The Mourinho Thread

[Stingray 9,441]

I'm genuinely surprised by how some don't seem to realize how bad the situation really is. This is by far worse than any of the 'bad runs' by any of our previous managers. It's our worst start to a season in 35 years! That's not just some statistic. Think about it for a second! I have never seen any a top team start a season this badly. Closest to it maybe Tottenham or Liverpool under Hodgeson.

We are in genuine trouble here. Even if we magically regain our form and start wining matches which there has been zero signs for, it would still be till at least December or January till we even start competing for top 4 again. If we continue with this current terrible form for another month or so it would probably be too late to get 4th place even if we regain top form afterwards. Hence why the couple of weeks after the international break are crucial, imo.

Some of us have a bad case of cognitive dissonance

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

And it lead to this:

http://psychology.about.com/od/lindex/f/earned-helplessness.htm

Some might think it is trivial psychology, but it truly is a powerfull driver for behaviour. Most of the experiments here were made to explain how the holocaust could have taken place, why people cooperated, changed beliefs, and even participated ( the jewish capo's burning people in concentraties Camps).

It is foolish to think you can manage a group by mere 'reward if good, punish if bad' strategy.

[Rmpr 8,977]

If rotating the squad is what you want then we should hire Benitez back!

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

People are saying they'd be surprised if Mourinho got sacked after eight games. Don't forget Vialli was sacked after six. Chelsea historically always have sacked managers pretty much on a whim.

[zolayes 14,489]

I'm genuinely surprised by how some don't seem to realize how bad the situation really is. This is by far worse than any of the 'bad runs' by any of our previous managers. It's our worst start to a season in 35 years! That's not just some statistic. Think about it for a second! I have never seen any a top team start a season this badly. Closest to it maybe Tottenham or Liverpool under Hodgeson.

We are in genuine trouble here. Even if we magically regain our form and start wining matches which there has been zero signs for, it would still be till at least December or January till we even start competing for top 4 again. If we continue with this current terrible form for another month or so it would probably be too late to get 4th place even if we regain top form afterwards. Hence why the couple of weeks after the international break are crucial, imo.

but are you really surprised .. I am but only slightly

[iseah100 5,612]

And yet...he spent over €130,000,000 this season and another €100,000,000 the season before. I suggest you actually look things up before talking out your arse. The league win of 13/14 was an anomaly.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/atletico-madrid/transfers/verein/13/saison_id/2015

Rekt. /thread

[Fernando 6,743]

It seems Carlo is the favorite.

How you know? What's the source?

I hope is true because I was really worried about klopp going there.

Perfect environment to make it like Dortmund.

If they get carlo I won't be that worried.

[Laylabelle 9,754]

He was linked a couple of weeks back though just paper talk but probably some truth in it.how much is to be seen

[supporter 3,088]

IMO The situation is completely hopeless / paranoid. Sometimes it seems that we are cursed this season. This is a very frustrating situation, I am really sad because it seems completely impossible to reverse our season.

I understand those people who think that Jose is the only culprit of our situation, but IMO Jose is part of our problem, and not the only culprit. Jose is guilty in the same proportion as when he was guilty of our successes last season. But our problem is deeper.

All our planning has been a big mistake since May:

1. A wrong and few signings during the summerr market.

2. Wrong sales (Filipe Luis must be playing in our starting eleven).

3. No major signing to encourage competition in our squad.

As a result of this erroneous planning we have right now a team without any kind of motivation / ambition, with accommodated players and a manager who is not being able to redirect our situation, a situation where players and manager seem totally desperate and unable to solve our problems.

Right now nothing or anyone can improve this team because it is a matter of mental block, of mentality. It is a matter of a winning team totally collapsed because they do not know how to live in a scenario that no one expected. Even Guardiola, or Messi, or Joachim Löw, or even the best Diego Armando Maradona would fail with us right now because our players and manager are mentally collapsed. And unclog this collapse is going to be very complicated.

Also does not help us when some fans (to whom I respect their opinion, obviously) are always criticizing any noise around our team and make criticisms against Jose when he has been very important to us.

For example, to me what happened with Eva Carneiro is ridiculous. The press has seen something where they could hurt us and they have exploited it to the fullest. Please, we can not be arguing all day between us just because a doctor. That is like shoot bullets against our own team. It is a trap, a trap that has created a situation of permanent noise with paranoid attitudes debating if Eva Carneiro is a key part of our project or not.

Sometimes it seems that some fans are looking to find our mistakes than be enjoying our successes.

Obviously our situation is not caused by our fans, but we might not be so pessimistic / criticism about our team, on each defeat, on each draw, because sometimes it seems that every time when we do not win a match that means like the end of the world.

Less pessimism would be better for us. And now it is when we have to support our team, is when we can help our team, not writing every five minutes #mourinhosacked on Twitter to cause a global trending topic against us.

