The Conte Thread

[Chelsea4 1,521]

1 hour ago, Essien19 said:

Already trouble in paradis, maybe now Conte knows what he has signed up for. Unbelievable naive that he didn't include tranfers in his contract, now it's getting tough, but at least he has been taught a lesson for life. 'Abramovich looking less impressed' tells a good story!

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Or maybe the source is worse than the Sun.

[Chelsea4 1,521]

59 minutes ago, milka said:

Conte need new team to attack   EPL Title .

We need  defender , central midfielder , playmaker , Forward + sell  Mikel , Baba , Remy ,Oscar and maybe Ivanovic .

Why would you sell Oscar? Oscar is gonna be great in a 4-2-4.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Already trouble in paradis, maybe now Conte knows what he has signed up for. Unbelievable naive that he didn't include tranfers in his contract, now it's getting tough, but at least he has been taught a lesson for life. 'Abramovich looking less impressed' tells a good story!

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Yeah right, like the bloody media know what's in Roman's mind, impressed or not. They know jack shit.

[Styles 9,790]

3 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said:

Why would you sell Oscar? Oscar is gonna be great in a 4-2-4.

looool, yeah right. Oscar isn't going to be great in any formation. Conte will find out about him very soon.

[Chelsea4 1,521]

1 minute ago, Styles said:

looool, yeah right. Oscar isn't going to be great in any formation. Conte will find out about him very soon.

Oscar is CM and there he is really good as CAM he is not good.Conte will find out how good Oscar is.

[obiwan92 217]

Yeah right, like the bloody media know what's in Roman's mind, impressed or not. They know jack shit.

I'm sure some journalist was sitting at this secret meeting between 4 club executives and could see Abramovich's facial expressions. [emoji23]

[AlesJuve 264]

8 hours ago, xPetrCechx said:

Antonio Conte eager to make another 4 signings ahead of the new season (Telegraph) #CFC

Conte laid out his demands in a stormy 2-hour summit meeting with Abramovich, director Marina Granovskaia and Michael Emenalo (Mirror) #CFC

Conte fears he'll have no chance leading #CFC to the title if his squad isn't drastically improved. Wants new signings in ALL depts (Mirror)

Crunch hotel talks [with Conte/Roman/Marina/Emenalo] took place last Saturday night in Austria after defeat to Rapid Vienna. (Mirror) #CFC

Abramovich is understood to have walked away from the talks looking less than impressed, according to witnesses. (Mirror) #CFC

A further meeting was held the next day before Abramovich watched training. (Mirror) #CFC

Another striker and centre-back are top of #CFC list of priorities. Chelsea have had two bids for Alvaro Morata turned down (Mirror) #CFC

Chelsea are keeping tabs on Everton striker Romelu Lukaku. #ASRoma’s Radja Nainggolan remains a central midfield target. #CFC #EFC (Mirror)

In defence, #Juventus Leonardo Bonucci, #Napoli’s Kalidou Koulibaly and #ASRoma’s Kostas Manolas are all on Chelsea's radar. (Mirror) #CFC

There are fears among the #CFC hierarchy that it will be difficult to deliver the players Conte wants with increased competition (Mirror)

Abramovich is ready to back Conte with the Italian’s concerns about #CFC missing out on the top 4 if they don't bolster their squad (Mirror)

Hard to believe that Conte has made a similar speech about not being able to win,is the opposite of what he said in various interviews and his philosophy of life based on work.But surely Chelsea however must strengthen in defense, midfield and attack especially now that the MU has stolen Pogba to Juventus.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Chelsea are no longer a dominant force in the transfer market - and club chiefs are worried

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-no-longer-dominant-force-8477539

[Pizy 18,368]

8 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Chelsea are no longer a dominant force in the transfer market - and club chiefs are worried

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-no-longer-dominant-force-8477539

Nor do we need to be. We can spend more intelligently than before and still complete at the highest level. We can leave the ridiculous transfer fees to United and Madrid.

We just spent £33m on a highly coveted young striker and another £32m on the most sought after midfielder in Europe after Pogba. Now we're apparently in the market for another few. Yeah, definitely seems like the club are worried. Mirror talking absolute SHIT as usual.

