The Tuchel Thread

[BlueLion. 21,491]

58 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Not concerned about Potter’s ability to coach. I am however concerned about his ability to command respect from this squad of entitled pricks having never managed at the top level.

 

Well said.

Potter is a fantastic coach and clearly a good motivator. He has established a fantastic footballing identity with Brighton and done stellar work with them. 

Coming here could be disastrous for him.

[nyikolajevics 2,596]

Shocking.. Especially considering that TB doesn’t do this at Dodger, Dave Roberts has been HC for 7 years even though some weak ass playoff performances.. 

 

Hope we will appoint some American master coach like Bob Bradley..

2 minutes ago, Milan said:

Laurent Blanc

You just cannot ignore that name 😂 Been linked with us so many times and still waiting in the line. It is gonna happen one day!

 

I remember few years ago Aurier was live streaming a Q&A on instagram or whatever and he called Blanc a pussy.. Never heard such true words.

 

Quite depressing.. Klopp and Guardiola were given plenty of time.. Last 1.5 season was success with TT, this season didn’t start well but not tragic either.. 

[Gundalf 804]

1 minute ago, milka said:

 

3 players with shit personality. Werner is as shit for Leipzig btw. 

I wish we sign Streich from Freiburg. His philosophy is that when signing a player, its not his footballing ability which should be criteria number 1, its personality. Character comes first, skill after. 

[Pizy 18,419]

See a lot of you here and lots on Twitter who are against Poch. Personally, I’d have either Poch or Potter without complaint.

I don’t hold Poch’s time at PSG against him a single bit just like I didn’t with Tuchel. Much like our own club, it doesn’t matter whether you’re a world class coach or not, you’ll eventually get on the wrong side of the hugely powerful players and get sacked. Nobody is going to succeed there longer than a few years. His Spuds team before it went totally stale were a machine. If he can replicate that here I wouldn’t mind.

Potter could be special and a stroke of genius IF these egomaniac players buy in. Will they listen to a coach from Brighton without a flashy CV?

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10 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Poch, Potter, Zidane, and?

Roger Schmidt from Benfica - Matt Law reported

[Superblue 6,372]

There's a lot of talk of Paul Mitchell being a front runner for the director of football role. If that were true, it would point to Poch being a strong candidate considering their time together at Spurs.

[Blues11 213]

I’ve been critical of TT but even this surprised me. I wish him well, wanted it to workout but it’s obvious he lost control and couldn’t garner a response out of the players. He’s burned bridges with management in his previous jobs and I guess that continues. Boehly surprised me with this one.

I think it was the right move, we’ve struggled for a long time and I personally think him guiding us through the sanctions was a tad bit overrated. 

[milka 3,356]

 

[Jype 6,398]

Would have expected him to be given time till at least a new DoF is appointed before getting the boot. Boehly and his band probably have no clue which manager to appoint that suits our current personnel.

In hindsight the writing's been on the wall since pre-season, and more specifically the Arsenal game. Not so much the performances in the pre-season games but the interviews Tuchel gave to the media, basically throwing a lot of players under the bus for not being committed both mentally and physically. The same kind of comments continued into the new season after almost every match, which indicated problems inside the dressing room.

What I don't get, however, is the timing of all this. Why was Tuchel being given lots of responsibility regarding transfer targets and player sales if the problems have been looming behind the scenes since pre-season? Now we have lots of players brought in for big money who may not even be good fits for the next manager. Aubameyang was brought in specifically to please Tuchel, while the likes of Werner, CHO, Gilmour were all let go because Tuchel didn't want to keep them. Now less than a week after the window is closed Tuchel is gone and the next manager might well have other ideas?

Player power at Chelsea FC strikes again. Even the ones who've previously played well under Tuchel's management seem to have turned shit overnight and it's not been a tactical issue either. It's fucking bullshit but nothing we can do about it really. Just hope whoever comes in can turn things around quickly because nothing's been lost yet and we have the quality to be better than the shite we've seen this season.

