Erling Haaland

[King Kante 1,643]

47 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Doubt Haaland could solve our ST issues for 10-15 years as he won't stay for that long. I give him max 5-6 years with us before moving to either Barca or Madrid.

Barca are essentially Leeds circa 2003 broke and Real are in quite a pickle too. Not sure how either team is going to get out of their hole in the next five years. I mean Barca have to cut their wage bill by over €300m before next season starts. As for Real, they need a squad overhaul and they don't have any assets to sell as they've all aged out. 

The stadium renovations and lack of government money has been a real bitch for them. 

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

42 minutes ago, Vesper said:

6 years (age 21 to age 26, he turns 27 in the middle of the summer after his 6th season if he comes now) as our CF would be a dream

let him go to Real at 27, they would get 3 seasons of sub 30yo play out of him, versus our 6

deal

 

Or he could stay with us for less like 3-4 years, depending on our results in both PL and CL.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

4 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Barca are essentially Leeds circa 2003 broke and Real are in quite a pickle too. Not sure how either team is going to get out of their hole in the next five years. I mean Barca have to cut their wage bill by over €300m before next season starts. As for Real, they need a squad overhaul and they don't have any assets to sell as they've all aged out. 

The stadium renovations and lack of government money has been a real bitch for them. 

 

They are broke now because Covid 19, likely won't be in the next 3-4 years.

[King Kante 1,643]

7 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

They are broke now because Covid 19, likely won't be in the next 3-4 years.

Lets see, Barca are over €1bn in debt and Real aren't far behind. Both are having to take refinance at bad rates just to keep the lights on. Neither really have any sellable assets due to age and contracts (ok, Barca do but that is selling the family silver territory; Pedri/De Jong.) Also, they can't sell out to oil money (officially at least) owing to their tax beneficial 'membership' model and their members having voting rights. 

It is the only reason why they are still signed up to the Super League as without the €400m it is pretty much goodnight, god bless as my old Nan used to say. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Just now, King Kante said:

Lets see, Barca are over €1bn in debt and Real aren't far behind. Both are having to take refinance at bad rates just to keep the lights on. Neither really have any sellable assets due to age and contracts (ok, Barca do but that is selling the family silver territory; Pedri/De Jong.) Also, they can't sell out to oil money (officially at least) owing to their tax beneficial 'membership' model and their members having voting rights. 

It is the only reason why they are still signed up to the Super League as without the €400m it is pretty much goodnight, god bless as my old Nan used to say. 

Both Barca and Madrid are still having massive revenues, they are in top 3 richest clubs in the world alongside United. In 19/20 Barca had €715.1m and Madrid had €691.8m. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

Edited July 4, 2021 by Blues Forever

[King Kante 1,643]

12 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

Both Barca and Madrid are still having massive revenues, they are in top 3 richest clubs in the world alongside United. In 19/20 Barca had €715.1m and Madrid had €691.8m. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

As I said, lets see. La Liga have introduced a €380m salary cap. Barca are currently over by €300m and cannot register their new signings officially yet or re-sign Messi because of it. 

Barca and Real, unlike the PL clubs, both draw a lot of revenue from their stadiums. It has been 18 months since they have been able to use them properly. That dollar has gone and isn't coming back, whilst their debt interest has been racking up at the same time and at increasing rates. The issue this causes is that they are rumoured to be €150-€300m down since covid, whilst their debt payments have gone up. 

They both also cannot sell their way out of trouble as their players are unsellabable due to their contracts/form. 

On top of this their are rumours that a lot of Barca's commercial deals are tied to Messi and that they drop from anywhere from 10%-50% if he leaves, which looks like he may have to as they simply cannot register him unless the rest of the squad take 50%+ cuts to their wages.

Then we get to TV rights, even the PL had to take a bit of a hit on the 2023-26 set. La Liga's is meant to go down even more best of it due to its lesser audience. As for their international revenues a lot was tied (apparently) to the stars in the league such as CR7 and Messi. So, that is also coming to an end.

Then we get to how their government money has dried up due to EU legislation. That essentially saved Real in the early 00's as without their land deal with Madrid Council they essentially bankrupted themselves with the first Galatico set of spending.

Tbh, Real, I don't think are in as much trouble, however they have had to seriously reduce costs in the past five years. I think I read that they are something like the 30th net spender in Europe over the past five years, that is going to have to continue for the foreseeable. 

[Vesper 30,224]

14 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

Both Barca and Madrid are still having massive revenues, they are in top 3 richest clubs in the world alongside United. In 19/20 Barca had €715.1m and Madrid had €691.8m. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

As soon as Pessi fucks off, I predict at least a 25% drop in Barca revenue, especially if they do not sign Mbappe or Håland. Plastics need a god to toss off to or they move on.