Its true that the days of Chelsea being able to go in and easily blow everyone out of the water are over but we can still sign world class players.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

31 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Chelsea are no longer a dominant force in the transfer market - and club chiefs are worried

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-no-longer-dominant-force-8477539

That article is nearly ten years out of date. Of course we aren't dominant. Have they just noticed?

In any case we were never truly dominant. We had the biggest budget for a few short years but we were never able to attract the very best players. Right from the start of the Roman era the pattern was established where clubs fleeced us for top prices but never quite sold us the top players.

CFC officials have been dealing with the reality of Chelsea's transfer position for a long time. They know the score and so do most of us here.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Conte is determined to sign 1 top-class centre forward & atleast 1 more defender, possibly 2, plus a back-up GK set to be Diego Lopez (Mail)

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

Had Chelsea been behind the bigger clubs, Kante would now be a Madrid or a PSG player. Chelsea is still one of the top attractions in world football, it's just the club's choice to be more cautious when it comes to bigger fees. Bayern have this policy since forever (£33m being the biggest amount they've payed on a player).

And with Mourinho's departure we cannot say that the club has lost its spark it terms of attracting players that would have come here at the opportunity of working for a top notch manager because Conte is a coveted manager as well (e.g. Kante). He can always come up with the likes of Pogba, Bonucci, Chiellini, Vidal, Lichsteiner, Asamoah etc. when trying to convince someone to join him, players that he's taken to the next level during his time at Juventus. 

[Barbara 15,149]

18 hours ago, the wes said:

Yes gabigol his nickname yes that would nice of you to do that  I would like to hear a Brazilian report of gabigol thank you

Well, according to my sources (:P they're still better than the DM, Sun and Mirror) the kid is talented, technical, killer instinct ,but already has an arrogant attitude about himself (not as bad as Lukaku though) thinking he's something very special. He's small, but fast, and in a sense could be compared to Walcott. 

He could develop into a very good player, but he isn't on the level to move to big team yet. Discussing with my boys, we came to the conclusion it'd be good for his career to go to one of the three Portuguese teams, a medium team in Spain or maybe even a big in Italy and see how he develops after it. 

I don't know anything myself, as I stated before, but I've never rated Theo, so I don't think I'd rate Gabriel either. Also his picture when you google him is ridiculous, omg, he has terrible styling(footballers normally do these days). Between the three guys I asked, only one thought maybe he could come to Chelsea, the other two don't think it'd be good for Chelsea (or the kid).

16 hours ago, Chelsea Buzz said:

Barbara, great to see you in mid-season form already

Seriously, you bring terrific insight and a light-hearted approach that is always good reading. You and many others on here make this place what it is. Missed you lots last year.

Come on you Chelsea!!

Unfortunately I start working in a week from now, and God knows how my life will be after vacation is over. I hope to make some time to be around more often.

10 hours ago, Essien19 said:

Already trouble in paradis, maybe now Conte knows what he has signed up for. Unbelievable naive that he didn't include tranfers in his contract, now it's getting tough, but at least he has been taught a lesson for life. 'Abramovich looking less impressed' tells a good story!

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Dude, I really don't have a problem with you, I swear, I even got along with you while I used to post, but seriously, what are you still doing here? I don't mean as a Chelsea fan, but in the forum. You seem delighted with the possibility of Conte having trouble with the board or vice-versa, you want Mourinho's team to beat Chelsea to punish players that Mourinho himself brought here and who Mourinho himself burned bridges with when he started behaving in an improper way, you're more active in Mourinho's thread than you seem to be in the rest of the forum. So I ask again, what are you still doing here - picking silly discussions and collecting people to dislike you? Of course, I'm not kicking you out (don't have the power or even the will to do that), I'm just questioning what's the point of come here to post about this kind of stuff. You're making no friends with such statements and it's very clear to everyone how you feel about Mourinho, what Chelsea and Mourinho did to each other last year and the current team and manager. Maybe you could take a break from the forum.

And talking about naive, let me tell you something, managers - let alone head coaches - don't have such things on their contracts about transfers. They could have a line or two mentioning they must have a saying in new contracts, but in a club with loan culture such as Chelsea, it's really irrelevant. Less and less managers have this power in football nowadays, as their tenure are shorter and shorter . Clubs keep making investments in the kind of people they hire to make part of their boards, and there's a reason for that. Suggesting that Conte or anyone else should have such a clause in their contract is beyond naive... which is ironic.

