Super Frank Thread

[Tomo 21,751]

12 hours ago, DDA said:

You see Ole G Solskjaers success is secretly down to the fella who was Alex Ferguson's number 2. That man is a G. When he goes, watch Solskjaers managing career be exposed. He also has a ridiculous squad in comparison to ours, wether they like to admit it or not. Pogba and Fernandes on paper are better than any offensive midfielders we have. That's including Kova. Maguire for all the stick he gets is a decent defender, not World Class but better than the dross we have. Then you look at their 'youth'.... I'm starting to think ours has been massively overrated by the media. For me Odoi if fully fit and functional could still go on to become World Class but Rashford and Greenwood are miles ahead of anyone else... yes Greenwood too. That young lad is making Bambi look soo bad. Frank needs reinforcements yes but he also needs to tweak his backroom staff as some have mentioned. I would love to see Terry come in and work on our defence. I'm not saying he is a miracle worker and would fix it over night, if at all because it isn't just bad players, it's the system and how we transition..

Terry is currently overseeing the worst defense in the league.

Funny you mention Rashford because he required years of patience to get to this point.

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Makes me miss Sarri's post match pressers when he threw those twats under the bus and rightfully so. 

A period of consistency is apparently too much to ask for our players. 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Terry is currently overseeing the worst defense in the league.

Funny you mention Rashford because he required years of patience to get to this point.

Tbf I think Rashford showed plenty under van Gaal and even Mourinho playing from a wider position that our guys haven’t in terms of affecting games. In the same way Sterling did for Liverpool. Okay his final ball is maybe more consistent/better and his finishing is better now but hes more experienced. In my eyes, his general play was always good at United and he wasn't exactly inconsistent bar his finishing and final pass but with young attacking players those things are to be expected regardless of their talent. The other aspects of his game were always there and clear to see, his pace, his willingness to take players on, to always be positive, they were there when he started playing and are still there now. Now he has obviously been shifted back into a more central position where he was originally started under Van Gaal to greater effect. 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Special Juan 28,096]

Like I have said, it's spaghetti junction selection and that is where the consistency issues come from

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Personally, I just think they aren't good enough. 

Cautious possession protected them last season. 

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Personally, I just think they aren't good enough. 
Cautious possession protected them last season. 

Plus the midfield of Kante and kovacic either side of jorginho protected the cbs when we didn't have possession

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[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

That being said, we need to continue with the same back line until the rest of the season. Maybe rest Dave for Alonso against Norwich.

Play a back 5 against Wolves 

[ZaynChelsea 423]

Now you lot are ofc turning on Lamps again. He made mistakes but he doesn‘t strike me as someone being stubborn or toxic when we lose. Arteta, Mourinho, Solskjaer haven‘t really Hit the ground running either. Give him a chance - Frank has a concept and has made very promising signings so far. Klopp wouldn‘t have fixed the defence without VVD either.

To the haters: Who do you want to bring in for him? Conte as an experienced manager who is toxic af and chased away our best striker since Drogba? F**k off! Or another decoraed youngster like AVB? Destroying our current concept? 

Get a grip ffs.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

3 minutes ago, ZaynChelsea said:

Now you lot are ofc turning on Lamps again. He made mistakes but he doesn‘t strike me as someone being stubborn or toxic when we lose. Arteta, Mourinho, Solskjaer haven‘t really Hit the ground running either. Give him a chance - Frank has a concept and has made very promising signings so far. Klopp wouldn‘t have fixed the defence without VVD either.

To the haters: Who do you want to bring in for him? Conte as an experienced manager who is toxic af and chased away our best striker since Drogba? F**k off! Or another decoraed youngster like AVB? Destroying our current concept? 

Get a grip ffs.

I agree. We have to allow Lamps some leeway here. He lost our by far best player. Our best players like Azpi, Willian (yes sadly) are all a year older or often coming from a bad injury like Rüdiger, RLC. still he managed to integrate a couple of (more or less talented) youngsters, had a fucking transfer ban, got extensions of CHO, Tomori, Mount, pitched Werner and Ziyech to come here and on top of that managed to get us almost as many points as we had last season. He has his mistakes which are particularly annoying but I think he has at least fulfilled expectations (mine was 6th place) given his mammoth task. Nothing but respect for how he handled it characterwise with serenity and professionalism. He is not the finished article as a manager and neither we are as team.

[NikkiCFC 8,285]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Azpi Zouma Rudiger Alonso played just two games? 

Liverpool and Everton back to back wins before the break. And two clean sheets.

Wonder why Lampard did not continue with them...

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

53 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Azpi Zouma Rudiger Alonso played just two games? 

Liverpool and Everton back to back wins before the break. And two clean sheets.

Wonder why Lampard did not continue with them...

He seems to have an instinctive thing for changing the team. Particularly to get Reece in at RB and moving Azpi over, which has happened a lot. Or changing the MF to get Kante in. 

[Superblue 6,372]

I feel in the latter period of this season, when fit, Lampard seemed to be settling on a partnership of Rudiger and Christensen and they did seem to be playing quite regularly together. Whether this is the best partnership of course is debatable.

The problem is neither have repaid that. Both have been culpable for errors and goals conceded.

I completely agree on the notion that you should have a settled back four or at least two or three in the defence playing regularly in the same position but the players we currently have aren't justifying that.

I saw enough from Tomori earlier in the season to believe there is quite a bit of potential there and some real solid attributes to his game. I think with a real good leader alongside him he should be the one to try and move forward with if he is or can get back fit. The problem currently however is none of the other three centre backs are stepping up to be a leader in that defence, likely because they are far too worried about their own game and deficiencies.

[Blue Armour 4,436]

Whatever Lampard does to try and remedy the defense, I hope he realizes that chopping and changing the lineup for the sake of it, is not the solution.

You'll risk alienating yourself from the players and it's all downhill from there, usually, once that happens.

[Jase 43,479]