quickpassnmove 924 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 WHY THE FUCK IS HE STILL HERE!!! the club has shoved itself in a corner. and we are screwed. well done jose, well done.when he gets fired, the January window will be a nice time to find at least one other excellent CM and the next manager might know how to run rotation and work in youth while giving the overall squad confidence in build-up play.hired a dud manager and lost KDB, but the future still can be bright.I'm more concerned about the idiot decision by the board and/or director to prematurely re-sign this manager. We seem to have a good scouting network, so I'll take that as a shining plus. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 when he gets fired, the January window will be a nice time to find at least one other excellent CM and the next manager might know how to run rotation and work in youth while giving the overall squad confidence in build-up play.hired a dud manager and lost KDB, but the future still can be bright.I'm more concerned about the idiot decision by the board and/or director to prematurely re-sign this manager. We seem to have a good scouting network, so I'll take that as a shining plus.Never seen a title winning manager be called a dud before.We will bounce back but if we go out of the CL, the COC, and lose against Pool I think the board will lose patience. But as of now I think we will win all of those games. We could have scored for against WHU had a couple of decisions gone our way and luck smiled at us for once - same as against Kiev, and we have some heart in performances now. We will see. MichaelDance, kmk108, Rhino's Skin and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,864 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Rhino's Skin and zolaeyes...I will ask you once and once only...Stay on topic and and get away from this petty nit-picking at each other please. Henrique and MichaelDance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Never seen a title winning manager be called a dud before.We will bounce back but if we go out of the CL, the COC, and lose against Pool I think the board will lose patience. But as of now I think we will win all of those games. We could have scored for against WHU had a couple of decisions gone our way and luck smiled at us for once - same as against Kiev, and we have some heart in performances now. We will see.I believe the number one objective of Chelsea and Jose at the outset of this second term was to build a future, a strong foundation for the club. something to propel Chelsea. that certainly isn't translating onto the pitch with how Chelsea have played under Jose, so yes, a title (in a season where other clubs fell short TBH), but also a dud manager for the utmost goal of the club. zolayes and Amblève. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Pep Guardiola could be in running for Chelsea job if Jose Mourinho is axedhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11954001/Chelsea-attempt-to-gauge-if-Pep-Guardiola-can-be-persuaded-to-accept-job-if-they-axe-Jose-Mourinho.htmlLike he would leave a job as easy as Bayerns to come to our shit house. zolayes, Starman60 and Iggy Doonican 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I believe the number one objective of Chelsea and Jose at the outset of this second term was to build a future, a strong foundation for the club. something to propel Chelsea. that certainly isn't translating onto the pitch with how Chelsea have played under Jose, so yes, a title (in a season where other clubs fell short TBH), but also a dud manager for the utmost goal of the club.I wouldn't say that he has failed in that aspect much. If you look at the squad he inherited, which was basically CechIva Cahill Terry Cole Mikel RamiOscar Mata Hazard Torreshe has improved it exponentially. If Jose manages to ride out his 3rd season hoodoo and gets us winning again I think he will be around for a very long time (although a big if). And he can play good football, obviously after getting us winning that will be the next goal. I suspect he will get another defensive right back to allow Cesc to play deep again without leaving us horribly exposed.Just for reference, this is the team we will probably see from 16/17. And once it returns to form this season I believe we can easily recover this season and come at least top 4 - first place is only 9 points away. Courtois (RB) Cahill Zouma Azpi Cesc Matic Willian Oscar Hazard CostaNow imo the good outweighs the bad decisions here. Yes, Mata and KdB are gone and Oscar is still here BUTHe ousted Cech for an even better keeper, a monumental task. Renewed JT's career again, kicked off Zouma's, got rid of Cole, put Azpi in the side, he brought in Cesc (who is just now recovering his form) and Matic (he seems lost, but he is capable of being a midfield monster), moulded Hazard into one of the top 5 in the world, and brought in Costa to a team that needed a striker more than anything.From what I hear the club will put up with no CL football next year and keep Jose if it comes to it - unless we get relegated or other extraordinary event occurs I believe that the club will stick with him. Adnane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Pep Guardiola could be in running for Chelsea job if Jose Mourinho is axedhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11954001/Chelsea-attempt-to-gauge-if-Pep-Guardiola-can-be-persuaded-to-accept-job-if-they-axe-Jose-Mourinho.htmlkey word in that article.....intermediarys.i.e. agents/ brokers who have sweet f.a. to do with either manager or club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 INFAMY INFAMY they've all got it in for me .. Starman60 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! bababoom 4,478 Posted October 25, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 25, 2015 The plus with Pep is that we will actually play like a big team, can you imagine actually dominating possession against the big boys? the last time we forced a big team to sit deep was when we had Rafa and played United at Old Trafford, Mata, Oscar and Hazard were all sublime that day. The last few months ive been slowly getting tired of watching