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In 24 hours we could potentially be only 3 points ahead of West Ham. If Arsenal will their two games in hand, we will be only 2 points ahead of them. Matter of fact, if Spurs somehow win their 4 games in hand, they will be ahead of us by 2 points. 

Lot of hypotheticals but if we end the season with another battle for Top 4, where do we assess Tuchel in all of this considering there has been zero improvement and another chunk of money invested?

 

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36 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

In 24 hours we could potentially be only 3 points ahead of West Ham. If Arsenal will their two games in hand, we will be only 2 points ahead of them. Matter of fact, if Spurs somehow win their 4 games in hand, they will be ahead of us by 2 points. 

Lot of hypotheticals but if we end the season with another battle for Top 4, where do we assess Tuchel in all of this considering there has been zero improvement and another chunk of money invested?

 

Here we go again...and its hard cause like you say the table is all over the place. Can't look at our postion and say we're okay cause we've played more games then others. If we get drawn into another stupid top 4 battle after being top..urghhh

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5 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Here we go again...and its hard cause like you say the table is all over the place. Can't look at our postion and say we're okay cause we've played more games then others. If we get drawn into another stupid top 4 battle after being top..urghhh

I think getting drawn into another Top 4 battle, or worse even missing out, begs for some uncomfortable questions and a Tuchel assessment is well and truly warranted.

I said last June after our CL win that the jury is still out on Tuchel for me. Cup manager vibes. 

 

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44 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

In 24 hours we could potentially be only 3 points ahead of West Ham. If Arsenal will their two games in hand, we will be only 2 points ahead of them. Matter of fact, if Spurs somehow win their 4 games in hand, they will be ahead of us by 2 points. 

Lot of hypotheticals but if we end the season with another battle for Top 4, where do we assess Tuchel in all of this considering there has been zero improvement and another chunk of money invested?

Unless he keeps playing Lukaku unconditionally then no.

I saw more than enough pre the injury's to know a largely fully fit side under him can challenge.

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17 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I think getting drawn into another Top 4 battle, or worse even missing out, begs for some uncomfortable questions and a Tuchel assessment is well and truly warranted.

I said last June after our CL win that the jury is still out on Tuchel for me. Cup manager vibes. 

 

I could understand the issue if we got beaten by some relegation fodder team but it was Man City today and it doesn’t really change anything we didn’t already know as in they will win the league and are miles ahead of us and Liverpool. Why is it always just before or just always after big games depending on predicted result/the actual result people seem to kick up a fuss and question Tuchel? Not saying its solely down to you as everyone is entitled to their own opinion but there is a pattern, it happens almost every big game before or after.

A Tuchel assessment would be a bit extreme considering we are defending European champions, won the Super Cup, just got to another cup final on Wednesday and still have the Club World Cup and FA Cup games too. I mean what more do people want? We could finish the season 2nd or 3rd with potentially 3 trophies at least. Also we are comfortably much better than everyone else bar Liverpool and City so I wouldn’t expect it to come to being dragged into a top 4 race. 

Also this ‘cup manager’ notion is a bit silly when you look at it because we have more or less been more of a cup team now for the best part of 10 or 11 years. League Cups, FA Cups, CLs, ELs - all cup competitions. Not in a derogatory way obviously as trophies are trophies but we have won 2 PL titles in the last 10 years after the 3 in 6 years prior to 2010 under Jose and Carlo. 

 

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Tuchel comments about Lukaku weren't addressed to Lukaku, but to the board. Or both. It was something like : with what kind of footballer play as as my focal point?  Losses balls with or without pressure, can't pass, waists chances upfront. Plays bad, what team can do then?

Message to those that signed him.

Prepare some popcorns. Lukaku interview part two incoming. He will gain some more weight in the next month. 

He will play because he costed that much and because he is our top earner. If we want to sell him in the summer, he will play to increase his value, if he has any. Or to convince somebody to take him.

He won't play because Tuchel wants him to. Even games against bottom table teams will be our little finals because our top four place is in jeopardy.

Our entire attack is even worse with Lukaku '' I wave all the time and miss/ missplace every ball''  upfront. All our attackers got worse due to his presence upfront. Today, every cross, every ball is aimed at Lukaku and waisted because he is right behind defenders at the time. If we as a club continue to insist on playing him, we are out of CL place very soon.


 

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