The Mourinho Thread

[Rhino's Skin 972]

...and if you have paid attention to what I said, if we do somehow, that's because our form must have improved. Our current form will not win us trophies, we can't win consecutively in a competition yet.

but we can win 3 games on the trot regardless of competition

[Rhino's Skin 972]

I guess you think humans are like robots. Okay.

"my hovercraft is full of eels"

actually I think footballers are time warped across the interstellar world of many galaxys to confuse and trick brains like yours into saying the most ridiculous things.

Thank gawd Mourinho is our Doctor Who and can hopefully make sense of them.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Really, everyone should read that fair and balanced Squawka article I posted by Greg Johnson. Mourinho fans will have serious problems refuting that. Bang on the money on most of his points.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I guess you think humans are like robots. Okay.

So because he came up with a decent response you just slate his opinion instead....

There is no reason for someone to lose their character because they are a few years older. This team should have won the last 3 games comfortably, played like it even, but we've been denied and we'll have to live with it for now. We will start winning very soon, I'm certain of it.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

I guess you didn't understand what I meant by that comment. Nonetheless, speak for yourself.

actually it was tongue in cheek as I thought yours was.

Didnt think the robot comment was serious to be honest

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I only came up with that answer because he was also slaying me saying things like I'm struggling with facts. But obviously you didn't see that because you are siding with him and Mourinho. So yeah.

And yes they do lose their ability when they get older. Maybe they still have their character in their minds, but their bodies won't make them go that far like it used to.

Mikel is 28, Rambo is 28, JT still has it, and Cahill is in his prime. And we have the French incredible Hulk, Costa, Willian, and Dave who give absolutely everything they can irrespective of the context the match is in.

I did read the facts jibe just now. Sorry, wasn't aware of that.

[Tomo 21,751]

Making a youth argument for keeping Mourinho?

That is hilarious

No one is saying Jose is the best in the world in that regard but people go over the top at how "bad" he is.

If Pellegrini gave Patrick Roberts 3 starts and regularly include him in the 18 at this stage like Mou has done for RLC, the same people slating Mou would be in the English football thread prasing Pellegrini to high heaven for slowly introducing a gem.

If any other manager threw on a 17 year old in a title decider like Mou did, constant praise.

He was the one who integrated Mikel, Varane and Zouma, yes they cost but price tag didn't make AVB play Lukaku or Fergie play Zaha. He also played Hugh despite having Terry, Gallas and Carvalho, if Pel played a young CB semi regularly with Kompany, Mangala and Otemendi available he would again get constant praise.

He could have done better regarding youth in his career for sure, but people widely exaggerate it.

[Tomo 21,751]

But in 2012, we had warriors and characters. This season, we are clueless, spineless and gutless most of these games. And in 2012, we never been in a horrible form as bad as THIS. Stop comparing to 2012.

Yes I'm not God, and I can't predict the future but history shows that a team that has been in this worse form hasn't gone on to win anything. If we somehow win anything by the end of this season, that's because our form must have improved. We can't even string 2 straight PL wins/2 straight CL wins together.

Yes we were, after beating City in December we won 4 games in 15 in the league, in 10/11 we won 4 in 14 which included a 1 in 9 run in that spell, 12/13 we went SEVEN games without a league win and only 2 wins in 12 in all comps, one of which was after extra time vs United ressies, so if we count 90 minutes we only won once in 12, and to extend further that was a last minute winner.

The only difference now is the run is happening at the start so it's showing in the table, but those runs mentioned were just as catastrophic and damaging as this one, and that was with all the old guard in (bar Drogba on 12/13).

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Regardless of where you stand on Mourinho, the 'stability' argument is a very weak one. The man almost personifies volatility and instability!

[Tomo 21,751]

Anyway back to Jose Mourinho.

My brain says he should remain until the end of the season, unless 1) by miracle we actually turn it around or 2) this current form continues for months then boom, sack.

But honestly, my heart says he must go now. But not for the reasons most of you are thinking. Now before you go all "MOURINHO HATER!" on me, I am really not a hater of Mourinho. At his best, he is a genius. But he has lost it so far this season.

He needs a year off football. When his head is right, maybe we can get him back but it definitely looks like he needs a year off football. Mourinho is a human just like us, we don't know what's going on in his personal life. There is one problem that we all know though, it's his father's illness. And we all know, the media and the FA isn't helping him one bit, in fact they may make it worse for Mourinho. The stress of Chelsea losing, "what if I get the sack?", the Eva incident and the negative media is building inside of him. That has to explain why he is so negative at the moment. He is not handling the pressure well.

Mourinho needs to sit back, reflect and sort out all his problems. Come back to football refreshed. I'm again, not a hater of Mourinho, in fact this shows that I actually care for Jose Mourinho.