About Jose: IMO he is completely out of himself right now. Jose is unmotivated, without his winning eyes and he looks depressed on the bench. The phrase "park the bus" has affected him and he is totally obsessed with making conservative approaches to "annoy" the people who say that. But Jose is forgetting football to focus on "the discussion of the bus" and that's hurting us. Jose should forget quickly the absurd debate of the "manager of the boring bus" and he has to do again competitive approaches as he knows how to do perfectly.

I trust Jose, and I think he should stay with us because he is a manager made for us: he knows the team, he knows the fans, he respects Chelsea and one thing that is important, Jose loves our team, even feeling totally involved with us, something that is very hard to find in modern football. Maybe another coach can come, perhaps someone better (I think that's difficult), but not someone who loves us more than how Jose loves us.

Find a new manager now would not be a solution. It would be start all over again and start a new project in midseason (which usually fails).

What should Jose change to reverse our situation ?.

1. Reorganize his mind: forget the "debate of the bus" and do offensive approaches like he did at the beginning of last season. But smart offensive approaches, without being naive in defense.

2. Forget the old school: Ivanovic can not continue being our right-back anymore. Nor Mikel, John Terry (Captain, Leader, Legend -his case is different-), or Fabregas ....

3. Put the batteries and motivate Eden Hazard. Come on! This guy should be leading our team and he's gone. Hazard must change his behavior because he is failing this season.

4. Forget to win Premier League (it's impossible) and fully focus on winning Champions League, FA Cup and / or League Cup (besides trying to be in the top 4 in the table). And gradually create a new team with young players and players with ambition.

5. Sign players in the January transfer market: our policy of signings in the summer market has been incomprehensible, and now we have three months to think in which players we can sign in January to improve our performance.

Players like (not mean that we have to sign all but IMO would be a good roadmap).

(All of them are players who can play Champions League with us this season)

1. Centre-Back.

A. John Stones. Would be the perfect choice.

B. Laporte. Stones like, but Stones is better acclimated to Premier League rhythm.

2. Right-Back.

A. Fabinho (Monaco). He is the the natural heir of Maicon in Brazil. Also Barcelona, Manchester City, United, PSG and Arsenal have been linked with Fabinho. For me he is the best option in the market (Coleman is impossible).

3. Midfielder (Mikel out).

A. William Carvalho. For me he is the best option: a beast in midfield able to distribute the ball from behind, being a wall on defense, and able to play in Matic's role or close to him.

4. A creative midfielder (or perhaps two watching Fabregas performance).

A. Gundogan. For me he is the best option in the market. Maybe he is not as in 2013, but Gundogan is playing again with Borrussia and playing almost every minute. Our technical team should Watch him closely in these three months. If Gundogan is fully recovered, he is our best option to give some sense to our midfield. We need someone like him.

B. Bernardo Silva (Monaco).

5. A forward?.

Perhaps the most difficult decision. If Diego could get totally focused on football and he could forget about the "absurd fights," he would be the best striker in the world. But Diego is forgetting football and Jose should redirect his behavior.

Remy always has good performance but he did not just to step forward in goals stats.

Falcao is an inexplicable mystery for the humanity. How can a knee injury emaciate a player this way ?.

Possible targets ?, I do not know ... but maybe sign a player who can play as N.9 and also as a winger it would be good option for us.

But the most important thing is to restore a situation without anxiety and paroxysm. Worse than we are now It's impossible to be. We are a winning team and we have to recover that mentality playing match by match.

The following 7 games are more or less easy for us before the next break for the national teams. If we have good results, the scenario will be completely different.

So now we have to be together, trust Jose, trust our players and let them work. Obviously I understand people who are angry with our situation (I am too) but we can not shoot against ourselves.

And also we have to revolutionize our starting eleven, being Ruben Loftus-Cheek our main midfielder leading our ball circulation from behind. With Azpilicueta - Zouma - Cahill - Baba in defense, with Matic - RLC - Oscar - Willian in the midfield, and Hazard and Diego Costa in attack.

And Jose must stop being stubborn and soften the approaches to be more offensive as he can do because Jose Mourinho is not just "the coach of the bus" Jose is able to make us play as a complete team, a total football, completely spectacular because he already did in the past (the last season for example)

Without the pressure of having to win every weekend Premier League as when you have to fight for the trophy, now we have the opportunity to bet on the younger players and those players who really show the necessary ambition to return us to the path of winning trophies again.

Sorry for the long text, and sorry for my English.

GO BLUES!

Regards to ALL.

[Billy. 2,742]

If rotating the squad is what you want then we should hire Benitez back!

Or the tinker man

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

How you know? What's the source?

I hope is true because I was really worried about klopp going there.

Perfect environment to make it like Dortmund.

If they get carlo I won't be that worried.

I heard that Klopp is the favorite....

