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4 hours ago, Barbara said:

Actually I feel like Eden needs the extra push to reach new heights in his career, I just think it has to be a gentle push, not Mourinho's rough ones he got from time to time. Eden doesn't look like the guy who responds well to 'tough love', but I do believe he needs to be pushed

Hi Barbara sorry for going off the topic here do u rate Gabriel Barbosa has a player ?? I would like to hear your view u probably watch him a lot cause your a Brazilian :DIs he any good?? 

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Hello, I am a Juventus italian fan and maybe I can help you to understand which kind of coach Conte is...(sorry for my english, I hope you will understand) When he arrived in Juventus, he fo

I think the fact that we stuck to our principles, pressing them high up the pitch in spurts throughout the game and more importantly, passing out from the back, even with a few mistakes (note - it goe

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1 minute ago, Hybrid Angel said:

Do you believe he would leave his starting position in the best team in the world to play with Ivanovic? :D

In football nothing is impossible :D I think ivanovic will be use has a backup cb next season 

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29 minutes ago, the wes said:

Hi Barbara sorry for going off the topic here do u rate Gabriel Barbosa has a player ?? I would like to hear your view u probably watch him a lot cause your a Brazilian :DIs he any good?? 

sorry love, but I don't watch Brazilian football anymore. Is that Gabigol (nickname)? I could ask around guys I trust their assessment if you really wanna know

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27 minutes ago, Barbara said:

sorry love, but I don't watch Brazilian football anymore. Is that Gabigol (nickname)? I could ask around guys I trust their assessment if you really wanna know

Yes gabigol his nickname yes that would nice of you to do that :D I would like to hear a Brazilian report of gabigol thank you

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On 7/21/2016 at 11:38 PM, Barbara said:

 

First, Shakez, it's so nice to see you posting. I've been away for a long time (no time to even breathe let alone read, post or even watch Chelsea). Not that I don't welcome new members - if they are nice I surely do, but still seeing some guys from the days I posted more often brings a smile to my face, and you my dear, are certainly one of them :)

Now about the double training sessions - I'm sure it's only until the team reaches their best physical condition and an attempt to start the season as strong physically as we could.

Last year we as a club - whether it was a Mourinho's option, a club option or both - made a test by giving players longer vacation time and starting very light on training during preseason. Mourinho addressed it a few times at the beginning of the season and back then I thought it was a valid attempt, but one I would assess when the results of such decision appeared. I did assess it and before the whole Mourinho implosion got out of control, I was starting to second guess the decision of letting the players rest more and start preseason with light sessions. I pointed that out as one of the reasons why things weren't working out in the first two months. We were a couple of step behind the other teams in terms of competitiveness and physicality.

Fact is a lot of things - most directly linked to Mourinho's presence - brought us the the deep hole we dug, but I think we were physically subpar. It was a mistake to give players more time to rest. Unfortunately this is not affordable in modern football, not only because of the bloated calendar, but because the intensity of the game increased a lot. The most physical players from 20 years ago wouldn't last much in nowadays football before running out of steam.

So I fully support the decision of taking heavier, more intense sessions, even if twice a day (I'm going to assume one of those two sessions might be a bit lighter than the other). I'd say when the team is running on full throttle physically we can go back to one session a day - or keep it on alternate days, as we'll rarely have midweek football this season.

Players needs to get ready physically, but also mentally for real competition and the aspect of a demanding manager, that is breathing on their neck, pushing them the farthest they can go prepare players not only physically to endure the challenges of an unbelievable busy calendar, but also have them mentally ready earlier as well. I hope we never ago take the longer vacation time,lighter preseason route again.

I don't exactly know what is the floor you're giving me, but I hope is from a stage because I'm on vacation and I won't sweep anything :P (bad joke I know, but I'm the queen of bad jokes)

I think it's going to be paramount for our success this season - and consequently Conte's too - the fact that we won't have any European football to play at all. I mean, of course I would have preferred if we were playing Europe, even Europa League, but as we are not, let's make the most of it and I think that gives Conte the best scenario to work. After the season we had, there's obviously less pressure than usual. We were 10th, so it's not like people are going to demand us to win the title. Most fans would be happy with being Arsenal for a season and just aiming the 4th place and assuring UCL next season. So when bad results come - and they certainly will - media and fans won't be on Conte like they would if we had a standard Chelsea season last year. Unfortunately the stakes aren't as high as they normally are, but that's working to Conte's advantage if you ask me.

