The Mourinho Thread

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He said inter's fans are better than ours

[didierforever 7,349]

  On 03/08/2014 at 11:43, NiclasCFC said:

so Mourinho is wrong?

jose might have mis-spoken. or maybe he has already decided the fate on one of our players.

i love jose dearly but what he says is not the WORD OF GOD. specially since we have the proof in front of ourselves.

we have 19 non HG players. and the rule states 17 players. so unless we get some special exempt, 2 of those players will be leaving be it on loan (most likely for romeu) or on permanent basis

[boshman 1,073]

  On 03/08/2014 at 12:21, Liquidator said:

He said inter's fans are better than ours

He is probably right to be fair. Our home fans are shite!

[Sidzeret 2,257]

  On 03/08/2014 at 12:21, Liquidator said:

He said inter's fans are better than ours

He probably might have read our forum.

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  On 03/08/2014 at 12:21, Liquidator said:

He said inter's fans are better than ours

The quotes.. 'in context' were to take the sting away with his "but.. I'm not in love with italian football" comment. Italians in general are more visually passionate & expressive people than us English, so I can understand that view.

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  On 03/08/2014 at 11:45, sdrcfc said:

Van Ginkel? He's more likely to be starting than leaving.

“One will go from the squad that we have now – but I have yet to decide who. But it won’t be a senior player,” Mourinho said.

Think the only non HG juniors are Van Ginkel and Romeu, but most likely Romeu will leave on loan.

[bababoom 4,478]

What did Jose actually say about the Inter fans? Did he say it recently because I remember him saying something similar in the past.

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  On 03/08/2014 at 14:09, James said:

What did Jose actually say about the Inter fans? Did he say it recently because I remember him saying something similar in the past.

He did say his greatest moment football wise is his Champions League victory with Inter.;

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  On 03/08/2014 at 14:16, Sidzeret said:

He did say his greatest moment football wise is his Champions League victory with Inter.;

Well, of course it was, it doesn't get bigger than winning the CL in club football.. especially the way they did it.

[dimmas 126]

Seing Mourinho still choose torres as 2nd striker, and saying clearly about mikel as matic backup not van ginkel or another player

Making me sad about my problem with this great manager, Mourinho really rarely to developing talent

With young player, he only care if that player is having extremely talented (ala varane) and good mentality

if just excellent talent and having good will to learn, mourinho hardly to trust him and try everything to help that young player

He always pick experience player even having very mediocre skill to play in the match than exciting youngster which worth to giving some patience to play in first team

And because of that , this season

we stuck with mediocre shit player (very average technically) but with good patience and fine mentality (accept to rarely pick as starter in our squad)

meanwhile our great youngster, which worth to develop is playing elsewhere (again and again)

If they stay in our squad, Our excellent youngster just became 4th choice player in specific position, which mostly never play

I think mourinho REALLY need change his approach if mou really want in the future chelsea have their academy player break to the first team

like he said recently about baker and co

[Namika 922]

One thing that I don't understand from Mourinho criticism is the "there's no movements upfront, don't we make attackings movements in training blablabla". Arrigo Sachi, Carlo Ancelotti, Pep Guardiola have said multiple of times that their jobs is to find a way to bring the ball to the attacking players and then their creativity have to do the rest. What do you want José to do ?

There is no ultimate solution to beat a parked bus, a manager isn't a magician.

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  On 03/08/2014 at 19:46, Namika said:

One thing that I don't understand from Mourinho criticism is the "there's no movements upfront, don't we make attackings movements in training blablabla". Arrigo Sachi, Carlo Ancelotti, Pep Guardiola have said multiple of times that their jobs is to find a way to bring the ball to the attacking players and then their creativity have to do the rest. What do you want José to do ?

There is no ultimate solution to beat a parked bus, a manager isn't a magician.

Of course there is a solution ..it is called Creativity

[Namika 922]

  On 03/08/2014 at 19:48, zolayes said:

Of course there is a solution ..it is called Creativity

Barcelona has problem with parked bus too and they have the best players in the world in terms of creativity.

[HD3D 1,038]

  On 03/08/2014 at 14:40, dimmas said:

I think mourinho REALLY need change his approach if mou really want in the future chelsea have their academy player break to the first team

like he said recently about baker and co

This obsession with having a first team composed of homegrown players needs to end.

