The Mourinho Thread

[Term-X 7,891]

True but you who analyze mourinho so much, like with the style of clothes he wears you must clearly see this.

The difference in character of mourinho 04 to mourinho 14.

Again, I think this is a results problem, I even said in that thread (behaviour wise) that he doesn't want to dress up for a 'non-occasion'. Look how he dressed at the start of the season for example. Even though I made a whole point of that, ultimately his attire is only a very small crack in the window, in regards to this.

[Fernando 6,585]

Again, I think this is a results problem, I even said in that thread (behaviour wise) that he doesn't want to dress up for a 'non-occasion'. Look how he dressed at the start of the season for example. Even though I made a whole point of that, ultimately his attire is only a very small crack in the window, in regards to this.

Okay I'll take it as result problem for the season. Next season we can discuss if indeed this was the case throughout the season.

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

Like Mourinho said, he could have taken the easy option. He could have easily gone to PSG or Monaco and raked in a few more titles to add to his CV.

He knew the task ahead when coming back here and knew it would take a season to adjust, hence why he downplayed our title chances early on. When will people realise there is no quick fix? It is going to take time to get Chelsea back to the very top of their game but, I think Jose is the best man for the job.

We can't keep sacking managers because we went a season without a trophy. We have so many players that we probably won't need and it's all down to no long term manager being here. The fact that Roman let Jose sell Mata says it all for me, Jose is his man and is here for a long time.

Would you rather us win the odd trophy and go through a manager per season? We will be left with players that don't fit managers style and left having the same conversations after every season.

In case some haven't noticed, we have been through most of the worlds top mangers.... Klopp? One bad season and some people would want him out too.

Jose might not bring the most exciting football to watch but he is a winner and no other manager will defend this club like Jose

[The Skipper 20,609]

You have to question Chelsea fans who go about their business in such a disconnected manner. I think it was Spike who said 'you don't have to be a Mourinho fan to be a Chelsea fan', and therein lies the problem. If you support the club like a computer, maybe not. If however you experienced our first period under him and understand the impact he has on the club, then you'd have an emotional connection. It doesn't mean you have to agree with everything he says or does, but it means a level of respect would be apparent in your posts.

That's the problem some seem to have on here. I love Mourinho for what he's done for the club and was so delighted when he was announced back, it was like a dream come true - but if you don't always agree with everything he does (even if you go about it in a respectful manner) some seem to think that you don't support the club and that you're a glory hunter - which is ridiculous to begin with.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Our failed pursuit of Wayne Rooney and Ozil going to Arsenal(Lukaku would have stayed as Ba was going on loan to Arsenal) has been one of the major reasons why we could not win a trophy this year.

A semi final finish is what some teams dream of and we did that without a proper striker. The fact that we were in contention of the league till the last month also shows great potential. Next season will be much better because of 2-3 clinical signings. This seasons experience has truly been invaluable and will help us progress with greater confidence.

[Henrique 9,133]

Mourinho biggest mistake this season was never giving up the 4-2-3-1 system. Its a really effective system if you are facing teams like Liverpool or City, but he was using the same system against teams like Crystal Palace. I mean, whats the point of fielding two DM against Palace? Anyone expected a different game with such conservative line-up against a ultra-defensive game? but some people here were saying Mourinho got the tactics right because it was the same line-up he used against Arsenal. I don't even have to discuss this subject, because if you think you should use the same tactics facing completely different animals like Arsenal and Palace, then the whole discussion is over.

I really liked Tx "rhetoric", because it reveals whats is going on here: some members see Mourinho as a special manager because of the period between 2004 and 2007, thats why they are way too lenient sometimes.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

A Jaded Mourinho is still has 10x more character than the average manager. Our problem is the squad has too much drywood, plain and simple.

Mourinho biggest mistake this season was never giving up the 4-2-3-1 system. Its a really effective system if you are facing teams like Liverpool or City, but he was using the same system against teams like Crystal Palace. I mean, whats the point of fielding two DM against Palace? Anyone expected a different game with such conservative line-up against a ultra-defensive game? but some people here were saying Mourinho got the tactics right because it was the same line-up he used against Arsenal. I don't even have to discuss this subject, because if you think you should use the same tactics facing completely different animals like Arsenal and Palace, then the whole discussion is over.

I really liked Tx "rhetoric", because it reveals whats is going on here: some members see Mourinho as a special manager because of the period between 2004 and 2007, thats why they are way too lenient sometimes.

4-2-3-1 doesn't mean you're fielding two DMs, not at all. it's mean't for 1 holding mid and 1 box-to-box mid. Ramires is our only good box-to-box and even he gets about 10 feet into a run and loses the ball. If you look back at the Stoke City game. Matic started off as the holding mid and Lamps as more of a box-to-box but as the match warmed up they were switching their roles.

[zolayes 14,489]

Mourinho biggest mistake this season was never giving up the 4-2-3-1 system. Its a really effective system if you are facing teams like Liverpool or City, but he was using the same system against teams like Crystal Palace. I mean, whats the point of fielding two DM against Palace? Anyone expected a different game with such conservative line-up against a ultra-defensive game? but some people here were saying Mourinho got the tactics right because it was the same line-up he used against Arsenal. I don't even have to discuss this subject, because if you think you should use the same tactics facing completely different animals like Arsenal and Palace, then the whole discussion is over.

