The Mourinho Thread

[Chelsea Buzz 487]

I do admire your optimism and like I said to @Iceboy - I will gladly eat my words, buy I just don't see it happening.

Something is broken in Jose's mind and he can't seem to move forward. He's no longer a dynamic manager. He's too predictable and has no attacking prowess.

Not one shot on target in the second half at home vs Southampton says it all. It's been a steady decline since the start of the year

I just don't see him recovering

We are scoring at a lower clip than in 2013-14 with Torres/Eto'o/Ba up top. You are unfortunately correct in your assessment of Jose's attacking prowess, little to none. He has never been identified as an attacking genius certainly. The defending has been beyond shocking. I just cannot believe that Felipe Luis was so bad at LB that we could not move Azpilicueta to RB, but I digress.

In hindsight, we probably saw hints of the 2015-16 issues towards the end of 2013-14. In the last 14 matches (all BPL matches after the 1-0 win at the Etihad), we were only 9-2-3 down the stretch with draws 1-1 at WBA, 0-0 home to Norwich and losses at Palace 1-0, at Villa 1-0 and home to Sunderland 1-2. Scoring a total of 2 goals in those 5 games cost us the title. We lost by 4 points and dropped 13 out of 15 in those five games. By the way, those clubs finished 17th, 18th, 11th, 15th and 14th that season respectively. The team that year survived on the superior play of the back line and Cech, not attacking tactics. Cahill has yet to regain his form of that year in my opinion.

We won the title last season primarily due to Costa and Fabregas being white hot the first half of the season and then we coasted in with a lot of 1-0 wins with late heroics. The offensive magic was beginning to fade by March or sooner.

This year has been the most terrible defending I have seen by a Chelsea club. I have never seen so many players lost, confused, beaten by their man, out of position or all of the above. This truth combined with Jose's lack of offensive strategies is the perfect storm we are living with.

I would love to see Jose solve the problems, but I am not sure he can. I watch a LOT of BPL football. Everyone seems to know how to go forward except us (plus defend, plus hold in midfield )

Come on you Chelsea!! :blue scalf: :blue scalf:

[Blue Armour 4,449]

We won the Champions League?

Interim is fine until the summer - avoid relegation and start again

I know you were probably just joking, but we still had Drogba, Lampard, Cech and other stalwarts in the dressing room back then. And even then they failed to make top 4.

Interim would most likely mean endgame for this squad.

[quickpassnmove 924]

after this "ask the players" bullshit, I really wish someone among the players has spoken up or will speak up this week.

We can probably wager already that Chelsea won't be in CL football next year unless other sides have injuries and fall apart later this season. So, the question is all about keeping our most valuable players for the future while not in the CL. I can't see a bad side to changing the manager despite the fact that he might not be the perfect one for the long-term.

It's only going to be a few more bad results and poor performances then this manager is gone.

That's the sound of inevitability, Mr. Mourinho.

[didierforever 7,349]

after this "ask the players" bullshit, I really wish someone among the players has spoken up or will speak up this week.

We can probably wager already that Chelsea won't be in CL football next year unless other sides have injuries and fall apart later this season. So, the question is all about keeping our most valuable players for the future while not in the CL. I can't see a bad side to changing the manager despite the fact that he might not be the perfect one for the long-term.

It's only going to be a few more bad results and poor performances then this manager is gone.

That's the sound of inevitability, Mr. Mourinho.

we can stay in CL next year. we have to butch up both our games against kiev, go to europa and win it.

[ZOS 580]

What would he do different form now on? We need a plan, Jose.

Mou shouldn't get a second chance just to do the same shit all over again. He's still talking about, bad luck and lack of confidence as major factors. No Jose, we have been terrible as well. You said every one should stand up and take on their responsibility, well, What is yours? What did you do wrong and how do you propose to fix it?

There are far too many questions unanswered to before we should grant him full trust,.

[Blue Gino 377]

Well nice to see the poll is shifting from the initial plastic fan voting at almost 60% wanting Jose out. Same ones who either left for the exits at the 75th minute or turned off the TV.

[didierforever 7,349]

What would he do different form now on? We need a plan, Jose.

Mou shouldn't get a second chance just to do the same shit all over again. He's still talking about, bad luck and lack of confidence as major factors. No Jose, we have been terrible as well. You said every one should stand up and take on their responsibility, well, What is yours? What did you do wrong and how do you propose to fix it?

There are far too many questions unanswered to before we should grant him full trust,.

THIS.

nothing i have seen or heard from jose makes me a least bit confident that he can change things around.

hell, the man thinks that we lost to SOTON because of the ref. he is either deluded or has been doing too many drugs.

