TheOneChan95 225 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 United could and would easily beat us on wages if it was about that particularly as we become more concerned with FFP. If we're honest Madrid to Chelsea is a step down but Chelsea to United wouldn't be. I doubt Mourinho will ever manage them but if he becomes available and they're in a need of a manager I would not be surprised at all to see him take the post.United could outmuscle us financially at the moment and FFP does maintain the status quo. I doubt money is his main objective though. I agree with you that I think he is ruthless enough to take it, but the circumstances here at Chelsea must be really dire if he would want to go there.In my opinion, I think his time at Madrid really made him appreciate the fans that he has here. For him to forsake us would require almost everything to go wrong now. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 No it wouldn't, and we're having no problems with FFP (what Jose said in the press recently is mind games, heaps the pressure on United). Mourinho is the second highest paid manager in world football. You have no argument for United being a 'step up', other than their history.. the same arguments Liverpool fans have.It seems like you're really understimating the wealth and stature of United. If it were simply a case of money then there's absolutely no chance we'd outdo them (yes Jose gets paid more than van Gaal but if they wanted to make him the highest paid manager in the world they could do it easily); and if you think that United isn't a step up from Chelsea in terms of the magnitude and national/worldwide standing of the club then your Chelsea bias is clouding your better judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 It seems like you're really understimating the wealth and stature of United. If it were simply a case of money then there's absolutely no chance we'd outdo them (yes Jose gets paid more than van Gaal but if they wanted to make him the highest paid manager in the world they could do it easily); and if you think that United isn't a step up from Chelsea in terms of the magnitude and national/worldwide standing of the club then your Chelsea bias is clouding your better judgement.How much of a step up though? A step up in what way exactly? What would Jose have there that he doesn't have here?You're grossly overestimating United's stature IMO. iseah100 and Term-X 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I get your point but having completed the club set of pretty much every major trophy from England, Spain and Italy, I think he would set his sights on something else. I suspect he may manage an international side. Can you imagine if he wins either a Euro or a World Cup or possibly both? His status as the greatest manager of all time would be unchallenged. Yea, the chances of him going to a national team are much greater than United. there aren't many things I'd hate to see more than Jose at United, that's why I brought it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 How much of a step up though? A step up in what way exactly? What would Jose have there that he doesn't have here?You're grossly overestimating United's stature IMO.I don’t think I’m exaggerating United’s stature tbh. Is it an overestimation to say that United have more prestige, fans, history (clichéd but true), national and worldwide recognition, and financial prowess? While we are a big club I'm willing to admit we are not on the same level as United, and for managers it is a bigger proposition. Perhaps now that Jose has already managed a club at that 'top, top' level in Real he'd be less inclined to take the United job but to say it is a step down from Chelsea (according to Term anyway) is completely wrong imo. Chelsea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 He said he would never join Chelsea or Inter rival...But United is hardly our rival nowdays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 it would be pretty awesome to be known as the guy that was able to successfully replace Alex Ferguson; especially if you have a high opinion of him.Do I think this is likely? no. I just don't wanna see it happen AT ALL. that's pretty much my entire point. It's like a happily married man being scared his wife will divorce him in the future because he thinks she'll be bored of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I dont think Im exaggerating Uniteds stature tbh. Is it an overestimation to say that United have more prestige, fans, history (clichéd but true), national and worldwide recognition, and financial prowess? While we are a big club I'm willing to admit we are not on the same level as United, and for managers it is a bigger proposition. Perhaps now that Jose has already managed a club at that 'top, top' level in Real he'd be less inclined to take the United job but to say it is a step down from Chelsea (according to Term anyway) is completely wrong imo.Even if those points are true, are United that big that he'll shun us for them considering he's already done the 'prestige' club thing at Real? The gap truly isn't as big as you're making it seem. As Term said, he's already done it before, and it's already off his to do list IMO. His focus right now is to get us to that Real Madrid, Barcelona, United level. That in itself is much more challenging and intriguing for Mou than the United job IMO. Barbara and Term-X 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Even if those points are true, are United that big that he'll shun us for them considering he's already done the 'prestige' club thing at Real? The gap truly isn't as big as you're making it seem.As Term said, he's already done it before, and it's already off his to do list IMO. His focus right now is to get us to that Real Madrid, Barcelona, United level. That in itself is much more challenging and