The Conte Thread

[Unionjack 7,531]

19 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Pedro behind Remy and Remy looks to be liking it.

Be about as much as we see of Pedro me thinks.

[The Chels 2,502]

8 hours ago, Clevemayer said:

Spoiler

 

We both r here a long time and the forum Engine was switched a few Times i cant find Our direct conversations  but Look at first page of Oscar topic After he was Signed someone quoted you albeit not a forum quote saying winger is his natural pos Me and others have been on the other sie after a while the time we knew more Abt him

Then you said he  is better as mata in 2012 when mata was on fire and he was on the wings back then dropping into #10 now and then

 

 

Then before you said Oscar is going to be Our Main Player very soon

You compared him to two wingers

After benitez you thought Oscar was overrated 

Then he is Our Best Player and you predicted it

Then you Switched to the idea of him being natural #10

 

Like i said you r controversial but i value your Input. Problem for me now is your posts dont quote all ppl your answering to, but i Do it the same way. And i always during that convos was on the other sie so I received the bashing too :-) ;-) 

 

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I'm just hoping we give this dude time to build his philosophy and instill Chelsea with an identity. This is the time to do it! He WILL bring through the youth(vital given the transfer market) He WILL have us playing beautiful football, and he will return Chelsea to the summit... given time. 

I just hope Roman understands Rome wasn't built in one day(pun intended)

[Unionjack 7,531]

4 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

I'm just hoping we give this dude time to build his philosophy and instill Chelsea with an identity. This is the time to do it! He WILL bring through the youth(vital given the transfer market) He WILL have us playing beautiful football, and he will return Chelsea to the summit... given time. 

I just hope Roman understands Rome wasn't built in one day(pun intended)

I agree mate but I'm afraid going by our not too distant history I dont hold much faith in it.

I'm fulle emersed in the project and with some proper defenders it should be the bollox but the thing is what does Roman ad Buck consider as successful?

Will they say 6th is a big jump, top 4, FA or League cup?

And say we make top 4 and in CL again. Will they EXPECT silverware next year? Will they sack him if not? Even if he has integrated youth into the 1st team and playing regular?

We have sacked managers for a fuckin lot less.

Look at Carlo. Does the double his 1st season - sacked the next. AVB given boot after what, 3/4 months?  Mou coimes back wins league - club goes tits up in every direction but rightly or wrongly Mou gets the royal shaft. If I had been Roman I'd have kept things chilled, take Mou away for coupe of days to get on the same page and say what the fuck can we do to cear this shit up. But he throws his toys out the pram and listens to the changing room/Emenalo and al and makes him the easy option to save face.

I understrand  results/silverware is the only thing that keeps Roman happy but imagine if we was NORMALLY a mid table team. How much easier it would be. They would be extatic to see the project working and the team progressing each season over a couple of years then to be fighting both home and Europe. We keep doing what we are doing we wont achieve fuck all. We need to usae Conte like that North London club used Vinegar tits. Build the club into having its own character so when the time does come that the manager needs replacing we can hire one to fit Chelseas character and not change us to suit ervery new maager. Talk about MPD! (Multiple Personality Disorder) .

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

I agree mate but I'm afraid going by our not too distant history I dont hold much faith in it.

I'm fulle emersed in the project and with some proper defenders it should be the bollox but the thing is what does Roman ad Buck consider as successful?

Will they say 6th is a big jump, top 4, FA or League cup?

And say we make top 4 and in CL again. Will they EXPECT silverware next year? Will they sack him if not? Even if he has integrated youth into the 1st team and playing regular?

We have sacked managers for a fuckin lot less.

Look at Carlo. Does the double his 1st season - sacked the next. AVB given boot after what, 3/4 months?  Mou coimes back wins league - club goes tits up in every direction but rightly or wrongly Mou gets the royal shaft. If I had been Roman I'd have kept things chilled, take Mou away for coupe of days to get on the same page and say what the fuck can we do to cear this shit up. But he throws his toys out the pram and listens to the changing room/Emenalo and al and makes him the easy option to save face.