[King Kante 1,643]

21 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

Both Barca and Madrid are still having massive revenues, they are in top 3 richest clubs in the world alongside United. In 19/20 Barca had €715.1m and Madrid had €691.8m. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deloitte_Football_Money_League

Wait, I have just realised something. Is Barca's turnover only €715m? There wage bill is approx €680m which is 95% and that is pre-covid. They're actually even more fecked than I thought they were as I thought their wage to turnover was 75%. 

95% wage to turnover is so ridiculous I cannot even find the right word to describe it.

I used to think they just hit the crack pipe too hard. Instead I now think they must party like the guys in Wolf of Wall Street but don't know anything about money at all. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

2 hours ago, King Kante said:

Wait, I have just realised something. Is Barca's turnover only €715m? There wage bill is approx €680m which is 95% and that is pre-covid. They're actually even more fecked than I thought they were as I thought their wage to turnover was 75%. 

95% wage to turnover is so ridiculous I cannot even find the right word to describe it.

I used to think they just hit the crack pipe too hard. Instead I now think they must party like the guys in Wolf of Wall Street but don't know anything about money at all. 

No, the €715 was during Covid, the previous season 18/19 (Pre-Covid) Barca got €840m.

Edited July 5, 2021 by Blues Forever

[Vesper 30,224]

1 hour ago, King Kante said:

I used to think they just hit the crack pipe too hard. Instead I now think they must party like the guys in Wolf of Wall Street but don't know anything about money at all. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

Sure. No bid has gone in from Chelsea. No significant movements have happened as of yet due to many factors, such as Chelsea behind the scenes weighing up their targets and financial capabilities, Haaland being on holiday, etc. A deal of this size takes a lot of time, patience and back and forth, especially when you remember which clubs and agents are involved.

—-S.Phillips 

[Jase 43,479]

44 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

No significant movements have happened as of yet due to many factors, such as Chelsea behind the scenes weighing up their targets and financial capabilities, Haaland being on holiday, etc.

Shouldn't we already know by now whether we are financially capable of signing Haaland this summer?

And what's starting negotiations with Dortmund gotta do with Haaland being on holiday? Would imagine we need to clear that hurdle first since Dortmund's stance is that Haaland is not for sale this summer.

47 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

A deal of this size takes a lot of time, patience and back and forth, especially when you remember which clubs and agents are involved.

True but the thing with it is the longer we take to try and start doing a deal, there's a higher chance that we might up hitting a wall, can't agree on a deal and end up panic buying. It has happened before with this club.

Maybe we might hear/see something in within the next week or two but so far, only one side of the media are making all the ("annoying") noises. 

[Special Juan 28,143]

So still all quiet then?

[DH1988 1,348]

According to UK papers, we are to test Dortmund's resolve with €175m.

Make of that what you will.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, DH1988 said:

According to UK papers, we are to test Dortmund's resolve with €175m.

Make of that what you will.

They quoted Fjortoft.

[Strike 7,494]

 

 

[Jype 6,398]

I don't see the club offering €175M to Dortmund. If it's true the club are preparing a 'big offer' it will still probably be only around €100-120M to test the waters.

We have to remember that Raiola (and Haaland's dad if reports are to be believed) will want a big fee too and it will not come out of Dortmund's share. If the offer is €175M to Dortmund alone then the whole deal including agents fees would be north of €200M easily and I just can't see the club paying that much for anyone.

[Jase 43,479]

14 minutes ago, Strike said:

 

 

I know they say Fjortoft is reliable when it comes to Haaland and while this is related to Haaland, this "story" about us preparing for a "big offer" is not something that comes from Haaland's camp. So, I don't know how believable that is (different case altogether if the usual Chelsea journalists start to report the same thing, although it's only at the "preparing" stage) and not to mention, he tweeted something very similar a month ago, only to then say there has been no contact, no development etc few weeks later. 

 

[whats happening 1,621]

13 minutes ago, Jype said:

I don't see the club offering €175M to Dortmund. If it's true the club are preparing a 'big offer' it will still probably be only around €100-120M to test the waters.

We have to remember that Raiola (and Haaland's dad if reports are to be believed) will want a big fee too and it will not come out of Dortmund's share. If the offer is €175M to Dortmund alone then the whole deal including agents fees would be north of €200M easily and I just can't see the club paying that much for anyone.

who the fuck is haalands dad that he needs to get paid too? 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

6 minutes ago, whats happening said:

who the fuck is haalands dad that he needs to get paid too? 

Haaland's official agent. Raiola is just an advisor.

Edited July 12, 2021 by Blues Forever