Potter would be my choice if he can be acquired. Could be willing to go for Pochettino or even Rodgers at a pinch if Potter is unavailable. Just need to stay clear of Zidane.

[Gundalf 804]

2 minutes ago, milka said:

 

BHA seemed to be very stubborn about the Cucurella deal. Im suprised they let us talk to him. 

Maybe they already know he will turn us down tho. 

Edited September 7, 2022 by Gundalf

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17 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

There will be no issue paying the 16M for Potter, it's a different story if he want's it or not. Me, I cannot see him leaving Brighton at all.

Why do you think so? First big job offer coming his way - I think he'll speak to the club.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,519]

Potter for me. He makes players better.

[Superblue 6,372]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

See a lot of you here and lots on Twitter who are against Poch. Personally, I’d have either Poch or Potter without complaint.

I don’t hold Poch’s time at PSG against him a single bit just like I didn’t with Tuchel. Much like our own club, it doesn’t matter whether you’re a world class coach or not, you’ll eventually get on the wrong side of the hugely powerful players and get sacked. Nobody is going to succeed there longer than a few years. His Spuds team before it went totally stale were a machine. If he can replicate that here I wouldn’t mind.

Potter could be special and a stroke of genius IF these egomaniac players buy in. Will they listen to a coach from Brighton without a flashy CV?

That Spurs team on paper was very strong (as mentioned every 5 minutes at the time by the media) and he won nothing with it. 2 cup finals that they were comprehensively outplayed and beaten in both and one second place finish where they didn't get close to catching us. For me, he had opportunities to kick them on and never did and that Spurs team got worse over time because his recruitment was rubbish.

I feel like he's someone who's had his chance now at the top table a couple of times and proven to not really be it. My hatred for all things Spurs probably soils my thoughts on him further I must admit, but I do believe he's overhyped.

He shouldn't be in the conversation of the likes of Zidane, Enrique, Flick, etc who are big name coaches that actually have a record of winning big trophies. If you're not going down that route, and you're looking at a 'project' manager for the long term I'd rather hang my hat on someone like Graham Potter and take my chances with that than I would with Poch. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

5 minutes ago, Jype said:

Would have expected him to be given time till at least a new DoF is appointed before getting the boot. Boehly and his band probably have no clue which manager to appoint that suits our current personnel.

In hindsight the writing's been on the wall since pre-season, and more specifically the Arsenal game. Not so much the performances in the pre-season games but the interviews Tuchel gave to the media, basically throwing a lot of players under the bus for not being committed both mentally and physically. The same kind of comments continued into the new season after almost every match, which indicated problems inside the dressing room.

What I don't get, however, is the timing of all this. Why was Tuchel being given lots of responsibility regarding transfer targets and player sales if the problems have been looming behind the scenes since pre-season? Now we have lots of players brought in for big money who may not even be good fits for the next manager. Aubameyang was brought in specifically to please Tuchel, while the likes of Werner, CHO, Gilmour were all let go because Tuchel didn't want to keep them. Now less than a week after the window is closed Tuchel is gone and the next manager might well have other ideas?

Player power at Chelsea FC strikes again. Even the ones who've previously played well under Tuchel's management seem to have turned shit overnight and it's not been a tactical issue either. It's fucking bullshit but nothing we can do about it really. Just hope whoever comes in can turn things around quickly because nothing's been lost yet and we have the quality to be better than the shite we've seen this season.

Potter would be my choice if he can be acquired. Could be willing to go for Pochettino or even Rodgers at a pinch if Potter is unavailable. Just need to stay clear of Zidane.

Wtf Rodgers??? 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,519]

Poch seems like the easiest appointment.

[Gundalf 804]

 

[chelsea_4_eva 1,160]

Opened instagram and this is the first thing I see, quite shocked it has come so fast tbh. But there was something definitely wrong, this is a team that almost knocked our RM last season with a 3 goal deficit. From that passion to this dire situation, something must be up.

 

Also with Potter he does play with 3ATB sometimes, so that would be helpful.

[Special Juan 27,439]

Contacts ongoing for Potter- Boehly on it according to Romano