I understrand  results/silverware is the only thing that keeps Roman happy but imagine if we was NORMALLY a mid table team. How much easier it would be. They would be extatic to see the project working and the team progressing each season over a couple of years then to be fighting both home and Europe. We keep doing what we are doing we wont achieve fuck all. We need to usae Conte like that North London club used Vinegar tits. Build the club into having its own character so when the time does come that the manager needs replacing we can hire one to fit Chelseas character and not change us to suit ervery new maager. Talk about MPD! (Multiple Personality Disorder) .

Please don't shoot me mate, I sort of agree with Roman's every manager sackings except Carlo's.

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 minute ago, Ryan Fong said:

Please don't shoot me mate, I sort of agree with Roman's every manager sackings except Carlo's.

I dont mind mate. Theres been reasons to sack or keep all of them but if we dont start giving 1 a good chance, put full faith in him and back him to the hilt then its going to be an ever revolving managers door.

I understand that in this day and age theres not many managers (or players) that stay with one club like Fergi/Vinegar tits/JT but wouldn't it be good to get one to stay 3 years?

[Fernando 6,453]

1 hour ago, Unionjack said:

I agree mate but I'm afraid going by our not too distant history I dont hold much faith in it.

I'm fulle emersed in the project and with some proper defenders it should be the bollox but the thing is what does Roman ad Buck consider as successful?

Will they say 6th is a big jump, top 4, FA or League cup?

And say we make top 4 and in CL again. Will they EXPECT silverware next year? Will they sack him if not? Even if he has integrated youth into the 1st team and playing regular?

We have sacked managers for a fuckin lot less.

Look at Carlo. Does the double his 1st season - sacked the next. AVB given boot after what, 3/4 months?  Mou coimes back wins league - club goes tits up in every direction but rightly or wrongly Mou gets the royal shaft. If I had been Roman I'd have kept things chilled, take Mou away for coupe of days to get on the same page and say what the fuck can we do to cear this shit up. But he throws his toys out the pram and listens to the changing room/Emenalo and al and makes him the easy option to save face.

I understrand  results/silverware is the only thing that keeps Roman happy but imagine if we was NORMALLY a mid table team. How much easier it would be. They would be extatic to see the project working and the team progressing each season over a couple of years then to be fighting both home and Europe. We keep doing what we are doing we wont achieve fuck all. We need to usae Conte like that North London club used Vinegar tits. Build the club into having its own character so when the time does come that the manager needs replacing we can hire one to fit Chelseas character and not change us to suit ervery new maager. Talk about MPD! (Multiple Personality Disorder) .

Different times as well. A couple of years back we has the money and squad to dominate. 

Now they will be more lax because Chelsea ain't the big boy anymore blowing everyone away. 

I do think he will be here at least 3 years and that's a lot. 

[Tomo 21,733]

1 hour ago, Unionjack said:

I agree mate but I'm afraid going by our not too distant history I dont hold much faith in it.

I'm fulle emersed in the project and with some proper defenders it should be the bollox but the thing is what does Roman ad Buck consider as successful?

Will they say 6th is a big jump, top 4, FA or League cup?

And say we make top 4 and in CL again. Will they EXPECT silverware next year? Will they sack him if not? Even if he has integrated youth into the 1st team and playing regular?

We have sacked managers for a fuckin lot less.

Look at Carlo. Does the double his 1st season - sacked the next. AVB given boot after what, 3/4 months?  Mou coimes back wins league - club goes tits up in every direction but rightly or wrongly Mou gets the royal shaft. If I had been Roman I'd have kept things chilled, take Mou away for coupe of days to get on the same page and say what the fuck can we do to cear this shit up. But he throws his toys out the pram and listens to the changing room/Emenalo and al and makes him the easy option to save face.

