The Conte Thread

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Everyone jumping on the 'head coach' thing as if they actually know what the difference is, is as funny as those who just KNOW for sure that Emenalo is responsible for all transfers despite ZERO evidence for it 

The proof of whether or not he will be given considerable influence on transfers will be in pudding. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Welcome. Please sign Nainggolan, Vidal and Bonucci. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,320]

6 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

He led us a couple points off the relegation zone after 16 games. 9 losses, 3 draws and only 4 wins. He was done, out of ideas and fully deserved the sack. Get over it.

And don't start with the "he wasn't backed in the transferwindow. That's not an excuse for the disastrous season he lead us into. 

The Jose Mourinho that arrived in 2004 was the best manager this club ever had. The Jose Mourinho that arrived here in 2013 wasn't even close to the one in 2004.

I don't know what exactly happened at Real Madrid but it changed him in a really bad way.

I am not so sure. Not sanctioning specific targets has a disastous effect on a teams aspirations and also on the remaining players -which is often overlooked.  I could say to you ''And dont start with the blaming it on the Real Madrid scenario''. You have no proof. The POY belgian   'individual' for 2014-15 was definitely not performing amongst several others  -that is a certainty along with Abramovich surrounding himself with self seeking money orientated, non football yes people. Anyway I hope Conte is left alone.

The clue is in your last sentence though ''I dont know exactly what happened...'' No, no one does

 

[Muzchap 8,966]

Wooohoo - let's get this shebang on the road!

Looking forward to a nice summer of signings and Euros - I hope we get the signings done early - don't want any Euro's premium added to transfer prices

Everything wrapped up quickly would be ideal.

[the wes 7,212]

Andy Townsend believes that new Chelsea manager Antonio Conte will be able to “capture the attention” of the club’s players in the same way former boss Jose Mourinho used to.
http://www.squawka.com/news/conte-will-capture-the-attention-of-chelsea-players-like-just-mourinho-did-predicts-townsend/636198#pecDUL02lgWI2azW.99

[Fulham Broadway 17,320]

''Conte,  Conte,  Conte,  Antonio Cooooonte''

To the tune of ''Dont You Want me Baby'' like we did for Di Matteo

[the wes 7,212]

45 minutes ago, Kieran. said:

Welcome. Please sign Nainggolan, Vidal and Bonucci. 

Bonucci rule out going to Chelsea in a press conference two weeks ago 

[Fernando 6,585]

47 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I am not so sure. Not sanctioning specific targets has a disastous effect on a teams aspirations and also on the remaining players -which is often overlooked.  I could say to you ''And dont start with the blaming it on the Real Madrid scenario''. You have no proof. The POY  'individual' for 2014-15 was definitely not performing amongst several others  -that is a certainty along with Abramovich surrounding himself with self seeking money orientated, non football yes people. Anyway I hope Conte is left alone.

The clue is in your last sentence though ''I dont know exactly what happened...'' No, no one does

 

So a bad summer led us to relegation zone? 

Get the heck out of here. 

You don't need a lot of money to do good as shown by Leicester and tottenham. 

If you can't get your target like pogba and stone then don't buy or settle for less. 

[kiwi1691 255]

I am tired of this myth the board didn't support Jose, here is a good post from a Chelsea supporter on the RedCafe forum. 

 

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 There isn't much more you can do when Everton straight up decline £45m for Stones, when a €60m bid is accepted for Koke and he refuses to even talk with the club and when you offer more money then United for Martial and Monaco still reject your offer and he goes to United. What else could we do with those targets? None of them wanted to play for us under Mourinho, simple as that. Only Griezmann was maybe attainable but we didn't think £43m was good value for him. Something I believe we got totally wrong. Instead we bought Pedro to do a similar job for half the money. 

Also, why did we need to spend nearly £200m on players for Mourinho to have another title winning season and not implode? Isn't that the sign of a bad manager if they have to constantly spend a small fortune every season to be competitive? Plus the fact that spending absurd amounts every year isn't a suitable long term solution. 

