pitch compact by pushing their own defensive line up as they're not worried about the space in behind because there's little pace in our team to expose that. At the very least Thuram would give something completely different for teams to consider.

For the price, I wouldn't be against taking advantage of the expiring contract and snapping him up. He certainly feels like someone we'd be taking a bit of a punt on but hopefully we'd have a 25 year old seemingly on an improving, upward trajectory with his prime years ahead for a steal. At worst, we've got a player who should be more than capable fulfilling a squad role across a front line consisting of a number of players who are struggling to offer consistent output anyway.

 

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6 hours ago, Mhsc said:

What makes you think they’re available and affordable?

Moukoko seems like the obvious choice that we might actually be able to get in Jan. Not seeing much in the way of rumours tho.

I said nothing about January in that post, but Vlahovic is definitely in play (maybe even now), due to Juve's nightmare situ,

and the figures I have seen for some time (€80m (£70.5m) or so)

are far below the price it would take to prise Osimhen away next summer or the one after that

I would not pay more than £75-80m or so for him

£90m or so max for Osimhen, as that is over 100m euros (102m)

I would NOT pay over £50-60m or so for any other available CF

none out there atm ar worth more than that

 

there are but a handful (8, 7 if you count Mbappe as a winger, and 3 of the 8 (or 7) are rapidly ageing, and even Kane is soon 30) of truly WC CFs out there (available or not) on the planet atm

in Blue are the only under 30yo WC PURE CFs next season--- THREE
    
Kylian Mbappé  (and tbh, he is NOT a true CF, but he is the best player on the planet atm and does play at CF sometimes)
Erling Haaland
Robert Lewandowski 
Karim Benzema
Harry Kane
Victor Osimhen
Dusan Vlahovic 

Ciro Immobile

drop off

best of the rest atm

Lautaro Martínez
Gabriel Jesus
Julián Álvarez  (will be WC IMHO)

Moukoko was the potential to get there

these are the best potential teen CFs atm (well Hugo is 20yo now)

 in order of current valuation

Endrick 16  (may end up a winger)
Youssoufa Moukoko 18
Hugo Ekitiké 20
Mathys Tel  17
Benjamin Sesko 19

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