I understrand  results/silverware is the only thing that keeps Roman happy but imagine if we was NORMALLY a mid table team. How much easier it would be. They would be extatic to see the project working and the team progressing each season over a couple of years then to be fighting both home and Europe. We keep doing what we are doing we wont achieve fuck all. We need to usae Conte like that North London club used Vinegar tits. Build the club into having its own character so when the time does come that the manager needs replacing we can hire one to fit Chelseas character and not change us to suit ervery new maager. Talk about MPD! (Multiple Personality Disorder) .

How do you know he didn't do that? Word was they initially considered sacking Mourinho after the Saints game, but his track record gave him the extra 3 months to sort it out, he was given multiple chances to turn the rubbish around and didn't, one point of relegation at Christmas with only one player on form is a sackable offense whoever you are, even Fergie would have been sweating for his job under those circumstances.

I am fully in the belief that this Roman itchy trigger things is overstated, if anything it shows his weak spot for appointing the right man, which I think/hope is different this time. All his sackings went beyond mere failure to win a trophy.

Ranieri wasn't his choice, not a problem when it comes to Conte.

Jose mark one, he was starting to fall out with the board, both Roman and Jose were in the early stages of their paths as owner and manager, so both thought they knew it all, the best thing for both parties at that time was to part company. That's a situation that could happen with Antonio, but if it happens three years and two titles later like with Jose, then we have had a good innings with him.

Avram was never going to be long term, it was quite evident Steve Clarke was the man incharge.

Scolari, couldn't adapt to the English and European game, had some of our best ever players in our prime fighting for 4th, players were unfit, had to go, can't see that being a problem with Antonio.

Ancelotti, predictable tactics and formations, kept repeating the same mistakes again and again and again, his idea of pragmatism was swapping one of Anelka and Kalou for the other after the hour, 71 points doesn't get top four a lot of the time, and the way we stagnated and fell off a cliff that season still haunts us to this day, apart from the first six months of 14/15, we haven't looked a top class team since and a lot of it goes back to that season. Can you see Conte getting outsmarted by the likes of Kenny Dalglish, Mick McCarthy and Steve Bruce? I can't. He pleasantly surprised me with the double (although even that season things weren't all garden and roses), but the second season was horrific, the only difference between that season and season just gone is those players had the sheer mentality and character to churn out many results we quite frankly didn't deserve.

AVB, all he had to do was finish top four and show some positive signs for the future, he achieved neither. RDM got a chance based on Munich but after a decent start we ended up looking like a more expensive version of his WBA team. Already been there with Jose mark two.

Putting an scenario for argument sake, this season finish 3rd with say 80 points, and the next we finish 2nd on 87 points but narrowly lose out to Pep's City who get 90, make a strong performance in Europe but narrowly miss out in semi,  with improvement made both season's in terms of playing style and youth integration, can I imagine Roman ripping everything up to appoint a manager who might not work? no I can't, he probably won't be happy per se that we won nothing, but I seriously can't see him being sacked in that hypothetical circumstance I just created and if he did, then no we haven't sacked managers for much less, it would be by some distance the most mindboggling sacking of the Roman era and would eclipse even Real Madrid for lunacy.

 

[The Chels 2,502]

Shots fired.

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Courtois: "Conte works hard on physical and tactical aspects, more than other managers do."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZXhOqlYDwc

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Matic: "The manager played football at a very high level and it helps him to know things, to understand us and to show us on the pitch what we can do better, how we can improve."

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/nemanja-matic-chelsea-coach-antonio-contes-words-gave-me-a-special-feeling-a3307551.html

 

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

I dont mind mate. Theres been reasons to sack or keep all of them but if we dont start giving 1 a good chance, put full faith in him and back him to the hilt then its going to be an ever revolving managers door.

I understand that in this day and age theres not many managers (or players) that stay with one club like Fergi/Vinegar tits/JT but wouldn't it be good to get one to stay 3 years?

