The Mourinho Thread

[OhForAGreavsie 6,067]

How is that speech stupid? barcelona during the pep era played a specific style of football. Players joined barcelona so they can played that style of football.

Henry, even though was outcasted to the wings, still stayed on for barca because of that style of football and pep. Mario Gotze could of went elsewhere in a bigger contract, but went to munich for pep.

Offensive players love winning, but they love playing specific football. At real madrid, a lot of the players turned their backs on jose because of his philosophy on football.

SO, honestly, I would be surprised if Jose stayed on chelsea long term.

Where did I say the speech was stupid?

[Tomo 21,751]

To me, Jose excels at 2 things.

mentality and positioning.

It's one thing to park the bus with a subpar chelsea team a few seasons back against munich and barca, but its another thing to park the bus and play very conservatively against shit teams in the epl... When you have the quality that this team possesses now, you shouldn't be playing conservatively.

Big away games we mainly play that way, sometimes home if circumstance dictates (City).

Fergie was the same, how many times did he come Stamford Bridge and attack and open the game up? Not very many, if any.

[Oscar 441]

Big away games we mainly play that way, sometimes home if circumstance dictates (City).

Fergie was the same, how many times did he come Stamford Bridge and attack and open the game up? Not very many, if any.

true, but Im not a big fan of fergie play style as well or united in general.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Nvm, stupid post by me.

[Oscar 441]

Nvm, stupid post by me.

Closet united fan you are!

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

true, but Im not a big fan of fergie play style as well or united in general.

It seems like you're hardly a Chelsea fan at all. We have never played the football you described and fancy.

No offense, no judgement, just curious.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Closet united fan you are!

Hmmmmm.... Wat?!

[Oscar 441]

It seems like you're hardly a Chelsea fan at all. We have never played the football you described and fancy.

No offense, no judgement, just curious.

Your telling me Jose never played conservatively?

Because I said Jose isn't the perfect manager? ok.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Your telling me Jose never played conservatively?

Because I said Jose isn't the perfect manager? ok.

Nor is Pep.

[Oscar 441]

Nor is Pep.

Never said pep was....

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Your telling me Jose never played conservatively?

Because I said Jose isn't the perfect manager? ok.

No, please don't get me wrong. This is typical Jose and we all know that. And my question was a genuine one because we have never ever played the way you clearly love like Barca and Bayern then why started supporting us in the first place.

Again, genuine question, no sarcasm or mocking.

[Oscar 441]

No, please don't get me wrong. This is typical Jose and we all know that. And my question was a genuine one because we have never ever played the way you clearly love like Barca and Bayern then why started supporting us in the first place.

Again, genuine question, no sarcasm or mocking.

When did I ever talk about loving barcelona or bayern?

I said Jose doesn't have an identity in terms of playstyle going forward and I used a quote by thierry henry stating his most important speech he heard from a manager was concerning identity and playing football.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

When did I ever talk about loving barcelona or bayern?

I said Jose doesn't have an identity in terms of playstyle going forward and I used a quote by thierry henry stating his most important speech he heard from a manager was concerning identity and playing football.

Fair enough, my apologies mate.

[lionsden 4,689]

Identity is not to follow the fashions that other impose you, it is being faithful to your beliefs although the rest goes down against you.

Nuno, coach of ValenciaFC: "Barça of Guardiola has been bad for football. It is a pleasure to watch them play, but today it has created a trend that's only that is football and isn't true"

I fully agree with this guy, also this topic already bored.

In the end majority of football fans recognise good football as good football regardless of the philosophy and execution style. In layman terms a team that attacks and defends well with the right amount of balance and proportion (i.e not 80% defending and 20% attacking) are said to have played a great game. the football we played throughout last year and the majority of the big games this season has been anything but good by any standard.

For example, you saw how our performance against City at the etihad last year and Monaco's against Arsenal were lauded despite being counter attacking in style. People appreciate good football in different forms so there's no major bias towards tiki taka as some are implying. The problem is jose, throughout his career, in the big games, has consistently delivered overwhelmingly negative football with little attacking initiative and creativity and managers are judged not just on trophies/success alone but also on the quality of their overall performances in big games and major competitions amongst other things.

[tiby2979 175]

In the end majority of football fans recognise good football as good football regardless of the philosophy and execution style. In layman terms a team that attacks and defends well with the right amount of balance and proportion (i.e not 80% defending and 20% attacking) are said to have played a great game. the football we played throughout last year and the majority of the big games this season has been anything but good by any standard.

For example, you saw how our performance against City at the etihad last year and Monaco's against Arsenal were lauded despite being counter attacking in style. People appreciate good football in different forms so there's no major bias towards tiki taka as some are implying. The problem is jose, throughout his career, in the big games, has consistently delivered overwhelmingly negative football with little attacking initiative and creativity and managers are judged not just on trophies/success alone but also on the quality of their overall performances in big games and major competitions amongst other things.

¿And? That has nothing to do with my comment. Precisely what i say is don't need play like Barcelona to play good football.