The Mourinho Thread

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Chelsea have always been a club that when there's a leak whether it's player unrest or transfer requests they are usually pretty accurate. The story is that a player told a journalist who then told Gary Richardson about the alleged quote. Now Richardson says all this on BBC 5 Live this morning. Richardson says he knows the journalist well and believes him 100%. Now Richardson would then not go on the radio and say this if there wasn't an element of truth in it. He would have to be a complete bell end to say something like that just to basically shit stir and muck rake he's not Adrian Durham after all.

[Oscar 441]

No chance Terry would ever say something like that. Guy is a winner whoever is in charge

Didn't Maks say that JT was a big reason why Jose got sacked the first time around?

[bethos1 802]

If all this stuff is true about players not wanting to win for Jose, The simple thing would to be dropped them surely, I mean he must have some idea whole dont want to fight for him??

There are only two players that i can really see being that much of a cunt and they are Fabregas and Hazard

Hazard being a cunt? Really? Hazard? He's like one of the nicest guys...

[Adnane 1,101]

Except that Costa didn't do much harm against Liverpool.

In fact his hit in the second half is just a response to Skrtel's elbow in the first half ( who everyone clearly saw and which would've been probably blown out of proportions in the media had been it the other way round )

[Oscar 441]

Pedro, Oscar or Matic.

It could also be Remy and Falcao too...

Cesc is another option. I highly doubt it is anyone on the backline though or one of the young kids...

Hazard seems like a person that wouldn't care enough to say this type of statement. However, I could imagine those 3 +Cesc saying something along that line.

[bethos1 802]

https://mobile.twitter.com/danlevene/status/660795099950006272

Would make a lot more sense if an agent said it.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

My money is on Matic.

But that's not relevant. I agree that whoever did this was being unprofessional. One thing we're forgetting is that we have ZERO idea of what is going on behind the closed doors. What we have seen though is a manager acting in an angry, paranoid, and childish manner for most of the season.

And this relates to people's argument regarding Jose not imploding Madrid in his first season there. I'm absolutely in shock how anyone can make that argument. People are very focused on results. What is very obvious is that Mourinho lost control of more or less the entire dressing room in that season.

This isn't something new. We've all seen it before with Mourinho.

[quickpassnmove 924]

Cesc, Matic or Hazard. If it's true at all.

Whoever it is send him out, if it's true.

No. send the manager out.

[Henrique 9,133]

Come on guy, this is getting ridiculous. Its pretty clear many players are not behind Mourinho, and its silly discussing if that report is true or not, and quoting players public backing him to prove your point doesn't make any sense.

Those players are not backing Mourinho, they never decided to go to press and back him, actually all of those quotes "backing" Mourinho are just answear to questions. Someone ask a player if he is behind Mourinho. You expect him to say "no"?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like the quote has been made up. In which case, the player who said it needs to go regardless of the Jose situation. We just can't have those ego-maniac sorts in a blue shirt.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

It's a very delicate situation though, what will happen the next time the players won't like their manager?

José does need to work things out with the players, and then Abramovic would need to make it clear to players and manager how to behave.

If he steps down jsut because the players don't like him anymore it would set a dangerous precedent with the players.

This is al very childish from people that gets paid an absurd amount of money.

Mourinho only has himself to blame for that. He constantly went looking for conflicts even with his own staff and players.

It's actually quite an achievement from Mourinho to turn this group of players against him. I mean there's not a single player in this group that has a bad personality.

All of them have amiable, easygoing personalities, yet somehow he's managed to turn them against him and apparently even had one of them go as far as say he'd rather lose then win for Mourinho.

Seriously how did Mourinho manage that ?

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

I can hear the cries..

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

Time for a mole hunt?

Casillas --> Matic?

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

[Gappy 130]

From what i have seen .

Azpi, Cesc, Hazard, Ramires, Oscar always hang out together outside the football time

They always photo together when party of whatever

Azpi and Hazard were a great friend from what they told last season

With Azpi attitude he was no doubt to do his best for the team

Lately I still saw them picture together so none of them will be that Judas

Out of this list Ivanovic, Terry, Cahill even Costa have no doubt how hard they try to fight in every single game.

Costa behavior at Liverpool show how he manage his temper and he never stop chasing the ball he battled for it all the time

So yes the last man that I doubt too, It should be him

Mr. Happy Man Zouma !!! lol no way in hell

Matic may be but who know? May be it's just BS story.

[quickpassnmove 924]

Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like the quote has been made up. In which case, the player who said it needs to go regardless of the Jose situation. We just can't have those ego-maniac sorts in a blue shirt.

If it were Branislav, it would work out fine to just dump the player and the manager.

Would be sad if the player were revealed and it were Cesc TBH because I think he can still be a great player under the correct manager. He wants to play quick-passing football, dynamic, attacking. Jose doesn't allow it to evolve.

The whole thing stinks. Thanks Jose M.

No future.

[Peace. 4,352]

Definitely, the problems at least started at the start of the year and that Tottenham game. After the said game, everything went wrong and we went on to grind victories. At the time, because we were lacking insight it was impossible to realize how huge the problem was ; and instead we took that for a bad moment and we hailed the grinded victories as the sign of the champion. Although once we were officially champions, everything started to go completely south. It started with the three last games of the season that were more than mixed results. One could have said that it was a well deserved rest but our pre-season was even worse. And as soon as we started the league season, the total implosion started with that infamous game against Swansea highlighted by Mourinho throwing Eva his toys out of the club pram.

What we are witnessing now his not the result of something that happened this summer. That is not because of a bad transfert window ; not because of a late pre-season ; not because some players decided the job was done and that one league title is enough. As I have mentionned above, our problems started at least since that Tottenham game. We held together because there was a title to be won, so we were able to go from one grinded victory to another grinded victory — and that was painful. And once the joint aim was achieved, all parts started to dislocate and we reached to current situation where nothing works anymore — as the only element allowing that broken machine to work is no longer here, that is a title at within reach.

I will even say that the problems started earlier than that Tottenham game. If we had a positive start of the season, it is most certainly due to the addition of Fabregas and Costa, which have brought positivity and breath of fresh air. But once the novelty became no longer new, and that these two players took the fold, we started to strongly decline : this is the moment we entered the second part of the season...

One could then hypothesizes that the problem is even older than the previous summer and take his roots within the first season. Therefore, the addition of Costa and Fabregas momentarily broke a decline that started that season ; and as I have said, as soon as the fresh air became a stale air, our form started to decline once again. Maybe that what happened with Ba, Mata, Eto'o, Luiz and KdB (and possibly Salah, Lukaku and Schurlle ?) is a huge factor in our current situation — a situation where there is clearly a clivage between the management team and the players. We could also think that the siege mentality and the negative football has taken the tool out of them...

That is only, of course, speculation. Yet the it is certain that the problem goes beyond purely sportive aspects. Rumours and quotes circulating are maybe inflated and more sensational than true ; nonetheless they are evoquing areal problem, that is a toxic atmosphere in the dressing room. And we seem to go the Madrid patern..

[Reddish-Blue 2,510]

I think Guardiola will just stay at Bayern until Wenger retires or Pellegrini is sacked by City

[zolayes 14,489]

Thanks @Peace for an analytical view of the reasons for our current state ,, In addition to the Spurs game I would also mention the Bradford melt down ,,

That followed by the Spurs seemed to trigger a chain reaction .. imo there is no way he can turn this round .. This is not player power either , It is a manager losing the respect

of his players .

[Eidur the Spider 4,515]

I'm starting to wonder how great the Drogba influence was in terms of motivation last season.