Two seasons ago, he came back to the PL as "the happy one". Now, he is "the moaning one" in many people's eyes. Where is the happy one? I want the happy one back!

People want what's best for the club, and while some think Mourinho is the best for the club and some think not, how about what's best for Jose Mourinho for a change?

"Love" is nothing in football now people say. I agree with them to some extent, but before Mourinho's second spell, we saw some hints that Mourinho still cared for Chelsea. That's love right there. And I'll always respect him for it. Yes I did express my anger towards Jose before calling him childish and all, but that was before I opened my eyes - he was childish mind you, but I didn't see the real reason why. If there is a way, someway for him to take a year off football and him coming back to us as manager, I'll take it.

Tbh that doesn't sound a bad idea in theory, but can you imagine that idea being put to Jose to take a year or two off and come back in summer 2017? Not to mention the fact that the 'stand in' could (unlikely but possible) revolutionise the club like Jose himself did in the mid 00's, how could we let him go.

It would take an expert negotiator for him to potentially even consider it for a second.

[stroey 2,525]

Jamie Carragher has had his say on Jose Mourinho's position at Chelsea, insisting he is "too good" and shouldn't be sacked

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/10047240/jamie-carragher-on-why-he-would-not-sack-jose-mourinho-at-chelsea

[Adnane 1,101]

But...but.... The guy can't coach a football team anymore

But... I thought the 50-70 experts here had more knowledge in football than Ancelotti, Ferguson, Carragher, Lampard, Bilic, Hughes and co.

But... He's destroying the club, and is solely working for his own personal benefit

Because Guardiola of all people actually lives and breathes about Bavaria at the moment

The Mourinho moaning was going to happen anyways, he is the kind of personnality that divides people.

The main issue is, people who are moaning about him for months now, didn't happen to be right, they just moaned at the exact perfect time : sloppy preparation, disastrous transfer window, weak players mentally.

It's not José's fault that Matic can't play two good games in a row, that Cesc can't protect his ball or that Ivanovic can't win a 1v1 for his life anymore, yeah, it's the coach's responsibility to ensure this kind of guys are at their best, but they were a few months ago.

It's not his fault that Cesc, Hazard and mostly Costa report back to pre-season overweight, we also don't know how much of a say he has in transfers, so until anyone has an official document stating that José is the ultimate decider when it comes to buying and selling players, it isn't only his fault ( I'd even tend to say the opposite, as the guy kept shouting that he doesn't want Cech to leave to Arsenal and the guy did anyway... ).

Too bad, you guys happened to moan at the exact perfect time for your theory to "seem" plausible, with the bad results we are encountering.

[Muzchap 8,966]

But...but.... The guy can't coach a football team anymore

But... I thought the 50-70 experts here had more knowledge in football than Ancelotti, Ferguson, Carragher, Lampard, Bilic, Hughes and co.

But... He's destroying the club, and is solely working for his own personal benefit

Because Guardiola of all people actually lives and breathes about Bavaria at the moment

Just wow!

Well I guess this forum should be changed to Talkmourinho - as that's all people are bothered about supporting.

Chelsea existed long before and will exist long after.

Call me unstable, call me whatever you want - but I support Chelsea. I have seen through our Manager - if you haven't, well, some people are slower than others in life right...

The guy is NOT Chelsea, has never been Chelsea - the guy is only ever about Mourinho. And yes - Pep is the same and a load of other managers - difference is they don't pretend otherwise to manipulate the fickle gullible fans.

He needs to go - nothing will improve if he stays and we will end up in a worse position the longer he is here.

Shit football, shit transfers and continual public spats with the FA, Press and anybody else he can blame losing on...

[Adnane 1,101]

He needs to go - nothing will improve if he stays and we will end up in a worse position the longer he is here.

I won't argue much with you, as your posts have really been OTT in my opinion for the last couple of days, I respect your opinion.

But there's just one thing, I'm glad the board aren't reacting like you guys, that means I'm glad you will witness him staying and turning this around.

And don't worry, I'm not the kind who says that now just to say "See I said that" then, just making a point, I'll be here around talkchelsea jubilating, just like you, beacuse I know how much quality we got in our staff and players

[Pseudo 92]

Good article :

http://www.squawka.com/news/jose-mourinho-chelsea-self-preservation-society/501912

This is all that needs to be said in regards to what we're facing right now.

The same thing happened in his last season in Madrid. A team that was high flying, became a shadow of themselves the following season.. He was figured out and didn't know how to adjust his tactics. So he decided to deflect, and throw players like Ozil under the bus.

Then he started yapping on about conspiracies and all that.To get out of the mess he created, he started talking nonsense about how he wanted to go where he is loved and saying all types of crazy stuff so Perez had no choice but to fire him.

