closed Chelsea 1-1 Leicester

[OhForAGreavsie 6,060]

On 15/08/2019 at 1:45 PM, 1905didierblue said:

So all the official figures and numbers are wrong, right? Please see the above mentioned links.

As for travelling, are you serious? Do you even know how much travelling is involved in NBA. Stop showing ignorance. USA alone has as much area as the whole of Europe. 

Tennis tournaments literally shift countries with Monte Carlo open followed by Madrid followed by Rome followed by french open.

Football is not the only sport where players deal with travelling and burn out. It might not even be the sport which requires the most amount of travelling and energy expenditure. Given that it's the start of the season, burn out and fatigue should not be an issue, and thats the only point I am trying to make.

Am I right that most tennis players do not take part in both singles and doubles matches at non grand slam tournaments during the year? As a result only two players each week, usually different players from week to week, play the maximum possible number of games. Most of the players get most of the week off. Off from playing seriously competitive matches at any rate. What's more, no players play every tournament of the season. They all take breaks.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,060]

Anyway...

I think this is going to be a pivotal game for our season. We all enjoyed the performance against Liverpool but I think we have to acknowledge that they produced a fairly open display which gave us a chance to play our game. Largely speaking we took that chance well but I expect Leicester to try to close spaces a lot more than the Reds did. If we can overcome that and come up with another encouraging performance, along with the right result this time, I think the positivity will spread. If not, the doubts and the criticism will grow.

 

 

[kolovrat 20]

On 8/15/2019 at 7:14 AM, 1905didierblue said:

 

Lastly regarding viewership. 15.14M viewers watched the NBA finals (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals_television_ratings) far higher than any ucl final viewership (https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019/06/uefa-champions-league-final-viewership-univision-tnt/)

Last year, the Super Bowl drew a little over 100 million viewers, a dip from the 2018 Super Bowl. Meanwhile, the Champions League final between Liverpool and Real Madrid drew 480 million viewers worldwide. According to sources, only about 2 million of Champions League viewers were located in the United States, and the broadcast was available in more than 200 countries. By comparison, the Super Bowl is available in 180 countries, and anywhere from 30 million to 50 million viewers outside the U.S. watch. That number is not particularly likely to increase, even when considering the NFL’s recent marketing pushes in the U.K. and Mexico.

https://www.one37pm.com/strength/sports/champions-league-soccer-super-bowl

 

[NikkiCFC 8,294]

We didn't score last season against them. Or in three of last four games. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

27 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

We didn't score last season against them. Or in three of last four games. 

We still have only scored once from open play in 210 mins of football. Goals will be our problem this season on both ends.

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

12 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Actually quite excited to see how Willian does in this team. He has a chance to be our key player in the final third. Never ever thought I would say this 😂 

[1905didierblue 748]

6 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Am I right that most tennis players do not take part in both singles and doubles matches at non grand slam tournaments during the year? As a result only two players each week, usually different players from week to week, play the maximum possible number of games. Most of the players get most of the week off. Off from playing seriously competitive matches at any rate. What's more, no players play every tournament of the season. They all take breaks.

Yes, most of the top ranked players don't play doubles because those are the ones playing in the semis and finals of most of the tournament. Irrespective, players at the top of the game play upwards of 60 even 70 games. For example Federer has a best season win ratio of 81-4 (2005), 92-5 (2006) or djokovic 82-6 (2016). These are numbers of games is high 80s or 90s. 

As for breaks, I am sorry but thats just incorrect. Old players like Federer, Nadal, djoko have NOW started a bit of load management. Because they can, the tournaments they play they usually end up winning. But for the world no. 50s, there is no margin of error. From world no.5-20 they are all normally in contention for the year end finals, so they do play each of the tournaments that they can. And sometimes even an extra to get that boost in ranking points. But as far as the 10 masters 1000s, 4 grand slams are concerned, I don't think any player takes off from them. Add 500s and 250s, and you have a jam packed schedule.

Also, point was not to put down footballers. Just saying that sportsman across the world are facing these issues. Some have to travel far more than footballers can imagine (NBA players), some are part of the most mentally and physically gruelling sport (tennis- mentally because of the nature of the sport. Players here are all alone, can't rely on their teamates till they get into their own purple patch). 

[MoroccanBlue 5,378]

13 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Actually quite excited to see how Willian does in this team. He has a chance to be our key player in the final third. Never ever thought I would say this 😂 

For a bloke that’s averaged 5 league goals a season, that is an incredibly bold statement. 

Care to explain? 

[communicate 2,703]

20 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Thanks DB,

This is really interesting. Do you know what the comparative stats are for the mileage covered by basketball players over the course of a game? Whatever the mileage comparison, I wonder if that really answers the question of who works harder. An example of what I mean:-

When I was reffing, especially in the early days doing park football, I would easily out run any of the players on the pitch. I would often have a jokey conversation with players about how they were struggling to keep up with me, when I should have been struggling to keep up with them. Yet, when I played, I'd be blowing hard after 20 minutes. My point is that it's not just about the miles that you run when you play football. As a referee I could judge the run that I needed to make. I could judge whether I needed to extend it, sprint it out or just jog. As a player, you're not in that much control. You can be called on to do three peak sprints in succession followed by big physical confrontations when you get there. I promise you it's harder to run half as many miles when you're playing than it is to cover twice as many when you're reffing.