3 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Had Chelsea been behind the bigger clubs, Kante would now be a Madrid or a PSG player. Chelsea is still one of the top attractions in world football, it's just the club's choice to be more cautious when it comes to bigger fees. Bayern have this policy since forever (£33m being the biggest amount they've payed on a player).

And with Mourinho's departure we cannot say that the club has lost its spark it terms of attracting players that would have come here at the opportunity of working for a top notch manager because Conte is a coveted manager as well (e.g. Kante). He can always come up with the likes of Pogba, Bonucci, Chiellini, Vidal, Lichsteiner, Asamoah etc. when trying to convince someone to join him, players that he's taken to the next level during his time at Juventus. 

It's not only his propaganda of what he did to those players, but how some of them were picked by him and he had the ability to develop them into those talents they became. He has an eye for players with potential and a good hand to work with them. Not only this could be good propaganda to attract players that want similar development in their careers, but also tells a lot about Conte himself. We should definitely trust the unproven players he brings because if he has his eye on them is because he sees a potential he could help develop, which is great because it makes for good bargain tag prices and have players develop to meet our needs, not the other way around. It's always better to develop the player rather than get the final product because there's no guarantee a big name in one league will be as successful in another, except the very, very very top players that could play anywhere. Also, developing a player means that he already knows and has been adapted not only to the league, but to the club style and philosophy (two things Chelsea desperate need to establish and start working on).

[the wes 7,212]

11 minutes ago, Barbara said:

Well, according to my sources (:P they're still better than the DM, Sun and Mirror) the kid is talented, technical, killer instinct ,but already has an arrogant attitude about himself (not as bad as Lukaku though) thinking he's something very special. He's small, but fast, and in a sense could be compared to Walcott. 

He could develop into a very good player, but he isn't on the level to move to big team yet. Discussing with my boys, we came to the conclusion it'd be good for his career to go to one of the three Portuguese teams, a medium team in Spain or maybe even a big in Italy and see how he develops after it. 

I don't know anything myself, as I stated before, but I've never rated Theo, so I don't think I'd rate Gabriel either. Also his picture when you google him is ridiculous, omg, he has terrible styling(footballers normally do these days). Between the three guys I asked, only one thought maybe he could come to Chelsea, the other two don't think it'd be good for Chelsea (or the kid).

Unfortunately I start working in a week from now, and God knows how my life will be after vacation is over. I hope to make some time to be around more often.

Dude, I really don't have a problem with you, I swear, I even got along with you while I used to post, but seriously, what are you still doing here? I don't mean as a Chelsea fan, but in the forum. You seem delighted with the possibility of Conte having trouble with the board or vice-versa, you want Mourinho's team to beat Chelsea to punish players that Mourinho himself brought here and who Mourinho himself burned bridges with when he started behaving in an improper way, you're more active in Mourinho's thread than you seem to be in the rest of the forum. So I ask again, what are you still doing here - picking silly discussions and collecting people to dislike you? Of course, I'm not kicking you out (don't have the power or even the will to do that), I'm just questioning what's the point of come here to post about this kind of stuff. You're making no friends with such statements and it's very clear to everyone how you feel about Mourinho, what Chelsea and Mourinho did to each other last year and the current team and manager. Maybe you could take a break from the forum.

And talking about naive, let me tell you something, managers - let alone head coaches - don't have such things on their contracts about transfers. They could have a line or two mentioning they must have a saying in new contracts, but in a club with loan culture such as Chelsea, it's really irrelevant. Less and less managers have this power in football nowadays, as their tenure are shorter and shorter . Clubs keep making investments in the kind of people they hire to make part of their boards, and there's a reason for that. Suggesting that Conte or anyone else should have such a clause in their contract is beyond naive... which is ironic.

It's not only his propaganda of what he did to those players, but how some of them were picked by him and he had the ability to develop them into those talents they became. He has an eye for players with potential and a good hand to work with them. Not only this could be good propaganda to attract players that want similar development in their careers, but also tells a lot about Conte himself. We should definitely trust the unproven players he brings because if he has his eye on them is because he sees a potential he could help develop, which is great because it makes for good bargain tag prices and have players develop to meet our needs, not the other way around. It's always better to develop the player rather than get the final product because there's no guarantee a big name in one league will be as successful in another, except the very, very very top players that could play anywhere. Also, developing a player means that he already knows and has been adapted not only to the league, but to the club style and philosophy (two things Chelsea desperate need to establish and start working on).

