Syltherin 25 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 19 hours ago, milka said: mad pic Can we claim that we're Double Winner (soon treble with CWC on Dec) this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Syltherin said: Can we claim that we're Double Winner (soon treble with CWC on Dec) this year? fake treble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,280 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Tuchel or Mancini both deserves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I think Mancini should get it. Whilst Tuchel did a great great job, Mancini has overseen Italy winning the Euros when no one expected them to at all after previous shambles of not qualifying for the world cup, as well as masterminding something like a nearly 40 unbeaten run over the last few years, including that run being part of winning a major tournament. I get its manager of the year, so the 40 games run isnt exactly relevant but I do think Mancini’s achievements with Italy will still be hugely underrated and probably difficult to replicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: I think Mancini should get it. Whilst Tuchel did a great great job, Mancini has overseen Italy winning the Euros when no one expected them to at all after previous shambles of not qualifying for the world cup, as well as masterminding something like a nearly 40 unbeaten run over the last few years, including that run being part of winning a major tournament. I get its manager of the year, so the 40 games run isnt exactly relevant but I do think Mancini’s achievements with Italy will still be hugely underrated and probably difficult to replicate. Yes he did indeed do a great job but TT did a better one imo Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, Atomiswave said: Yes he did indeed do a great job but TT did a better one imo Either way it has to be Tuchel or Mancini. I think winning an international tournament is bigger though, just because they are less frequent so may swing it Mancini’s way. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Either way it has to be Tuchel or Mancini. I think winning an international tournament is bigger though, just because they are less frequent so may swing it Mancini’s way. Yeah you never know, either is fine by me though of course I rather TT. We were a horror show before TT, lots of pressure and lots of figuring out cuz he had no time to adjust.....and he got us 2 trophies in a dominant way. Nah I give to TT on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) I think Tuchel taking a squad that was falling down the table. A squad their manager had given up on them and said publicly the squad could not compete against top teams… then Tuchel changes everything. Believes in them, gets them believing in each other, and wins the most difficult trophy in Europe. Raises them from 9th to 4th with the second most wins in the PL since Tuchel took over. How many people seen us winning the CL this year when Lampard was throwing his players under the bus? Far fewer than those thinking Italy could win the Euros. I think Tuchel’s resume this year is more compelling. Edited August 22, 2021 by ZAPHOD2319 nachikethas and Atomiswave 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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milka 3,393 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 if Tuchel adds the Premier League title this season + CL after less than 2 years at the helm, he can be declared a god Liverpool v Chelsea next week is already an absolutely massive game in the title race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Big balls to drop Werner (although the writing was on the wall) v Arsenal as I expected many felt he would play off Lukaku but again, like most things Tuchel has done here it was the right call. It showed that we can be a pretty good attacking team without Werner using Lukaku, Mount, Havertz and the wingbacks, despite the fact many people believed he wouldn’t leave Werner out at all because he is a “key part of the team” or offers pace and movement. Honestly, whilst its only one game, I really get the impression Tuchel will use Werner like he does rotating between Kante, Kovacic and Jorginho depending on the opposition. Or if he ups his game something huge. The games v City and Liverpool for instance, or bigger European games where we might be a bit more pragmatic or play more on transitions, I would expect Werner to be used then. Against majority of the teams in the leagues I would expect 2 from Mount, Pulisic, Ziyech and Havertz playing off of Rom. We have a lot of flexibility though in attack now with Lukaku. We can play into his feet, he’s able to roll people, he will run the channels and ultimately in the box his movement is sharp. I know its 2 games in but I think now we will be definitely competing for the title, that has to be the goal. All of TT’s interviews talking about wanting more and not looking back on the CL is very promising and the sign of a winner also. Edited August 23, 2021 by OneMoSalah DH1988 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I think we will get some answers on Saturday against Liverpool, really looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Mana said: It's only 2 games in. It's too early to say we are in for a title challenge. I have yet to see what happens when Chelsea are a goal down. Do we falter or have the mentality