our shit on a stick football, whether it's parking the bus or being on the front foot but unable to string two to three passes together, it's just so frustrating to watch. Hybrid Angel, Iggy Doonican, The Skipper and 18 others 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Timmy Sherwoody confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 makes you wonder if the board do decide to terminate his contract, whether they could give him a reduced severence due to breaches in contract by himThe board love their interim managers and we have been reasonably successful under the loads we have had from Grant, Hiddink, RdM and Benitez.from FA cups to European glory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 The plus with Pep is that we will actually play like a big team, can you imagine actually dominating possession against the big boys? Naah impossible, we never do bababoom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 There is no fire without smoke, I think he is in big trouble, he have to win to save his job. Can't believe how we are in this situation. I feel for all.Trouble is that if we do happen to beat Liverpool...then what." has to beat such and such to save his job" until the team loses?Its not a case of beating anybody....if the board want rid they will do it regardless Adnane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Adnane 1,101 Posted October 25, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 25, 2015 He ousted Cech for an even better keeper, a monumental task. Renewed JT's career again, kicked off Zouma's, got rid of Cole, put Azpi in the side, he brought in Cesc (who is just now recovering his form) and Matic (he seems lost, but he is capable of being a midfield monster), moulded Hazard into one of the top 5 in the world, and brought in Costa to a team that needed a striker more than anything. This post should be pinned in the Home Talk Chelsea Forums page, absolutely spot on mate Players and manager are perfoming awfully atm, stand by them, they deserve a chance, it's their first big fuck up as a group That's what I said post Southampton, and unlike what people like to believe here, we did improve, not dramatically enough to turn the whole season around, yesterday was one of those games where we could have fielded Messi-Ronaldo in front of Modric* and still lost the game, but I can see the end of the tunnel if the players and manager stay together.KTBFFH, forever and always ! *Holy Fuck iceboy, Thendo, Blue Armour and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,374 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I would sacrifice my penis to see Pep in charge of Chelsea at this point.Imagine what he'd do with Hazard, Willian, and Oscar. I think he'd bench both Cesc and Pedro and use them as his trusted subs with which he has an excellent report. He'd play with proper fullbacks, we'd obviously bring in more proactive CB's, another CM, and play with an attacking mindset (like a big club).He'd bring instant class, dignity, and positivity that we're in need of.Impossible dream I feel, though. It would take such a huge amount of work to make this a "Guardiola" side that I doubt he'd consider it. Muzchap, zolayes, couris and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Possession football is dying slowly, u can see Bayern against big fish in Europe, they keep the ball 70% but in the end they are loosing the match.And winning about 80% of their league matches over the last 2 years (not including this season's 100% winning record). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Let's not believe the lazy journos I think if Mou was gonna be gone - it would have happened already.Unless the club are waiting to see what the FA say. If Mou gets a stadium ban - I could well see a case for breach of contract, as he is not able to fulfil his managerial obligations - through disciplinary action It's like you work for a company, but get put on curfew - you can't go to work - so your employer terminates your employment for breach. You are not entitled to any recompense - except for any work already accrued. The same situation could (and probably should) be applied to Mourinho. Big call though for the club. Would be better if Mou just resigns. Such a shit situation all round - we have turned into the McLaren of Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Let's bring back Sacchi or Saf back from retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Let's not believe the lazy journos I think if Mou was gonna be gone - it would have happened already.Unless the club are waiting to see what the FA say. If Mou gets a stadium ban - I could well see a case for breach of contract, as he is not able to fulfil his managerial obligations - through disciplinary action It's like you work for a company, but get put on curfew - you can't go to work - so your employer terminates your employment for breach. You are not entitled to any recompense - except for any work already accrued. The same situation could (and probably should) be applied to Mourinho. Big call though for the club. Would be better if Mou just resigns. Such a shit situation all round - we have turned into the McLaren of Football didnt think he could get a stadium ban for this as it was different circumstances.However, I agree about breaches in contract and posted above about possibilty of a reduced severance package due to this Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 didnt think he could get a stadium ban for this as it was different circumstances.However, I agree about breaches in contract and posted above about possibilty of a reduced severance package due to thisNothing is ever 'not possible' with the bloody FA All ex UTD, Arsenal, Spuds etc - they love nothing more than fucking us over That's why Mou infuriates me so much - never give these fuckers ammunition - they always find the target They have already given him a suspended punishment this season - now they will be free to throw the book at him.It kills me knowing they are rubbing their hands together about this and 'we' let it happen zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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