I can't find it, but there's a press conference he did during his last weeks at Madrid where he completely loses it. Talking about how he is Madrid's most successful manager in years. He even pulls out some documents to prove his point. It was worse than Rafa's "Facts" rant. Very cringe worthy.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Eva has refused an out of court settlement so there's a real possibility of Mourinho being called to give evidence. The media will go into meltdown if that happens a very tricky time for Chelsea. Personally I think as soon as they see the video of the ref calling her and Fearn on it's a fate accompli.

[Muzchap 8,966]

I won't argue much with you, as your posts have really been OTT in my opinion for the last couple of days, I respect your opinion.

But there's just one thing, I'm glad the board aren't reacting like you guys, that means I'm glad you will witness him staying and turning this around.

And don't worry, I'm not the kind who says that now just to say "See I said that" then, just making a point, I'll be here around talkchelsea jubilating, just like you, beacuse I know how much quality we got in our staff and players

No worries - I'm just proper anti-mou at the min!

I have no doubt that our team motivated and playing well would be nearer the top of the table and that's what I cannot accept

[iseah100 5,612]

Eva has refused an out of court settlement so there's a real possibility of Mourinho being called to give evidence. The media will go into meltdown if that happens a very tricky time for Chelsea. Personally I think as soon as they see the video of the ref calling her and Fearn on it's a fate accompli.

She's so annoying. Like chill, just take severance and shut the fuck up

[Henrique 9,133]

But...but.... The guy can't coach a football team anymore

But... I thought the 50-70 experts here had more knowledge in football than Ancelotti, Ferguson, Carragher, Lampard, Bilic, Hughes and co.

But... He's destroying the club, and is solely working for his own personal benefit

Because Guardiola of all people actually lives and breathes about Bavaria at the moment

The Mourinho moaning was going to happen anyways, he is the kind of personnality that divides people.

The main issue is, people who are moaning about him for months now, didn't happen to be right, they just moaned at the exact perfect time : sloppy preparation, disastrous transfer window, weak players mentally.

It's not José's fault that Matic can't play two good games in a row, that Cesc can't protect his ball or that Ivanovic can't win a 1v1 for his life anymore, yeah, it's the coach's responsibility to ensure this kind of guys are at their best, but they were a few months ago.

It's not his fault that Cesc, Hazard and mostly Costa report back to pre-season overweight, we also don't know how much of a say he has in transfers, so until anyone has an official document stating that José is the ultimate decider when it comes to buying and selling players, it isn't only his fault ( I'd even tend to say the opposite, as the guy kept shouting that he doesn't want Cech to leave to Arsenal and the guy did anyway... ).

Too bad, you guys happened to moan at the exact perfect time for your theory to "seem" plausible, with the bad results we are encountering.

But, but, but, its not Mourinho fault.

But, but, but, but, Mourinho won the league last season.

But, but, but, but, Carragher say he is the best in the world.

But, but, but, but, someone else is sayin he is the best and will turn things around.

But, but, but he loves the club.

But, but, but, he will turn things around.

But, but, but, he will turn things around.

But, but, but, but, its not his fault.

But, but, but, but, all I can write about Mourinho is, but, but.

But, but, but, butt

Butt, butt, butt, butter.

Butter, butter, butter, butterfly.

Butterfly, butterfly, butterfly.Fly.

Fly away, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to get way, I want to get away.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvuL5jyCHOw

[Starman60 1,343]

just because you got your facts wrong....;-)

Still think it is a shoite statement to be used nowadays

And as far taking it seriously....I was the one telling others not to and there is more to life than football and Chelsea before you jumped in with that cliched comment

Anyway reference Chelsea you are not the only one who has seen the highs and lows except some of us don't feel the need to put on here unless questioned about it

So, at the end of the day..who gives a toss.

As long as Mourinho and the team relax, enjoy playing the game and just get on with it. One of these days very soon.....the team is going to muller someone by several goals.....lets hope it Saturday lunchtime

You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am.. You seem to have taken it that I live by this quote (which I don't!!) When Shankley said it, yes, he meant it tongue in cheek.......and that's the way you should have taken it too.

As for "jumping in" as you put it.......This is a forum where people post comments. Whether they are right or wrong they are the comments (cliched or not!) of Chelsea fans. I won't rubbish any persons comments on here because everyone is entitled to their say. You felt the need to take umbrage with my "cliched comment". If you don't want me "Jumping in" then perhaps open forums are not the place to be!!

And my reference to the "Highs and lows" is just to point out that I have seen much tougher times than we are going through now. I am proud to support Chelsea and always have been, and if I cannot post my memories of worse times on here, then where would you like me to post them?

And as for Chelsea mullering someone soon??? Not the way we are playing at present I feel. That's my opinion, but if they do I will bow to your superior knowledge of the game....And I really do hope you are right and it is against Liverpool. KTBFFH