Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Of course it's because of Mourinho that Mata left. I had a few concerns with Chelsea re-hiring Mourinho and the first was that many of our players didn't fit Mourinho's system and Jose wasn't a very flexible manager. He has his system and that's what he always plays. He emphasizes defensive responsibility, pressure, and counter-attack and only players who fit into that system will have success and players who don't will be ousted. Mata was always a poor fit and it's not really a surprise that he's on the way out. We hired Mourinho and we are sticking with him so this is the result. There's no surprise here and long-term it makes no sense to have an elite player wasting away on your bench. His value to other teams is way greater than it is to us so we might as well maximize that to get players that fit. It is because of Mourinho, but he cant be blamed for it! Barbara and TorontoChelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Milan 17,963 Posted January 23, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yes Jose, we are 'really really calm in this transfer window, the market is open for other clubs, for us not so much.'Never trust this man when it comes to tranfers! Don't panic when he says we are not after any striker etc! Strike, 11Drogba, Rmpr and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Salah to Chelsea.Mata to United.United gets 4th spot.Suarez to Chelsea.Genius.Salah to Chelsea.Mata to United.Liverpool gets 4th place.Rooney to Chelsea.Genius. One of Rooney or Suarez will join us in the summer. Heard it here first.Sorry to bust your bubble but Suarez release clause is 100m for English teams and 60m for European teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yes Jose, we are 'really really calm in this transfer window, the market is open for other clubs, for us not so much.'Never trust this man when it comes to tranfers! Don't panic when he says we are not after any striker etc!LOL, he always does it!Only the fanboys trust what he says in his press conferences. Jose is the best at manipulating the media! Stingray and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 23, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fucking hell, Jose! I can't study for 15 minutes without us signing or selling someone. If I fail my exams, I blame you! xPetrCechx, darrus, Blueman and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrcfc 461 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Sorry to bust your bubble but Suarez release clause is 100m for English teams and 60m for European teamsNope, 80m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Out: Mata, De Bruyne, Bertrand, Essien (?), Ba (?)In: Matic, Salah, new defender (?), new CF (?)Some of these have already happened and some are heavily rumoured. Mourinho turned this January window into real life Football Manager, players coming and going like crazy. Stingray and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 So all that change in philosophy in our playing style was all BS then. Too bad.I'm not complaining about the results that it'll give us...but we've already been there, done that. Mata was practically made for that kind of football. Well, at least I know to never take José at face value again. I was looking forward to the change, even if that meant taking a few losses along the way.So just because our philosophy is not possession based it means we're playing boring football? right... Barbara, kellzfresh and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It makes me laugh those who are slagging of some of the posters here as Mata fan boys or Plastic fans because they said something that was not praising Mourinho all the time are in themselves not Chelsea fans but just Mourinho worshipers who think of him first before the club Gilvorak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 23, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 23, 2014 So just because our philosophy is not possession based it means we're playing boring football? right...Exactly!!People just assume everyone loves possession football. I very much prefer quick counter football. I think the bayern vs dortmund champs league final was one of the best uefa final. And it was between two teams who play quick counter attacking football. How bayern played last season on the counter with robben and ribery terrorizing on the wings is how I pray we play. Not passing for 10mins just because you can. Muzchap, HD3D, Pacquiao and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,590 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Exactly!!People just assume everyone loves possession football. I very much prefer quick counter football. I think the bayern vs dortmund champs league final was one of the best uefa final. And it was between two teams who play quick counter attacking football. How bayern played last season on the counter with robben and ribery terrorizing on the wings is how I pray we play.Not passing for 10mins just because you can.What about the UEFA super cup against Bayern? We counter attack and they just attack and attack and attack.I love that shit!It was amazing, total futbol from Bayern, not that boring tiki taka from Barcelona. kellzfresh, Muzchap and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 David Luiz gonna be sold next, probably our last expensive departure under Jose. Maybe £30-£40m from Barca as well, use the money to sign Shaw, Zouma and then left over for a top class striker like Costa in the summer. The only other big name leaving is probably Cech if Courtois is recalled, but it appears Jose don't give a fuck about that so we might sell Courtois for like 25m or swap with Costa or something.GK: Hilario leavingDef: Luiz leaving probably, Cole too, Bertrands career here is also overMid: Essien definitely, maybe Mikel if he isn't needed for the next 6 months, Josh as well and a lot of loanneAtt: Eto'o 100%, Torres hopefully even though impossible, Ba probablyThe likes of Shaw, Zouma, Costa/Martinez/Rooney or any top class striker coming in. CANNOT WAIT FOR THE FUTURE UNDER OUR BEST MANAGER EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I don't think Luiz will go, he has unlike Mata changed Joses mind about him, he now think he's great player. He can't go anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christo191 173 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fucking hell, Jose! I can't study for 15 minutes without us signing or selling someone. If I fail my exams, I blame you! Same here mate! The_Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 David Luiz gonna be sold next, probably our last expensive departure under Jose. Maybe £30-£40m from Barca as well, use the money to sign Shaw, Zouma and then left over for a top class striker like Costa in the summer. The only other big name leaving is probably Cech if Courtois is recalled, but it appears Jose don't give a fuck about that so we might sell Courtois for like 25m or swap with Costa or something.GK: Hilario leavingDef: Luiz leaving probably, Cole too, Bertrands career here is also overMid: Essien definitely, maybe Mikel if he isn't needed for the next 6 months, Josh as well and a lot of loanneAtt: Eto'o 100%, Torres hopefully even though impossible, Ba probablyThe likes of Shaw, Zouma, Costa/Martinez/Rooney or any top class striker coming in. CANNOT WAIT FOR THE FUTURE UNDER OUR BEST MANAGER EVER.If we lose Ba, Etoo and Torres who we going to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themethodist 23 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 People tend to forget rather quickly and be without respect to those who have achieved never-seen results in the club's history. You can organize something uniform, but if you lose your creativity and personality with selling the grey cells, you will never win anything. The more people keep on saying you-know-who knows better, the more people will believe that they think the same and approve such a dumb act like selling the player who belongs to our history in an organic way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 23, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 23, 2014 So just because our philosophy is not possession based it means we're playing boring football? right...I actually think possession football is boring as fuck... I hate watching Spain and Barce-yawn-lona play... sdrcfc, nofacej, kellzfresh and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 If we lose Ba, Etoo and Torres who we going to play?Diego Costa or Jackson Martinez or Rooney along with Lukaku sdrcfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Please not Rooney :/ Christo191 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 People tend to forget rather quickly and be without respect to those who have achieved never-seen results in the club's history. You can organize something uniform, but if you lose your creativity and personality with selling the grey cells, you will never win anything. The more people keep on saying you-know-who knows better, the more people will believe that they think the same and approve such a dumb act like selling the player who belongs to our history in an organic way.He was our best player in our 2 worst seasons ???Yes he's goodBUT the team looks much better now - anybody can see that. Teams win trophies!!!I'm gutted he went to Man U - but that's life, I wish him well and no luck at all to the Mancs.Take it on the chin. It's got nothing to do with brainwashing - it's called 'manning the fuck up' - life is cruel and unfair, the quicker you realise that, the better! Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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