Super Frank Thread

[Azul 1,615]

I have to post this again. Lampards win ratio at this club is 48%, the only man who has done worse is Hiddink. Think about it. Even Sarri did better with Luiz, Rudiger etc.

This season we haven't won a Premier league against a top 10 side, that's another stat for you guys.

[killer1257 3,282]

But here's the thing, what happens if Ziyech comes back and has an off day, like against Spurs recently? Then what? 
Also considering how injury prone Pulisic is and the fact that people keep making fun of it, it's ironic to then see people are seeing him as our savior. Plus, FML if we become a one man team with Ziyech again!

Son and Kane also had an off day too. Mane and Salah also once in a while have off days. I expect for us that one day, Pulisic gets back to his last seasons form and then we have two top class players in our team. If Ziyech has an off day, we still have Pulisic to create something.

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[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Just now, killer1257 said:

 

 

Son and Kane also had an off day too. Mane and Salah also once in a while have off days. I expect for us that one day, Pulisic gets back to his last seasons form and then we have two top class players in our team. If Ziyech has an off day, we still have Pulisic to create something.

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The issue is that we have a manager who is relying on individual talent to see him through when he has an abundance of talent in the team. 

I want Tammy back in the starting XI. All of the fluidity vanished the moment Giroud came back. 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Son and Kane also had an off day too. Mane and Salah also once in a while have off days. I expect for us that one day, Pulisic gets back to his last seasons form and then we have two top class players in our team. If Ziyech has an off day, we still have Pulisic to create something.

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You're putting a lot of hope on Pulisic to stay fit all of a sudden...

[Azul 1,615]

You're putting a lot of hope on Pulisic to stay fit all of a sudden...

Last year people gave the players the blame for the results. Now that Lampard has the backing and he spent over 200m on unbelievable players, the players still get the blame for the performances.

"It's the players fault", is an excuse that has been used and recycled last season. I refuse to believe it's Ziyech's injury or Pulisics or whatever it is. Any decent manager with this squad would destroy Everton and Wolves who've been in dreadful form.

It's the same signs of last season by the way, we face a team who's in horrible form and we gift them points smh.

[killer1257 3,282]

The issue is that we have a manager who is relying on individual talent to see him through when he has an abundance of talent in the team. 
I want Tammy back in the starting XI. All of the fluidity vanished the moment Giroud came back. 

If we want to be title contenders, we need to have the right amount of individual quality. Liverpool would never won PL nor CL without Salah or Mane. That is a fact. Man City would never won the title without KDB and Aguero two seasons ago and their whole squad is far better than ours.

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[killer1257 3,282]

You're putting a lot of hope on Pulisic to stay fit all of a sudden...

If he can't solve his injury problems, we need to buy a new winger because I don't see right now a winger in our youth set up that has the potential to make us better.

But I still have hope that one day, he might fix his injury problem for at least a longer period of time

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[Fernando 6,585]

14 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

The issue is that we have a manager who is relying on individual talent to see him through when he has an abundance of talent in the team. 

I want Tammy back in the starting XI. All of the fluidity vanished the moment Giroud came back. 

Giroud earned his start. Now he can go back to the bench to be a sub. 

Tammy had a good rest and now he can return to the lineup. 

 

[Fernando 6,585]

1 hour ago, Alabama said:

Even at that we will challenge or be closer to the very top...not Frank fault Jorginho doesnt fit our style of play...Unlucky due to injuries as well hoping Pulisic Werner and Ziyech becomes our starting front 3 now on and in the long term....

Jorginho needs to be sold and get a replacement. Also worried about Kante not having a proper back up. 

Still need Rice as there is no rest for this man. 

[Alabama 1,992]

10 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Jorginho needs to be sold and get a replacement. Also worried about Kante not having a proper back up. 

Still need Rice as there is no rest for this man. 

That's my fear...

Hopefully we try this coming January...

[Jase 43,479]

22 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Giroud earned his start. Now he can go back to the bench to be a sub. 

Tammy had a good rest and now he can return to the lineup. 

You forgot to mention that Lampard is seemingly playing Giroud to persuade him to stay in January, even at the cost of causing tactical imbalance to the side. 

[Puliiszola 519]

44 minutes ago, Azul said:

Keep supporting a man who's win ratio at this club is 48%, the only man with a lower win ratio at this club is Hiddink. He is doing worse than Every other Chelsea manager bar Hiddink, so I am keeping the same energy while you want to give him time knowing our season is going to be fucked. I'm not going into hiding even if we win our next 5 games by the way. The only time I'll truly trust in Frank is when we're comfortably sitting in top 3, at the end of the season.