Thanks for the info your wee legend 

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Antonio recently gave two interviews to Chelsea TV and I AM NOT talking about post-match interviews.

Could you please try to find them from different source and put them here ? I will look for them myself in any case. If there was one good guy that could extract those videos from their website ...

[Barbara 15,149]

1 hour ago, the wes said:

Thanks for the info your wee legend 

I just received a full and detailed report. If it was productive I would screencap the  whole thing, but it's Portuguese.

So this guy is a kid I started working with very recently (recording a Chelsea podcast), and when we were recording it I really enjoyed his views on the sport, we basically agreed on every assessment we did about the points raised by the anchor, so despite knowing the kid for a very short time, he seems like a reasonable person and seems to understand a lot about football.

So let's test my summarizing abilities (lol, as if I have any). The Gabi kid is vain - in a Ronaldo way - he cares a lot about his physical image, but he isn't arrogant as the others pointed out, he wants to look pretty and love himself. I don't know among you lads, but among us - girls - those are very standard things

He didn't leave Santos yet because he didn't want, he wants to develop further, but also wants a bigger price tag   as he owns 20% of himself (LOL, that's so funny). So 20% of the bid goes to himself, 40% to his agent and 40% to Santos. Don't ask me how players buy themselves, but they do somehow. That's some weird Brazilian culture. So he's enjoying his time at Santos,trying to learn as much as he can, but also trying to get as much money from the transfer as possible.

Playing he's much better than Walcott according my trusted new source and is comparable to Solanke (<3) being only one year older. Leftie, who shoots pretty well with both feet, he's adaptable, having played as a #9 for most of his career, but recently switched to second striker and AM positions and flared very well on both. He's also very versatile, being capable of playing in all attacking positions and tactical roles  with a certain easiness (doesn't mean he aces them all). He's very talented, his dribbles are the same sort of Neymar's (that's a loose comparison related only to style, not quality).  His preferred and best side to play (as AM, 2nd striker) is the right - which would be very welcomed at Chelsea after years of having players who do better in the left, but play in the right for us detracting some of their best potential).

Despite being small, he's strong for his size and age and has been working on his work rate - which is still precarious as he still very bad in the defensive/marking/closing defensive gaps aspect of the game,but he's very willing to go back and help his team mates (I believe at age 19 that's already good enough).

Deficiencies: heading, small height, temper. He's known for getting angry easily when things get hot, showing that he still has a way to go mentally. The temper/mental aspect I think could be worked on, after all the kid is still 19.

As usual in life, you don't need to know everything, you just need to know the right people  So I cosign with everything my mate reported me, even if I don't know him for long and you can quote me  in those things when the guy comes to Europe.

Worth mentioning, there's another Gabriel who's also very, very very good. Gabriel Jesus.

[Essien19 1,415]

4 hours ago, Barbara said:

Dude, I really don't have a problem with you, I swear, I even got along with you while I used to post, but seriously, what are you still doing here? I don't mean as a Chelsea fan, but in the forum...

Nice text, put a lot of thought in it for someone who doesn't care, mhh. You don't like it, ignore it, if the problem still exists, enable the ignore function which should help. As far as i'm concerned i simply write my opinion, i don't like the board, but i'm still a fan of the club, so i think reading and sometimes posting is just fine. Sometimes i go to far, call me out and i consider, maybe i agree with you and will apologise. I try to attack the opinion, not the poster. If anyone from the 'police' thinks we need more yes men, ban me, otherwise i won't go away. In which thread i choose to write is none of your business.

What you said about Mourinho is your opinion, i stated mine in the Mourinho thread. The things all of us have to say are opinions, not facts, so nice try with the lecture.

Fuck me, i have different problems, lost my phone at a friend's wedding, but this text, i couldn't let stand.

Good night!

[The Chels 2,502]

3 hours ago, Blue Colored Sky said:

Antonio recently gave two interviews to Chelsea TV and I AM NOT talking about post-match interviews.

Could you please try to find them from different source and put them here ? I will look for them myself in any case. If there was one good guy that could extract those videos from their website ...

 

16 minutes ago, Essien19 said:

Fuck me, i have different problems, lost my phone at a friend's wedding, but this text, i couldn't let stand.

We've all been there (minus the phone part). Reminds me of this