I understand mate, and finally this time I have a very good feeling about Conte and hopefully like you said he will be our manager for at least 3 yrs. So far the positive signs he has showed are way ahead of my expectation and certainly much more than the previous managers. I'm excited, excited about this Conte's Chelsea.

[Melanicus 5,208]

Another great team photo

[Henrique 9,133]

9 hours ago, Clevemayer said:

We both r here a long time and the forum Engine was switched a few Times i cant find Our direct conversations  but Look at first page of Oscar topic After he was Signed someone quoted you albeit not a forum quote saying winger is his natural pos Me and others have been on the other sie after a while the time we knew more Abt him

Then you said he  is better as mata in 2012 when mata was on fire and he was on the wings back then dropping into #10 now and then

 

 

Then before you said Oscar is going to be Our Main Player very soon

You compared him to two wingers

After benitez you thought Oscar was overrated 

Then he is Our Best Player and you predicted it

Then you Switched to the idea of him being natural #10

 

Like i said you r controversial but i value your Input. Problem for me now is your posts dont quote all ppl your answering to, but i Do it the same way. And i always during that convos was on the other sie so I received the bashing too :-) ;-) 

Lets make things clear: you were saying I bashed you because you you said Oscar was a box to box or CM.

I would like to ask you and everybody who liked your post ( @Jason @Fernando  @The Skipper @Leif @Roquila @TheIceMan @The Chels @BlueSunshine @MefiX19 @Last Sicarius @Tautvix @kellzfresh @Chelsea_firstlove) to show me where in those quotes I was bashing you for saying Oscar was CM/b2, or where I said he was a winger. Please, tell me! You just quoted posts where I said he was better than Mata or that he was going to be our best player very soon. Please tell me where I said he was a winger. All you did was quote I post where I compared Hazard and Oscar. Are you for real when you quoted that as a proof that I said he was a winger? So, if you compare Mata and Hazard you are saying both are wingers?

Again you are LYING. Not sure if people who liked your post really know whats going on. The whole thing started when you said I bashed you for saying Oscar was a b2b or CM. Those quotes have nothing to do with that. There is not a single post where I bashed you for saying anything about Oscar position, there is not a single post where I said Oscar was a winger (your attempt to proof that was quite pathetic), there is not a single post where I said Oscar couldn't play as a CM or a box to box.

I still believe Oscar best position is as a playmaker, but the whole discussion is about I bashing you for saying he was a CM. Please stop this nonsense.

[The Chels 2,502]

21 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Lets make things clear: you were saying I bashed you because you you said Oscar was a box to box or CM.

I would like to ask you and everybody who liked your post ( @Jason @Fernando  @The Skipper @Leif @Roquila @TheIceMan @The Chels @BlueSunshine @MefiX19 @Last Sicarius @Tautvix @kellzfresh @Chelsea_firstlove) to show me where in those quotes I was bashing you for saying Oscar was CM/b2, or where I said he was a winger. Please, tell me! You just quoted posts where I said he was better than Mata or that he was going to be our best player very soon. Please tell me where I said he was a winger. All you did was quote I post where I compared Hazard and Oscar. Are you for real when you quoted that as a proof that I said he was a winger? So, if you compare Mata and Hazard you are saying both are wingers?

Again you are LYING. Not sure if people who liked your post really know whats going on. The whole thing started when you said I bashed you for saying Oscar was a b2b or CM. Those quotes have nothing to do with that. There is not a single post where I bashed you for saying anything about Oscar position, there is not a single post where I said Oscar was a winger (your attempt to proof that was quite pathetic), there is not a single post where I said Oscar couldn't play as a CM or a box to box.

I still believe Oscar best position is as a playmaker, but the whole discussion is about I bashing you for saying he was a CM. Please stop this nonsense.