I wonder if we can ever gauge the amount of work done by a footballer in comparison to that done by basketball player? I'm sure calorific expenditure has been measured in both cases but is that enough information to make a judgement?

P.S. The first result I found on Google suggests an average NBA mileage per player, per game of about 2.6 miles and claims that this is roughly one third the average distance for a footballer. My guess is that the physical strain on a footballer is also tougher because of the nature of the sport. That said, I more or less only played basketball at school, so I'm ready to be corrected on this.

 

 

 

If you have ever played somewhat competitive football and basketball you will know the difference. Forget everything, start with the fact that you can sub in and sub out in basketball and they only play 48 minutes that are divided by 4 plus timeout.

 

[Starman60 1,343]

Oh sorry.....I must be on the wrong site. I thought this was the Chelsea v Leicester thread???? But it looks more like like an advert for Eurosport Guys, we've played ONE league game and ONE Super cup game and we have a large squad... What the f@ck are we talking about "tiredness" after 2 games???? These are professionals who are payed to do this week in, and week out.

Oh and we will record a win against Leicester for the record. Wouldn't mind seeing Bats given a start, just to see what he offers us up front.

[Last Sicarius 610]

For me we should play:
Kepa
Azpi(James is not fit  ) - Tomori - Christensen - Emerson
Jorginho - Kante - Mount
Pedro - Tammy - Pulisic
Clean sheet  will be good but i dont expect it. 3-1

[Tomo 21,751]

On 16/08/2019 at 8:52 PM, OhForAGreavsie said:

Anyway...

I think this is going to be a pivotal game for our season. We all enjoyed the performance against Liverpool but I think we have to acknowledge that they produced a fairly open display which gave us a chance to play our game. Largely speaking we took that chance well but I expect Leicester to try to close spaces a lot more than the Reds did. If we can overcome that and come up with another encouraging performance, along with the right result this time, I think the positivity will spread. If not, the doubts and the criticism will grow.

I don't think we will see as much sitting back from Leicester this year as we did in this fixture last, Brendan has made it very clear throughout his career that men behind the ball and low block isn't how he operates.

I won't be too disheartened if Leicester nick a result, they are a very tough team and even the two best teams in the land struggled at home to them last time (City needing a 1/1000 strike from a defender to win and Liverpool actually dropping points). I think a better idea of where our top 4 chances lie will be the two games after against Norwich and Sheffield, we flattrack bullied our way to 3rd last season with 53 points out of a possible 60 against the bottom half sides (more than City) and if we are to retain top four i feel we need a similar return against the lesser light's again.

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5 hours ago, Tomo said:

I don't think we will see as much sitting back from Leicester this year as we did in this fixture last, Brendan has made it very clear throughout his career that men behind the ball and low block isn't how he operates.

I won't be too disheartened if Leicester nick a result, they are a very tough team and even the two best teams in the land struggled at home to them last time (City needing a 1/1000 strike from a defender to win and Liverpool actually dropping points). I think a better idea of where our top 4 chances lie will be the two games after against Norwich and Sheffield, we flattrack bullied our way to 3rd last season with 53 points out of a possible 60 against the bottom half sides (more than City) and if we are to retain top four i feel we need a similar return against the lesser light's again.

And I think we will be more competitive against the bigger sides. United aside

[OhForAGreavsie 6,060]

6 hours ago, Tomo said:

I don't think we will see as much sitting back from Leicester this year as we did in this fixture last, Brendan has made it very clear throughout his career that men behind the ball and low block isn't how he operates.

I won't be too disheartened if Leicester nick a result, they are a very tough team and even the two best teams in the land struggled at home to them last time (City needing a 1/1000 strike from a defender to win and Liverpool actually dropping points). I think a better idea of where our top 4 chances lie will be the two games after against Norwich and Sheffield, we flattrack bullied our way to 3rd last season with 53 points out of a possible 60 against the bottom half sides (more than City) and if we are to retain top four i feel we need a similar return against the lesser light's again.

I'm not feeling negative about our prospects. It's just that I think the Liverpool game was not a good barometer for gauging the shape we're in. There were definitely things to like; Pulli's speed of thought, quickness of movement and accuracy of execution in setting up the first goal for example. From the moment I saw their team sheet however, I felt we could play against that Liverpool line-up. So much so in fact that I was convinced Kova was going to score at last. That didn't work out but we did manage to play our game. How we do against Leicester will be a better indicator I think.

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

Let's hope for a much better result this time around, it was a very good performance against the victims, but we definitely need to keep things tight at the back and convert our chances when they come. The signs are good, we just need to keep improving. Cheers