This trash-talk originally appeared due to the success of Barcelona's academy, which was actually no more than the luck of having several talented players be a part of the same generation. The sofa-managers who still dazzle at this idea, don't seem to have noticed both Manchester United and Barcelona, two clubs which brag about "giving the youth a chance" have been splashing dozens of millions this summer because their academy is not delivering anything top quality now, thus proving that it has nothing to do with "giving more chances to the kids" but actually "having the kids who are worth giving a chance to".

Mourinho introduces academy players to the first team just as often as any other top manager. At Real Madrid, he promoted Varane, Nacho and Morata in 3 years (I'm only mentioning the ones who had success, because he also gave a chance to plenty of others who failed to make an impact). In comparison, Ancelotti has so far only promoted Jese. Looking at Bayern Munich, Guardiola's rate of promoting youth hasn't been bigger than that either.

The fact is that being promoted to the first team depends more on the young players than the manager. I have yet to see a young Chelsea player leave the team for not being given a chance and then become a star elsewhere, like it happened with Pogba at Man United.

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  On 03/08/2014 at 20:33, HD3D said:

This obsession with having a first team composed of homegrown players needs to end.

This trash-talk originally appeared due to the success of Barcelona's academy, which was actually no more than the luck of having several talented players be a part of the same generation. The sofa-managers who still dazzle at this idea, don't seem to have noticed both Manchester United and Barcelona, two clubs which brag about "giving the youth a chance" have been splashing dozens of millions this summer because their academy is not delivering anything top quality now, thus proving that it has nothing to do with "giving more chances to the kids" but actually "having the kids who are worth giving a chance to".

Mourinho introduces academy players to the first team just as often as any other top manager. At Real Madrid, he promoted Varane, Nacho and Morata in 3 years (I'm only mentioning the ones who had success, because he also gave a chance to plenty of others who failed to make an impact). In comparison, Ancelotti has so far only promoted Jese. Looking at Bayern Munich, Guardiola's rate of promoting youth hasn't been bigger than that either.

The fact is that being promoted to the first team depends more on the young players than the manager. I have yet to see a young Chelsea player leave the team for not being given a chance and then become a star elsewhere, like it happened with Pogba at Man United.

Without HG players the squad is limited to 17 players plus under 21s not enough for a 60+ game season with most playing up to 10 interationals as well

[Barbara 15,149]

  On 03/08/2014 at 20:33, HD3D said:

This obsession with having a first team composed of homegrown players needs to end.

It isn't an obsession. How do you think an English Chelsea fan feels when he looks at his team lineup and don't see one English there? Or just one or two?

Chelsea became a global team since Roman is here, but it will always be by definition an English club and a team should have a core of players from the country where it's based. This isn't an obsession, this is staying true to your identity. We need more English players like Terry. Many more. Not just one or two, but at least four or five.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

What he thinks he is going to achieve with Costa, Drogba and Torres I dont know...

Our bench CMs looks suspicious too.

[Tomo 21,741]

  On 03/08/2014 at 20:33, HD3D said:

This obsession with having a first team composed of homegrown players needs to end.

This trash-talk originally appeared due to the success of Barcelona's academy, which was actually no more than the luck of having several talented players be a part of the same generation. The sofa-managers who still dazzle at this idea, don't seem to have noticed both Manchester United and Barcelona, two clubs which brag about "giving the youth a chance" have been splashing dozens of millions this summer because their academy is not delivering anything top quality now, thus proving that it has nothing to do with "giving more chances to the kids" but actually "having the kids who are worth giving a chance to".

Mourinho introduces academy players to the first team just as often as any other top manager. At Real Madrid, he promoted Varane, Nacho and Morata in 3 years (I'm only mentioning the ones who had success, because he also gave a chance to plenty of others who failed to make an impact). In comparison, Ancelotti has so far only promoted Jese. Looking at Bayern Munich, Guardiola's rate of promoting youth hasn't been bigger than that either.

The fact is that being promoted to the first team depends more on the young players than the manager. I have yet to see a young Chelsea player leave the team for not being given a chance and then become a star elsewhere, like it happened with Pogba at Man United.

I disagree re HG, I think a HG core off about six players is important in football but that's for another argument.

About the youth tho, you couldnt be more spot on, people don't seem to get how complicated youth development actually is, every single time we don't throw a youth product in we are apparently what's wrong with football and ruin there careers, even some of our own lot jump on the bandwagon ffs.

I mean if RLC was the best midfield option we have, mentally, technically and tactically he would play, it's that simple.