to still win the game. There were many games last season that the former happened. How do we perform against good low-block teams. These questions still need to be answered before we can say we are in for a title challenge. We should have an idea early October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I think against an anticipated bus parking team Werner is not going to be as effective as a team that will play a high line. I doubt Werner will be out of the picture for long, but I think Tuchel is going to play his players in the games they have the best chance for success. I think he is going to rotate players as much as he can also. I wouldn't read too far into any selections yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Our squad is made for 2 games per week. That should be natural because we have such a good and big squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 22/08/2021 at 21:55, milka said: if Tuchel adds the Premier League title this season + CL after less than 2 years at the helm, he can be declared a god Liverpool v Chelsea next week is already an absolutely massive game in the title race. First part yes! 2nd part, it's not "an absolutey massive game in the title race" a big game yes and I can see us winning it, but any indication about who's going to win the league nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 What I like about him is even at full time, despite the circumstances and his praise of the team to the media, you can see he still wants more. And tactically, would say that again, another big game, another good showing. The second half, you can see the intensity and desire he’s instilled in the players to defend and be solid. I mean someone said tactically and as a coach in general he is better than Conte a while ago and I felt it was too early but I think he so far 3 games in this season (4 including the Super Cup) after a pre season which wasn’t necessarily easy due to the Euros, there are clear indications this team can go and win the league. Maybe getting excited but I just get the feeling that we can and will be right up there. Yesterday proved that. Sarri or Frank’s teams would of crumbled and conceded a second goal. Even Conte’s second season we probably lose that. Superblue, Alabama, bigbluewillie and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: What I like about him is even at full time, despite the circumstances and his praise of the team to the media, you can see he still wants more. And tactically, would say that again, another big game, another good showing. The second half, you can see the intensity and desire he’s instilled in the players to defend and be solid. I mean someone said tactically and as a coach in general he is better than Conte a while ago and I felt it was too early but I think he so far 3 games in this season (4 including the Super Cup) after a pre season which wasn’t necessarily easy due to the Euros, there are clear indications this team can go and win the league. Maybe getting excited but I just get the feeling that we can and will be right up there. Yesterday proved that. Sarri or Frank’s teams would of crumbled and conceded a second goal. Even Conte’s second season we probably lose that. Completely agree, yesterday just emphasised how solid and organised we are defensively both individually and as a unit. We are being coached phenomenally right now. We didn't even concede a "big chance" in that second half yesterday. Survived the initial onslaught with the home crowd baying and after the first 15 - 20 minutes of that second half Liverpool looked to have run out of ideas and on another day we might have nicked a smash and grab goal ourselves. There seems to be a real tough mentality about the group that Tuchel has instilled. It might not be the most exciting aspect, but our defensive strength is critical on building towards a title push. If the attacking boys, and in particular Lukaku, can get the goals this season we'll be right up there. It's starting to feel a little like the early Jose days where if we get a goal early it'll break teams spirit because they'll know how hard it is to get back into the game from there. bigbluewillie and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jap Si. 50 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: What I like about him is even at full time, despite the circumstances and his praise of the team to the media, you can see he still wants more. And tactically, would say that again, another big game, another good showing. The second half, you can see the intensity and desire he’s instilled in the players to defend and be solid. I mean someone said tactically and as a coach in general he is better than Conte a while ago and I felt it was too early but I think he so far 3 games in this season (4 including the Super Cup) after a pre season which wasn’t necessarily easy due to the Euros, there are clear indications this team can go and win the league. Maybe getting excited but I just get the feeling that we can and will be right up there. Yesterday proved that. Sarri or Frank’s teams would of crumbled and conceded a second goal. Even Conte’s second season we probably lose that. Man who scores against us you have his name are you Chelsea fan this is weirdness. He only play few times for Chelsea and that was years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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