Spoken like a true plastic. "I will support only if my team is comfortable" Well played sir. Also, which of our manager in the history had to deal with a transfer ban? Which if a manager in our history had to deal with a transfer ban as well as having the best player in the team as well as the league leave the team and unable to replace him? Please enlighten me.

47 minutes ago, Azul said:

Don't look at the rest of the league, Liverpool have so many injuries and Spurs is a team that finished 6th last season. We should be doing much much better, but ok we'll wait and see I guess. It's hard to convince fan boys like you who call people that criticise Frank plastic. Even though I judge him as a manager and not the legendary player.

LOL, liverpool lost 7-2 to ASTON FUCKING VILLA with VVD and no injuries. Things dont happen in a vaccum. Its no longer a top 4 elite tier team in PL and then a massive dearth of talent and money for the rest of the 16. Most of the PL teams has a higher net spend and market value than the 5-6th placed teams in spain, germany, italy or france. And thats the difference. Things dont happen in a vaccum. Liverpool, CIty, united each of them is struggling with one thing or another. Liverpool because their manager played jota in a meaning less game and refused to rotate, city because their world class player KDB has lost form, United are out of CL and somehow just clinging on in the league. Arsenal are fucked. Things are not just black and white. 

Lol, you can critisize FL as much as you want, I do it too. The point is, if he wins the next 5 games, you would still not believe in him. Infact you want him to fail as he has not given you instant gratification and that is what makes you a PLASTIC. You are like those liverpool fans crying for Klopp's head in his first 2 years and now think he is the 2nd coming of jesus. Frankly, Pathetic.

[Azul 1,615]

LOL, liverpool lost 7-2 to ASTON FUCKING VILLA with VVD and no injuries. Things dont happen in a vaccum. Its no longer a top 4 elite tier team in PL and then a massive dearth of talent and money for the rest of the 16. Most of the PL teams has a higher net spend and market value than the 5-6th placed teams in spain, germany, italy or france. And thats the difference. Things dont happen in a vaccum. Liverpool, CIty, united each of them is struggling with one thing or another. Liverpool because their manager played jota in a meaning less game and refused to rotate, city because their world class player KDB has lost form, United are out of CL and somehow just clinging on in the league. Arsenal are fucked. Things are not just black and white.  Lol, you can critisize FL as much as you want, I do it too. The point is, if he wins the next 5 games, you would still not believe in him. Infact you want him to fail as he has not given you instant gratification and that is what makes you a PLASTIC. You are like those liverpool fans crying for Klopp's head in his first 2 years and now think he is the 2nd coming of jesus. Frankly, Pathetic. 

 

I bet you started supporting Chelsea after Abramovich bought the club and you're calling me plastic? There is a difference between supporting your club and supporting your manager, get it through your thick skull.  

 

You know what though, keep the same energy in 2 months. Assuming I don't want the club to win just because I don't see Lampard as a manager who's not good enough. This is how low iq some Chelsea fans can be smh.

 

 

 

 

 

[killer1257 3,282]

So[mention=4712]Jason[/mention] said that Ziyech and Pulisic played one match together in CL and no PL matches together.

So do people here believe that Spurs would be where they are now in the table if Son and Kane played zero PL matches together? Do people here believe that Liverpool would be in their current position if Mane and Salah played zero matches together in PL ? Because I don't think so.

 

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[Jase 43,479]

15 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

So[mention=4712]Jason[/mention] said that Ziyech and Pulisic played one match together in CL and no PL matches together.

So do people here believe that Spurs would be where they are now in the table if Son and Kane played zero PL matches together? Do people here believe that Liverpool would be in their current position if Mane and Salah played zero matches together in PL ? Because I don't think so.

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What I would say is, until we see Pulisic and Ziyech play together and actually be the difference makers or saviors that people are making them out to be, we do not know it is guarantee that they will lead us to the top of the table. It is not like we have not had chances to go top of table or not win games without one or both of them. 

Also, Son and Kane have been at Spurs together for years but this is the first time they are really up there. What's the difference between then and now? They have a title winning manager at the helm now. They have someone who has seen it and done it all. Should also add that Son and Kane have been outperforming their xGs by A LOT this season, which suggests whatever they are doing now may well be unsustainable for the whole of the season.