I really liked Tx "rhetoric", because it reveals whats is going on here: some members see Mourinho as a special manager because of the period between 2004 and 2007, thats why they are way too lenient sometimes.

YESSSSSSSSSS Ive been screaming this for years ,,, We have players talented enough to play in various systems .. Often we could be starting 4 4 2 0r 3 5 2

This single striker and double pivot drives me to distraction at times

[Term-X 7,891]

I really liked Tx "rhetoric", because it reveals whats is going on here: some members see Mourinho as a special manager because of the period between 2004 and 2007, thats why they are way too lenient sometimes.

Way too lenient?, as opposed to what exactly?.. only ever criticising him?. There are members here who don't EVEN strike THAT balance.

[BloodIsBlue 291]

YESSSSSSSSSS Ive been screaming this for years ,,, We have players talented enough to play in various systems .. Often we could be starting 4 4 2 0r 3 5 2

This single striker and double pivot drives me to distraction at times

4-4-2 is dead and 3-5-2 is for the Italians.

[Term-X 7,891]

A Jaded Mourinho

'The Jaded One'...

[zolayes 14,489]

4-4-2 is dead and 3-5-2 is for the Italians.

youve been brainwashed .. there is more than one way to skin a cat ,,,

[The Skipper 20,609]

A Jaded Mourinho is still has 10x more character than the average manager. Our problem is the squad has too much drywood, plain and simple.

4-2-3-1 doesn't mean you're fielding two DMs, not at all. it's mean't for 1 holding mid and 1 box-to-box mid. Ramires is our only good box-to-box and even he gets about 10 feet into a run and loses the ball. If you look back at the Stoke City game. Matic started off as the holding mid and Lamps as more of a box-to-box but as the match warmed up they were switching their roles.

Doesn't even necessarily mean you need one holding and one b2b midfielder - you can have different combinations - i.e. A holding and a playmaker, destroyer and playmaker or a b2b and a playmaker etc.

[Special Juan 28,141]

With my Jose cap firmly on, I believe this bloke is to us what Warburtons is to bread.

Support Jose, applaud Jose and love Chelsea.

:blue scalf:

[Henrique 9,133]

Like Mourinho said, he could have taken the easy option. He could have easily gone to PSG or Monaco and raked in a few more titles to add to his CV.

He knew the task ahead when coming back here and knew it would take a season to adjust, hence why he downplayed our title chances early on. When will people realise there is no quick fix? It is going to take time to get Chelsea back to the very top of their game but, I think Jose is the best man for the job.

We can't keep sacking managers because we went a season without a trophy. We have so many players that we probably won't need and it's all down to no long term manager being here. The fact that Roman let Jose sell Mata says it all for me, Jose is his man and is here for a long time.

Would you rather us win the odd trophy and go through a manager per season? We will be left with players that don't fit managers style and left having the same conversations after every season.

In case some haven't noticed, we have been through most of the worlds top mangers.... Klopp? One bad season and some people would want him out too.

Jose might not bring the most exciting football to watch but he is a winner and no other manager will defend this club like Jose

I don't think anyone here is asking for Mourinho's head. Thats the difference between Mourinho and a manager without his CV. After a bad season, you still believe Mourinho will turn things right and make Chelsea as strong as any team around the globe. To other side some people start to have misgivings about Mourinho. Football is really dynamic. 10 years ago Wenger was still great, at this moment he is still managing Arsenal because they lack ambition. Its clear for everyone that Arsenal could do better with a younger manager with fresh ideas. Sometimes changing is necessary for both clubs and managers. A lot of great managers from the past needed to spend years on the ostracism to get back at the highest level: Louis Van Gaal, Del Bosque, Jupp Heynckes, to name a few.

Just like everyone, I thought we would win the PL this season because of Mourinho's impact, but I have to admit that I was really surprised that at some points it looked like Mourinho didn't know what he was doing, and I'm sure that his line-up against Atlético raised some eyebrows. The difference between a genius and a mad man is the success, the first Atlético goal came after a cross from the side where the team had two full backs, and the team lost 3-1 at home. Its not only about the result, it was the way the team was defeated. It had a lot to do with tactical choices, it wasn't because Atlético had a better squad, as some people are claiming, and even if thats the case, so why are the managers for, if at the end of the days is the quality of the squad that really matters?

I don't believe in Mourinho when he is saying he took the hard option. After he left Madrid he said he wanted to be in a place he was loved. At Chelsea and in England, people think he is some kind of tactical god, he has the majority of the fans and of the press in his pocket. In PSG he would win some national leagues, but would add only stats in his CV, because there is a abysm between PSG and the rest of the league, they are supposed to win the league with any manager in the world, but everyone know what PSG really wants. Winning the UCL with a french team is a really HUGE task. If he really wanted some hard challenge, why he is not in Italy again? If any manager in the world win a UCL with a italian club in the next 3 years, this man would be a real genius. Being at Chelsea again is far from a hard job. Chelsea is easily the best option for him at this moment, at least was one year ago. It was the natural choice for him.

So, the big question for next season is: can Mourinho improve this team? Will the team have more success next season? Some people believe the only answer is yes. We all hope "yes" is the answer, but after what I saw this season, and can expect anything to happen, from the team winning 4 trophies, to Mourinho leaving the club after another trophyless season.