[Blue Gino 377]

William is the latest to own up to what we all know. That the players for whatever reason are struggling and they know it's up to them to fix it. What else do you want Jose to do? What would you do Football Manager gamers? Trust in your club through tough times, that's what true fans do. Sure, theirs some fucking rats in the dressing room but that's natural. ?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Man. These are borderline embarrassing comments. So Ivanovic keeps his place because he's tall and an aerial threat? Come on, José. Being more vulnerable to set pieces is a trade off I'm willing to risk if it means playing Baba and Azpi.

Actually that was same for Luis last season. When I said that that is the main reason why he doesn't shift Azpi to the right and play Luis last year people didn't take me seriously. But that IS how Jose genuinely thinks. No matter how silly it seems.

[didierforever 7,349]

William is the latest to own up to what we all know. That the players for whatever reason are struggling and they know it's up to them to fix it. What else do you want Jose to do? What would you do Football Manager gamers? Trust in your club through tough times, that's what true fans do. Sure, theirs some fucking rats in the dressing room but that's natural.

yes. its the player's fault that iva and cesc keep playing 90minutes.

[didierforever 7,349]

Man. These are borderline embarrassing comments. So Ivanovic keeps his place because he's tall and an aerial threat? Come on, José. Being more vulnerable to set pieces is a trade off I'm willing to risk if it means playing Baba and Azpi.

OH FUCK!!! THIS IS LEGIT???

hahahhhahahahahah... harry redknapp looks a better saner manager when compared to jose right now.

whats worse is that he keeps choosing cesc. did he grow a foot since last year?

[Billy. 2,742]

So who will Jose be working with over the next two weeks, Im guessing youth, Terry, Costa.

Ill be honest i dont have a clue who has been called up or not to the national teams

[didierforever 7,349]

So who will Jose be working with over the next two weeks, Im guessing youth, Terry, Costa.

Ill be honest i dont have a clue who has been called up or not to the national teams

does it matter who he is working with?

we all know exactly what team is going to line up.

[Billy. 2,742]

does it matter who he is working with?

we all know exactly what team is going to line up.

You never know. Some of them might impress him so much (get hold of pictures of his wife like Ivanovic has) and they will play.

[Special Juan 28,154]

Barbaric to think he once again hid behind the excuse of blaming the ref.

That 7 minute rant was as pointless as it gets.

[didierforever 7,349]

You never know. Some of them might impress him so much (get hold of pictures of his wife like Ivanovic has) and they will play.

LOL.

i hope RLC and baba steal the pics from iva's locker.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

[Blue Gino 377]

This writer sums up my feelings best. http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/terrace-talk-chelsea--abramovich-must-step-in-and-trap-joses-rat-357496.html

[The Mak 4,459]

I hate this talk of José resigning if the players indicate they've lost faith in him...more like becoming too fucking lazy to put a shift in. If they were to do that I feel more like firing the players instead of the manager. We simply cannot go back to the days of player power.

You don't want to fight? You don't want to close down a cross for once Ivanovic? You don't want to pass the ball 5 yards without fucking it up Fabregas? Fuck off the lot of you. What a shit cop-out. It's the simple fucking things that aren't doing, that is no fault of the manager. If they had one tenth the amount of passion as the ordinary Chelsea fan they would run their feet into the ground until they bleed. If they were putting their heart in and it still wasn't working then fair enough, José must go no doubt.

As I said, there are some things influenced by José obviously like the way we play and team selection. Ivanovic's inclusion puts everyone at edge no doubt.

However, it is no excuse to run around the pitch aimlessly looking like you just don't give a fuck. They get paid more in month than most of us will see in a lifetime and they, bar the likes of Willian, don't want to make some effort? That is what I cannot forgive and that is what annoys me the most.

[herzogian 148]

I hate this talk of José resigning if the players indicate they've lost faith in him...more like becoming too fucking lazy to put a shift in. If they were to do that I feel more like firing the players instead of the manager.

You don't want to fight? You don't want to close down a cross for once Ivanovic? You don't want to pass the ball 5 yards without fucking it up Fabregas? Fuck off the lot of you. What a shit cop-out. It's the simple fucking things that aren't doing, that is no fault of the manager. If they had one tenth the amount of passion as the ordinary Chelsea fan they would run their feet into the ground until they bleed. If they were putting their heart in and it still wasn't working then fair enough, José must go no doubt.

As I said, there are some things influenced by José obviously like the way we play and team selection. Ivanovic's inclusion puts everyone at edge no doubt.

However, it is no excuse to run around the pitch aimlessly looking like you just don't give a fuck. They get paid more in month than most of us will see in a lifetime and they, bar the likes of WIllian, don't want to make some effort? That is what I cannot forgive and that is what annoys me the most.

Of course the players aren't all blameless but is it not the role of the manager to be a motivator too? If Mourinho can't do something about the poor motivation (why are they poorly motivated in the first place?) he simply isn't doing his job very well.