intriguing for Mou than the United job IMO.It all depends on the circumances. If he were to be sacked then I have no doubt he'd be willing to take the United job. Chelsea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 It all depends on the circumances. If he were to be sacked then I have no doubt he'd be willing to take the United job.Absolutely, but that has nothing to do with the fact that United might be bigger in stature than us... More to do with the fact that it's another top job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The Mou wants the United job myth is hilarious, he has never actually done anything to suggest he wants it if you read between the lines. Term-X 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Moving away from the Mourinho to United talk, I just saw this on twitter: 'Today, tomorrow and forever with Barca in our hearts.' The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Mourinho on Guardiola: "If you enjoy what you're doing, you don't lose your hair. He's got a bald head. Guardiola doesn't enjoy football."We have to play against Bayern in the CL. Barbara, stroey, Polo7 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Mourinho on Guardiola: "If you enjoy what you're doing, you don't lose your hair. He's got a bald head. Guardiola doesn't enjoy football."We have to play against Bayern in the CL. Wow, do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The Mou wants the United job myth is hilarious, he has never actually done anything to suggest he wants it if you read between the lines.it's actually the opposite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The Mou wants the United job myth is hilarious, he has never actually done anything to suggest he wants it if you read between the lines.it's actually the opposite exactly... time after time he confessed his big love for Chelsea and even went as far as saying lately that we're the only side in England he'd train. Of course things can change. He's a professional earning his (tons of) money. If we sack him, he'll analyze the proposals on his desk. He'll always try to balance the challenge and what the team can offer for him to win - he's a winner, he won't settle for a team that won't provide him with tools for that. He's already proved with Porto and to a certain extent with Inter too, that he can work around a team's limitation to win the titles that really matter. Thing is he's a powerhouse name now, he's older, more tired, why would he subject himself to make those efforts again with limited teams if many top teams would have him?So if we sack him, and a good deal comes from United, I'd see him taking the job... but at the same time it would have to be MUCH better than other clubs for him to move to a rival of a club he's admitted too many times he's emotionally connected with. He's a fan just as we are. He said he's one of us and I believe him. It doesn't mean he wouldn't train any other club in England, but if two identical proposals came along, one in England and another in Germany or Spain, maybe he'd rather go to those countries (although I'm not sure he wouldn't avoid Spain and their biased and venomous media at all costs) Daniel1980 and darrus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrus 422 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 exactly... time after time he confessed his big love for Chelsea and even went as far as saying lately that we're the only side in England he'd train. Of course things can change. He's a professional earning his (tons of) money. If we sack him, he'll analyze the proposals on his desk. He'll always try to balance the challenge and what the team can offer for him to win - he's a winner, he won't settle for a team that won't provide him with tools for that. He's already proved with Porto and to a certain extent with Inter too, that he can work around a team's limitation to win the titles that really matter. Thing is he's a powerhouse name now, he's older, more tired, why would he subject himself to make those efforts again with limited teams if many top teams would have him?So if we sack him, and a good deal comes from United, I'd see him taking the job... but at the same time it would have to be MUCH better than other clubs for him to move to a rival of a club he's admitted too many times he's emotionally connected with. He's a fan just as we are. He said he's one of us and I believe him. It doesn't mean he wouldn't train any other club in England, but if two identical proposals came along, one in England and another in Germany or Spain, maybe he'd rather go to those countries (although I'm not sure he wouldn't avoid Spain and their biased and venomous media at all costs)Agree. Though I suppose if two offers on his desk are from Milan and MU, he'd go to our "generally" rival rather than to "enemy" of Inter Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Agree. Though I suppose if two offers on his desk are from Milan and MU, he'd go to our "generally" rival rather than to "enemy" of Inter he wouldn't go to Milan because of that but also because Italian football is declining, they can't offer him a competitive team in Europe and as I said he's above managing those profile of teams at this stage of his career... but even if they could afford everything he'd demand, I also believe he wouldn't go there. He even said he likes Torres and would have preferred him to go to Inter instead of Milan. For the first time in my life I'd be sad for Mourinho and I supporting the same team if it meant he sent Torres to Inter. No, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If he were to move PSG would be the most likely place IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If Mourinho goes to United, someone is gonna have a massive meltdown here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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