Not playing during the week not only helps the players being fresher, but also allows Conte to make more tests with formations, tactical approaches, etc. When you have two or three days before your next match, you can't work on those things as much as you want because you need to get ready for the next game. With the next game being 6, 7 or even 8, 9 days later, Conte has time not only to train drills, but also to make tests. Even though the lack of European football sucks, I think it's going to be the one fact that will help Conte the most.

And let's not joke ourselves, even during my most avid Mourinho defending days, I complained about how he seemed to have dropped some of the drilling aspect of training. It seemed like he became sloppy in training certain kind of moves with players, how to position on free kicks - both defending and attacking. How many times have we read or heard him saying that he told Hazard he could go there and do his thing and it feels like except demanding a whole much of work rate from all players, Mourinho seemed to have settled for letting them to their thing most time and having only a few organized, trained (or as we say in Portuguese, rehearsed) plays, moves, composition, etc. We relied a lot on Fabregas killer eye for an assist, Willian's energy and pace, Hazard's talent and Costa giving-it-all attitude.

A team as big as us certainly needs its manager to go beyond that. The manager we need can't let players do their thing and only demand work rate from them. They need to be trained in the most strict meaning of the word, drilled, pushed, guided and if that's the case, even taken by the hand. I want to see Conte stopping the training motion simply to correct our defense and midfield positioning. I want him to be livid on players when they aren't paying enough attention or keeping to the plan as they're supposed to, I want him to push, push, push as much as he works, works, works. Those players aren't as bad as they looked last season, the thing is they weren't pushed enough and most of them became the worst version of themselves because let's not fool ourselves, the intensity and demands of modern football I mentioned above are insane and if there isn't someone breathing on their necks to give more and go further - they, like any other human being on their place - will just fall into their comfort zone. Most of them probably do it without noticing and without being able to leave that place by themselves. Modern sports - not only football actually - keep demanding more, and it's a while since the demands went above the 'natural' disposition. Yes, they're paid much more than they should just to play in this level, but money doesn't reset how your brain works and the exception is the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo - players that are constantly pushing their limits by themselves, but that's a very particular and personal trait, we can't expect - let alone demand - every player, no matter how much money the club gives them to have their brain reset to just make their body go beyond its natural limits.

And now I said too much, but that's entirely Chelsea Buzz fault. He gave me a whole floor, what was I supposed to do with it as I refuse to do any more sweeping on my vacay time? Complaints direct to him please :P

Kidding of course, I may not be the queen of the longest posts anymore, but I just had a lot to say... as usual for women and even more so for me. Good thing most of you can cope with me already ;)

The ones who can't yet for they're new here, chop chop and learn (bad joke again)

Barbara, great to see you in mid-season form already :D

Seriously, you bring terrific insight and a light-hearted approach that is always good reading. You and many others on here make this place what it is. Missed you lots last year.

Come on you Chelsea!!

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Antonio Conte eager to make another 4 signings ahead of the new season (Telegraph) #CFC

Conte laid out his demands in a stormy 2-hour summit meeting with Abramovich, director Marina Granovskaia and Michael Emenalo (Mirror) #CFC

Conte fears he'll have no chance leading #CFC to the title if his squad isn't drastically improved. Wants new signings in ALL depts (Mirror)

Crunch hotel talks [with Conte/Roman/Marina/Emenalo] took place last Saturday night in Austria after defeat to Rapid Vienna. (Mirror) #CFC

Abramovich is understood to have walked away from the talks looking less than impressed, according to witnesses. (Mirror) #CFC

A further meeting was held the next day before Abramovich watched training. (Mirror) #CFC

Another striker and centre-back are top of #CFC list of priorities. Chelsea have had two bids for Alvaro Morata turned down (Mirror) #CFC

Chelsea are keeping tabs on Everton striker Romelu Lukaku. #ASRoma’s Radja Nainggolan remains a central midfield target. #CFC #EFC (Mirror)