Another point, the problems we had when Mourinho first took charge (Blunt attack, lack of control in midfield and a slow aging defence) we still had two years into his reign despite him spending a load f money every transfer window. That's because he bought short term quick fixes rather then long term solutions. 

Funnily enough, a lot of our problems could've been solved if Mourinho had just given the youth players a chance like he said he was going to. Christensen has shown himself to be as talented as Stones ever was and equally good on the ball this season in CB, Loftus-Cheek would've given the midfield much more solidity playing a box to box role in a midfield 3 and Traore would 've offered more threat going forwards then either Remy or Falcao coming from the right or playing as a striker. He showed them no faith though and wanted 5/6 top class players added to the team, when he could've just given them the chance they deserved and only bot 1/2 top players.

 

[Special Juan 28,141]

22 minutes ago, kiwi1691 said:

I am tired of this myth the board didn't support Jose, here is a good post from a Chelsea supporter on the RedCafe forum. 

 

 

I'm sorry but lets get this into perspective and start with John Stones. We approached Everton with an offer of 20M for Stones, talk about pissing a team off before you even start, that right there was the start of what was joke from us and how not to sign a player. If you go to a garage for a ten grand car do you walk into the showroom and offer five grand? No chance, especially not for a top model all singing all dancing car, you will be told to fuck off, and that's what happened to us.

We won the title last season, and despite what certain people say you MUST strengthen despite previous victories, we didn't, we saw what happened. You don't sit on your hands and hope you go again, and that includes big purchases because on the horizon and future outlook was the CL, the biggest daddy of them all. We needed better than Rahman, Djiliboji and Pedro, end of. This wasn't about JM being good or bad it was purely about what the club needed and the team was crying out for....new fresh blood.

Mourinho was not the complete catalyst to the downfall, but he didn't help himself. He continued to play the same way despite defeats, play the same players no matter what level of performance was given and all of a sudden cracks started to appear because there was no way past the ego of Mourinho, an the short coming from the board started to really show.

People are right when they say the people behind the scenes aren't football people, had they been football people we wouldn't of been trying to hitch hike Stones for 20M, that was pure fucking idiotic from us, and that right there did one thing, it pissed Everton off and the deal was as good as dead. We then looked like little lost school boys with another bid, then another one and all of a sudden Chelsea became a laughing stock again.

I have said it before and will repeat it again, it wasn't just JM it was everyone from top to bottom, the club is/was a mess and this new appointment of Conte should herald a new start. I'm not sure it will, I have zero faith in the men/woman in the boardroom which is why I said a full overhaul is needed, not just a new coach.

[chelseafan26 293]

24 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I'm sorry but lets get this into perspective and start with John Stones. We approached Everton with an offer of 20M for Stones, talk about pissing a team off before you even start, that right there was the start of what was joke from us and how not to sign a player. If you go to a garage for a ten grand car do you walk into the showroom and offer five grand? No chance, especially not for a top model all singing all dancing car, you will be told to fuck off, and that's what happened to us.

We won the title last season, and despite what certain people say you MUST strengthen despite previous victories, we didn't, we saw what happened. You don't sit on your hands and hope you go again, and that includes big purchases because on the horizon and future outlook was the CL, the biggest daddy of them all. We needed better than Rahman, Djiliboji and Pedro, end of. This wasn't about JM being good or bad it was purely about what the club needed and the team was crying out for....new fresh blood.

Mourinho was not the complete catalyst to the downfall, but he didn't help himself. He continued to play the same way despite defeats, play the same players no matter what level of performance was given and all of a sudden cracks started to appear because there was no way past the ego of Mourinho, an the short coming from the board started to really show.

People are right when they say the people behind the scenes aren't football people, had they been football people we wouldn't of been trying to hitch hike Stones for 20M, that was pure fucking idiotic from us, and that right there did one thing, it pissed Everton off and the deal was as good as dead. We then looked like little lost school boys with another bid, then another one and all of a sudden Chelsea became a laughing stock again.

I have said it before and will repeat it again, it wasn't just JM it was everyone from top to bottom, the club is/was a mess and this new appointment of Conte should herald a new start. I'm not sure it will, I have zero faith in the men/woman in the boardroom which is why I said a full overhaul is needed, not just a new coach.