[zolayes 14,489]

@ supporter ..a short reply ,,, THE PROBLEM IS JOSE but please dont take this as personal

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

wall of text

Great post! That's mostly what i feel and what in my opinion is the way forward for this club, about the transfers a few things i'd like to say:

-For the full backs, wouldn't be better to buy a left back? We do have a very good rb in Azpilicueta, maybe buying an lb would be a better option for us in the winter, Baba could rotate with the new lb and maybe Aina (one of the youngsters) could rotate with Azpi now and then, that for me would be the better scenario.

-About a central midfielder, what do you think about Ruben Neves? He's only 18 but he's already showing great qualities, but perhaps we need a more established player in the world of football than a younger one in that position.

-For a number 9, we really need one, i thought Aboubakar from porto would be a very decent substitute for Diego.

Anyway, really great post, it's always a pleasure to read your opinion!

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

@ supporter ..a short reply ,,, THE PROBLEM IS JOSE but please dont take this as personal

If you could post a detailed opinion, just like he has, about why for you José is the problem, it would add greatly to the thread. Do it please i would like to hear your detailed opinion about this.

[zolayes 14,489]

If you could post a detailed opinion, just like he has, about why for you José is the problem, it would add greatly to the thread. Do it please i would like to hear your detailed opinion about this.

No you wouldnt

[Henrique 9,133]

If you could post a detailed opinion, just like he has, about why for you José is the problem, it would add greatly to the thread. Do it please i would like to hear your detailed opinion about this.

At this point if you don't understand why he is part of the problem, then there is no reason to detail anything.

[supporter 3,088]

Great post! That's mostly what i feel and what in my opinion is the way forward for this club, about the transfers a few things i'd like to say:

-For the full backs, wouldn't be better to buy a left back? We do have a very good rb in Azpilicueta, maybe buying an lb would be a better option for us in the winter, Baba could rotate with the new lb and maybe Aina (one of the youngsters) could rotate with Azpi now and then, that for me would be the better scenario.

-About a central midfielder, what do you think about Ruben Neves? He's only 18 but he's already showing great qualities, but perhaps we need a more established player in the world of football than a younger one in that position.

-For a number 9, we really need one, i thought Aboubakar from porto would be a very decent substitute for Diego.

Anyway, really great post, it's always a pleasure to read your opinion!

Hi friend!

Yeah, maybe sign a left-back could also be a good solution. I speak about a right-back like Fabinho because he can play Champions League this season with us and he is a player with many possibilities for progress in the future.

But if there is a good chance on the market for left-back position could also be a good chance because Azpilicueta is a wildcard and he can perform well on both sides.

And Ruben Neves surprised me the other day against us, but maybe he's too young right now and Porto is a team that always sells their players for a very expensive price.

Bernardo Silva IMO could also be another interesting option. Also Portuguese like Neves, and also very young, but maybe they are both very young. If we had to make a big investment I would sign Koke or Thiago Alcantara in the summer.

Gundogan right now I think he would be the best option. And maybe Ross Barkley, but I doubt that Everton might accept a hypothetical offer from us.

About N.9 also players like Icardi or Higuain are TOP PLAYERS and they could play with us in the Champions League this season.

Aboubakar is also a TOP FORWARD but he can not play Champions League. Although he is one of the best options for the future.

Regards.

[zolayes 14,489]

At this point if you don't understand why he is part of the problem, then there is no reason to detail anything.

sorry to correct you Henrique "the MAIN" part of our problem

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

@supporter - great post and analysis.

Also @Adnane your post earlier as well. Great positivity.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Hi friend!

Yeah, maybe sign a left-back could also be a good solution. I speak about a right-back like Fabinho because he can play Champions League this season with us and he is a player with many possibilities for progress in the future.

But if there is a good chance on the market for left-back position could also be a good chance because Azpilicueta is a wildcard and he can perform well on both sides.

And Ruben Neves surprised me the other day against us, but maybe he's too young right now and Porto is a team that always sells their players for a very expensive price.

Bernardo Silva IMO could also be another interesting option. Also Portuguese like Neves, and also very young, but maybe they are both very young. If we had to make a big investment I would sign Koke or Thiago Alcantara in the summer.

Gundogan right now I think he would be the best option. And maybe Ross Barkley, but I doubt that Everton might accept a hypothetical offer from us.

About N.9 also players like Icardi or Higuain are TOP PLAYERS and they could play with us in the Champions League this season.

Aboubakar is also a TOP FORWARD but he can not play Champions League. Although he is one of the best options for the future.

Regards.

100% agree about Aboubakar he has potential to be as good as Drogba in his prime.

[kevvyhaz 9]

Should be sacked. When a person puts so much money into a football club he should aim for an attacking style of football. To entertain the world and for the love for the game.

So Roman...you know what to do !!!