In defence, #Juventus Leonardo Bonucci, #Napoli’s Kalidou Koulibaly and #ASRoma’s Kostas Manolas are all on Chelsea's radar. (Mirror) #CFC

There are fears among the #CFC hierarchy that it will be difficult to deliver the players Conte wants with increased competition (Mirror)

Abramovich is ready to back Conte with the Italian’s concerns about #CFC missing out on the top 4 if they don't bolster their squad (Mirror)

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Already trouble in paradis, maybe now Conte knows what he has signed up for. Unbelievable naive that he didn't include tranfers in his contract, now it's getting tough, but at least he has been taught a lesson for life. 'Abramovich looking less impressed' tells a good story!

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Conte need new team to attack   EPL Title .

We need  defender , central midfielder , playmaker , Forward + sell  Mikel , Baba , Remy ,Oscar and maybe Ivanovic .

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20 minutes ago, milka said:

Conte need new team to attack   EPL Title .

We need  defender , central midfielder , playmaker , Forward + sell  Mikel , Baba , Remy ,Oscar and maybe Ivanovic .

Baba, you must kidding me. He is great left defender for 4-2-4 tactic.

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59 minutes ago, milka said:

Conte need new team to attack   EPL Title .

We need  defender , central midfielder , playmaker , Forward + sell  Mikel , Baba , Remy ,Oscar and maybe Ivanovic .

Why would you sell Oscar? Oscar is gonna be great in a 4-2-4.

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Already trouble in paradis, maybe now Conte knows what he has signed up for. Unbelievable naive that he didn't include tranfers in his contract, now it's getting tough, but at least he has been taught a lesson for life. 'Abramovich looking less impressed' tells a good story!

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Yeah right, like the bloody media know what's in Roman's mind, impressed or not. They know jack shit.

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3 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said:

Why would you sell Oscar? Oscar is gonna be great in a 4-2-4.

looool, yeah right. Oscar isn't going to be great in any formation. Conte will find out about him very soon.

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1 minute ago, Styles said:

looool, yeah right. Oscar isn't going to be great in any formation. Conte will find out about him very soon.

Oscar is CM and there he is really good as CAM he is not good.Conte will find out how good Oscar is.

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Yeah right, like the bloody media know what's in Roman's mind, impressed or not. They know jack shit.

I'm sure some journalist was sitting at this secret meeting between 4 club executives and could see Abramovich's facial expressions. [emoji23]

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8 hours ago, xPetrCechx said:

Antonio Conte eager to make another 4 signings ahead of the new season (Telegraph) #CFC

Conte laid out his demands in a stormy 2-hour summit meeting with Abramovich, director Marina Granovskaia and Michael Emenalo (Mirror) #CFC

Conte fears he'll have no chance leading #CFC to the title if his squad isn't drastically improved. Wants new signings in ALL depts (Mirror)

Crunch hotel talks [with Conte/Roman/Marina/Emenalo] took place last Saturday night in Austria after defeat to Rapid Vienna. (Mirror) #CFC

Abramovich is understood to have walked away from the talks looking less than impressed, according to witnesses. (Mirror) #CFC

A further meeting was held the next day before Abramovich watched training. (Mirror) #CFC

Another striker and centre-back are top of #CFC list of priorities. Chelsea have had two bids for Alvaro Morata turned down (Mirror) #CFC

Chelsea are keeping tabs on Everton striker Romelu Lukaku. #ASRoma’s Radja Nainggolan remains a central midfield target. #CFC #EFC (Mirror)

In defence, #Juventus Leonardo Bonucci, #Napoli’s Kalidou Koulibaly and #ASRoma’s Kostas Manolas are all on Chelsea's radar. (Mirror) #CFC

There are fears among the #CFC hierarchy that it will be difficult to deliver the players Conte wants with increased competition (Mirror)

Abramovich is ready to back Conte with the Italian’s concerns about #CFC missing out on the top 4 if they don't bolster their squad (Mirror)

Hard to believe that Conte has made a similar speech about not being able to win,is the opposite of what he said in various interviews and his philosophy of life based on work.But surely Chelsea however must strengthen in defense, midfield and attack especially now that the MU has stolen Pogba to Juventus.

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