The Mourinho Thread

[Term-X 7,891]

Oh okay you meant big games only.

Fair point.

Results point to that, but it seems like last two seasons he has been out though by klopp and simeone in the biggest game of them all.

So does that makes them now big game specialist now?

No not for me, just that every year little things can impact the game.

Well, obviously not, because as you 'sort of allude to', it's all about consistency. Mourinho's is unmatchable..

[Fernando 6,497]

Well, obviously not, because as you 'sort of allude to', it's all about consistency. Mourinho's is unmatchable..

Yes consistency.

Last two years have not been consistency.

That's why for me Mourinho has to put his money where his mouth is next season.

He said this season is transition, fair enough. We agreed on all.

He says next season we are going to be title challengers from the beginning, fair enough. We agreed on all.

[Spike 12,049]

. Sold Mata (still bitter)

. Rival fans are 'moulding' the minds of Chelsea fans with the 'Bus meme' epidemic

. Hazard fans are currently displeased (even though the Belgium coach criticised him for the same reasons)

• The lack of instant success like last time (unreasonable expectations).
• A lot of the humour he used to have is gone. Now he says some really weird shit to the media.
• Some boring results and matches.

People tend to overlook a few positives.

• Azpilicueta is now the best fullback in England/Wales.
• Chelsea 6 - 0 Arsenal
• Terry's return to form.
• Cahill's improvement.

[bushman 2,043]

Isn´t it bad enough to read about Jose being ridiculed in the UK media?

Somehow, we are subjected to read this cockiness here too.

How much longer is this gonna go on?

Was Jose perfect in every game played in this season? No, he was not.

Has he done well under the circumstances? Yes, he has.

[Spike 12,049]

There is no need to deal with extremes. Mourinho deserves both criticism and praise. Most people tend to be either in the black or white zones, sometimes it's best to meet in the middle.

[Fulham Broadway 16,967]

Looking back, Nov 2012 was bad, the last failing to win 3 games

Juve Away 0-3
City Home 0-0
Fulham Home 0-0

Nothing will ever be as bad as that and Rafa. To me Mourinho is the best thing to ever happen to Chelsea after all that Russian money, but people have to remember he is human, makes cringeworthy remarks now and then, but overall what team wouldnt have him ?

[The only place to be 11,313]

• The lack of instant success like last time (unreasonable expectations).

I do sometimes wonder if people forget that Roman's first season here was with Claudio as manager, not Jose. That team was pretty good (JT, Lamps, Makelele, Duff, Gallas, Cole, Eidur would be key players the next season) and Jose just took us to that next level with some key signings elsewhere.

We aren't there yet. This is the season where we lay the foundation, that was always the case. I think you're spot on that it was unreasonable to expect instant success because the reality is that it wasn't instantaneous in his first stint here.

We're talking about 2-3 signings to really cap this team off (arguably only the striker is an essential purchase if we want to properly challenge for the league).

[bushman 2,043]

Jose needs more than just a striker.

He needs around 60m or even more. Thank God he brought this team to the semis of the CL & 3rd place of the PL. Money accounted from his success, applied to buy more players, some duds shipped out, Happy times are here again. Ole Jose.

[DDA 9,703]

Mourinho fan boys wont accept he had a worse season that Benitez who not only had a terrible squad, but did not spend 100 million and was constantly under pressure from the fans. Playing style wise we have even regressed. Dont tell me Benitez did not win game becasue he won against Man Utd, Arsenal, Drew at Liverpool, Tottenham who had Bale, won the europa league with an injured Hazard and no bench cover, played on the counter just as Mou seems to play and overall his football was much better on the eye compared to this rubbish Mourinho has had us endure all season. I honestly wish we still had Carlo, he was not a drama queen, played good football and promoted the youth players too.

Mourinho fan boys!!!!?

Go fuck yourself with your childish 'fan boy' sayings and listen up meat head, you're saying the same shit that he said!

[Tomo 21,736]

Its funny how great our ex managers are when they go.

With Carlo it's like 10-11 and the stagnant, sterile, borderline comatose footy never happened. Don't get me wrong the double season was amazing, but the lack of blame Carlo gets for 10-11 is hilarious. That still to this day is the only season i was glad ended, infact it stripped a lot of my enthusiasm for the new season, usually im buzzing for the new campaign but that season drained me.

Rafa goes, and all off a sudden we played great/good football under him (it's bad enough the scousers have that fantasy, our own fans following suit beggars belief).

I wonder if the same people thought the same in 10-11 and when we lost at home to QPR!!!!!!

[Tomo 21,736]

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/premier-league/ballbesitz/wettbewerb_GB1.html

We have the highest ball possession in the league.

http://www.squawka.c...otal#desc#total

Filter by chances created, and you will see us 2nd. Not bad for a team that supposedly only plays defensive football, and has no creativity.

A couple of top strikers will sort this out. Eto'o has been good but can't play week in week out anymore, Ba and Torres hinder this team so much.

[Fernando 6,497]

Its funny how great our ex managers are when they go.

With Carlo it's like 10-11 and the stagnant, sterile, borderline comatose footy never happened. Don't get me wrong the double season was amazing, but the lack of blame Carlo gets for 10-11 is hilarious. That still to this day is the only season i was glad ended, infact it stripped a lot of my enthusiasm for the new season, usually im buzzing for the new campaign but that season drained me.