Don't take the likes seriously mate (or that meme lol). It's just banter.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

1 hour ago, The Chels said:

Shots fired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZXhOqlYDwc

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/nemanja-matic-chelsea-coach-antonio-contes-words-gave-me-a-special-feeling-a3307551.html)

You get the feeling that Matic has been holding that one in since the 'can't make a simple pass' comment!

[Captain Ahmed 528]

AC1905:Right spirit, right way

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Plenty to be pleased about was Antonio Conte’s verdict after Gary Cahill’s header was enough for victory over Liverpool in California.The only goal of the game came early on in the Rose Bowl and after that the Blues were rarely troubled by Jurgen Klopp’s side, despite going down to 10 men with 20 minutes still to play.Speaking after the final whistle, Conte said the match, which contained five yellow cards for Liverpool and one for Chelsea in addition to Cesc Fabregas’s red, was more hotly contested than might have been imagined in a pre-season outing,

‘When two great teams face each other in a game, nobody wants to lose and for this reason I saw a competitive game,’ noted the Italian.‘I was pleased with my team because I saw the right spirit and a lot of positive things, but I know and my players know that we can improve a lot. I am pleased with the attitude today and also that when we played with 10 men we didn’t suffer. Don’t forget we are working very hard with two training sessions every day and it is a good attitude.‘The most important thing today was to see the right spirit in my team and the will to fight to win a friendly game. This is the right way.’

Klopp reported that Fabregas had gone into the Liverpool changing room after the match to apologise for his challenge on Ragner Klavan. Conte added that he personally was sorry for it and for the Liverpool player:‘In this period the fatigue can sometimes bring a bit of going too late,’ he explained, ‘and I know Fabregas is a good man and it is not his habit to have this sort of situation.’

The Chelsea boss was also asked about John Terry who played the whole match alongside goalscorer Cahill and about Juan Cuadrado who was introduced in the second half.

‘John Terry is the captain and he is working very well, like the other players. I am very happy with his attitude and I know he loves this team and this shirt. It is very important because he can transfer his passion for this club to the other players. He can play an important role this year if he plays and if he doesn’t play.‘With Juan Cuadrado, in my idea of football I love the role of the winger when doing a one-v-one.  Cuadrado is one of these. I am pleased to train him and when today you can have a substitution of Cuadrado and Pedro to replace Willian and Moses, it is good for Chelsea. Cuadrado is a Chelsea player and I hope he remains one.’

chelseafc.com

 

 

[The Rising Sun 709]

 

[Roquila 1,335]

23 hours ago, Henrique said:

Lets make things clear: you were saying I bashed you because you you said Oscar was a box to box or CM.

I would like to ask you and everybody who liked your post ( @Jason @Fernando  @The Skipper @Leif @Roquila @TheIceMan @The Chels @BlueSunshine @MefiX19 @Last Sicarius @Tautvix @kellzfresh @Chelsea_firstlove) to show me where in those quotes I was bashing you for saying Oscar was CM/b2, or where I said he was a winger. Please, tell me! You just quoted posts where I said he was better than Mata or that he was going to be our best player very soon. Please tell me where I said he was a winger. All you did was quote I post where I compared Hazard and Oscar. Are you for real when you quoted that as a proof that I said he was a winger? So, if you compare Mata and Hazard you are saying both are wingers?

Again you are LYING. Not sure if people who liked your post really know whats going on. The whole thing started when you said I bashed you for saying Oscar was a b2b or CM. Those quotes have nothing to do with that. There is not a single post where I bashed you for saying anything about Oscar position, there is not a single post where I said Oscar was a winger (your attempt to proof that was quite pathetic), there is not a single post where I said Oscar couldn't play as a CM or a box to box.

I still believe Oscar best position is as a playmaker, but the whole discussion is about I bashing you for saying he was a CM. Please stop this nonsense.

I liked his post because i found it somehow funny. Nothing against you mate.

[Melanicus 5,208]

Who wants to see this next game?

Moses - Hazard - Batshuayi - Cuadrado

Chalobah - Kante