AMEN brother!!! 

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Somebody mentioned pudding? Yummy 

[Fulham Broadway 17,320]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

So a bad summer led us to relegation zone? 

Get the heck out of here. 

You don't need a lot of money to do good as shown by Leicester and tottenham. 

If you can't get your target like pogba and stone then don't buy or settle for less. 

Tell the  board and Buckenalo not to settle for less then.  Players let the team down by not performing /being unfit, Mourinho wasnt allowed the players he wanted, he was stubborn and continued with kamikaze selections and tactics.

Tottenham and Leicester players have developed, its called evolution

[Weckerz 3,781]

15 hours ago, the wes said:

 

Is that the Hawthorns in the background? (in the video, not the thumbnail)

/facepalm

[LDN Blue 7,903]

2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

People are right when they say the people behind the scenes aren't football people, had they been football people we wouldn't of been trying to hitch hike Stones for 20M, that was pure fucking idiotic from us, and that right there did one thing, it pissed Everton off and the deal was as good as dead. We then looked like little lost school boys with another bid, then another one and all of a sudden Chelsea became a laughing stock again.

Lets not forget the embarrassing deadline day approach for Marquinhos   

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It is understood the Blues have offered two separate sums between the £25.7m and £40.4m-mark for the Brazil international.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9975281/chelsea-fail-with-two-bids-for-paris-saint-german-star-marquinhos

 

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

3 hours ago, Special Juan said:

I'm sorry but lets get this into perspective and start with John Stones. We approached Everton with an offer of 20M for Stones, talk about pissing a team off before you even start, that right there was the start of what was joke from us and how not to sign a player. If you go to a garage for a ten grand car do you walk into the showroom and offer five grand? No chance, especially not for a top model all singing all dancing car, you will be told to fuck off, and that's what happened to us.

We won the title last season, and despite what certain people say you MUST strengthen despite previous victories, we didn't, we saw what happened. You don't sit on your hands and hope you go again, and that includes big purchases because on the horizon and future outlook was the CL, the biggest daddy of them all. We needed better than Rahman, Djiliboji and Pedro, end of. This wasn't about JM being good or bad it was purely about what the club needed and the team was crying out for....new fresh blood.

Mourinho was not the complete catalyst to the downfall, but he didn't help himself. He continued to play the same way despite defeats, play the same players no matter what level of performance was given and all of a sudden cracks started to appear because there was no way past the ego of Mourinho, an the short coming from the board started to really show.

People are right when they say the people behind the scenes aren't football people, had they been football people we wouldn't of been trying to hitch hike Stones for 20M, that was pure fucking idiotic from us, and that right there did one thing, it pissed Everton off and the deal was as good as dead. We then looked like little lost school boys with another bid, then another one and all of a sudden Chelsea became a laughing stock again.

I have said it before and will repeat it again, it wasn't just JM it was everyone from top to bottom, the club is/was a mess and this new appointment of Conte should herald a new start. I'm not sure it will, I have zero faith in the men/woman in the boardroom which is why I said a full overhaul is needed, not just a new coach.

The board have got many things wrong this season but not paying over odds for Stones was not one of them.

He is not worth £40m and I doubt he ever will be. The only thing JM did wrong this season is that he stuck by his players for too long - Traore should have been playing back in November, for example.

[Special Juan 28,141]

3 minutes ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

The board have got many things wrong this season but not paying over odds for Stones was not one of them.

He is not worth £40m and I doubt he ever will be.

They soon eventually got near to that figure though didn't they?

[Pizy 18,928]

Wish we can fast forward the rest of the season...

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

1 minute ago, Special Juan said:

They soon eventually got to that figure though didn't they?

I don't think they went that high, even if the Mail said otherwise

[8Lamps 0]

really glad it's been sorted out so early! didn't want the rumours to drag on endlessly.

he'll be focussing on the Euro 2016 campaign, but should have time to think about what he wants to implement come the start of his tenure at the Bridge