Rafa goes, and all off a sudden we played great/good football under him (it's bad enough the scousers have that fantasy, our own fans following suit beggars belief).

I wonder if the same people thought the same in 10-11 and when we lost at home to QPR!!!!!!

I think the main gripe for me is that people never defended the managers back then like they do now for Mourinho.

That Mourinho need "his type of players" to do any good.

Well why the hell didn't we say that for the past managers? That Carlo needed "his type of players" to be successful.

It all boils down to what AVB said, I'm good because I have a good team. As soon as I have a bad team I will be the shit one.

Now granted you need a little tactical nuance and man management skills to succeed in this business but having the right type of players is important!

So my question is, if we need a manager to have "his type of players" to do good, then why Roman and the board have one philosophy and Mourinho has another?

Cause clearly players like Mata, and KDB never suited his style. But to the board did.

Something just doesn't add up.

[Clevemayer 764]

perfectly put. well said.

thanks mate

[Clevemayer 764]

Its funny how great our ex managers are when they go.

With Carlo it's like 10-11 and the stagnant, sterile, borderline comatose footy never happened. Don't get me wrong the double season was amazing, but the lack of blame Carlo gets for 10-11 is hilarious. That still to this day is the only season i was glad ended, infact it stripped a lot of my enthusiasm for the new season, usually im buzzing for the new campaign but that season drained me.

Rafa goes, and all off a sudden we played great/good football under him (it's bad enough the scousers have that fantasy, our own fans following suit beggars belief).

I wonder if the same people thought the same in 10-11 and when we lost at home to QPR!!!!!!

Not much to add to this!

After Butch was gone, all went down the toilet for Carlo. I loved his cool nonchalant way to talk and to stand next to the byline but I couldn't any more of his "Ai ehm eppieh wisse skuadeh" at one point. He isn't that great a manager, he didn't even change Real, and I can't belive ppl. dont see this. This was pure Mourinho tactics against bayern, everyone as blind as a mole could see that. Defend and counterattack. Carlo is good for a team that is already perfectly set up but had a bust up with somebody. He comes in and just want everyone to feel good and "bie eppieh". He is no genius at all.

Mou is a different class, he is ready to fight with anybody for his belief of the game. And he wants everybody to be behind the team.

[Pizy 18,515]

Not much to add to this!

After Butch was gone, all went down the toilet for Carlo. I loved his cool nonchalant way to talk and to stand next to the byline but I couldn't any more of his "Ai ehm eppieh wisse skuadeh" at one point. He isn't that great a manager, he didn't even change Real, and I can't belive ppl. dont see this. This was pure Mourinho tactics against bayern, everyone as blind as a mole could see that. Defend and counterattack. Carlo is good for a team that is already perfectly set up but had a bust up with somebody. He comes in and just want everyone to feel good and "bie eppieh". He is no genius at all.

Mou is a different class, he is ready to fight with anybody for his belief of the game. And he wants everybody to be behind the team.

You trying to type in his accent makes him sound like he's got Down Syndrome.

[Tomo 21,736]

I think the main gripe for me is that people never defended the managers back then like they do now for Mourinho.

That Mourinho need "his type of players" to do any good.

Well why the hell didn't we say that for the past managers? That Carlo needed "his type of players" to be successful.

It all boils down to what AVB said, I'm good because I have a good team. As soon as I have a bad team I will be the shit one.

Now granted you need a little tactical nuance and man management skills to succeed in this business but having the right type of players is important!

So my question is, if we need a manager to have "his type of players" to do good, then why Roman and the board have one philosophy and Mourinho has another?

Cause clearly players like Mata, and KDB never suited his style. But to the board did.

Something just doesn't add up.

The board made the signing's before he got here, i think the RDM full time spell showed Roman that pretty football isn't pretty at all if the results don't follow, hench why Rafa was brought in, to get us CL footy and maybe a cup, object achieved but it weren't pretty.

Regarding Carlo, a lot of people here stuck up for him and often used the 'you lack loyalty' jibe to people that wanted him out. I wanted him to get another season to rectify it, but i do put a fair portion of the blame for that season on him, which is why it annoys me when i keep reading things implying that his tenure was all roses and sexy football, it wasn't.

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

Spoiled Brats FC

Next season will be a good one, it doesn't take long for Jose to get it right. The young players have some experience in losing a title race and CL semi final, it will only make them stringer and more determined

Lets be honest, most of us thought City would stroll the league this season.

We have been close to winning the league and been in the CL semi final, I didn't expect more than this.

Next season I expect us to win the league and at least reach the Semi finals again

[Fernando 6,497]

The board made the signing's before he got here, i think the RDM full time spell showed Roman that pretty football isn't pretty at all if the results don't follow, hench why Rafa was brought in, to get us CL footy and maybe a cup, object achieved but it weren't pretty.

Regarding Carlo, a lot of people here stuck up for him and often used the 'you lack loyalty' jibe to people that wanted him out. I wanted him to get another season to rectify it, but i do put a fair portion of the blame for that season on him, which is why it annoys me when i keep reading things implying that his tenure was all roses and sexy football, it wasn't.

I think this summer we shall see if this is true, that Roman has indeed changed his mind about sexy Fútbol.

Cause if Mourinho is bitching and moaning about the players we have in the second season then it has not changed.

Next season without a doubt is going to be pivotal for this project.