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so Mourinho is wrong?

jose might have mis-spoken. or maybe he has already decided the fate on one of our players.

i love jose dearly but what he says is not the WORD OF GOD. specially since we have the proof in front of ourselves.

we have 19 non HG players. and the rule states 17 players. so unless we get some special exempt, 2 of those players will be leaving be it on loan (most likely for romeu) or on permanent basis

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He said inter's fans are better than ours :(

The quotes.. 'in context' were to take the sting away with his "but.. I'm not in love with italian football" comment. Italians in general are more visually passionate & expressive people than us English, so I can understand that view.

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Van Ginkel? He's more likely to be starting than leaving.

“One will go from the squad that we have now – but I have yet to decide who. But it won’t be a senior player,” Mourinho said.

Think the only non HG juniors are Van Ginkel and Romeu, but most likely Romeu will leave on loan.

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Seing Mourinho still choose torres as 2nd striker, and saying clearly about mikel as matic backup :fainthv9: not van ginkel or another player

Making me sad about my problem with this great manager, Mourinho really rarely to developing talent

With young player, he only care if that player is having extremely talented (ala varane) and good mentality

if just excellent talent and having good will to learn, mourinho hardly to trust him and try everything to help that young player

He always pick experience player even having very mediocre skill to play in the match than exciting youngster which worth to giving some patience to play in first team

And because of that , this season

we stuck with mediocre shit player :fainthv9: (very average technically) but with good patience and fine mentality (accept to rarely pick as starter in our squad)

meanwhile our great youngster, which worth to develop is playing elsewhere (again and again) :rolleyes:

If they stay in our squad, Our excellent youngster just became 4th choice player in specific position, which mostly never play :cry:

I think mourinho REALLY need change his approach if mou really want in the future chelsea have their academy player break to the first team

like he said recently about baker and co

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One thing that I don't understand from Mourinho criticism is the "there's no movements upfront, don't we make attackings movements in training blablabla". Arrigo Sachi, Carlo Ancelotti, Pep Guardiola have said multiple of times that their jobs is to find a way to bring the ball to the attacking players and then their creativity have to do the rest. What do you want José to do ?

There is no ultimate solution to beat a parked bus, a manager isn't a magician.

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One thing that I don't understand from Mourinho criticism is the "there's no movements upfront, don't we make attackings movements in training blablabla". Arrigo Sachi, Carlo Ancelotti, Pep Guardiola have said multiple of times that their jobs is to find a way to bring the ball to the attacking players and then their creativity have to do the rest. What do you want José to do ?

There is no ultimate solution to beat a parked bus, a manager isn't a magician.

Of course there is a solution ..it is called Creativity

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I think mourinho REALLY need change his approach if mou really want in the future chelsea have their academy player break to the first team

like he said recently about baker and co

This obsession with having a first team composed of homegrown players needs to end.

This trash-talk originally appeared due to the success of Barcelona's academy, which was actually no more than the luck of having several talented players be a part of the same generation. The sofa-managers who still dazzle at this idea, don't seem to have noticed both Manchester United and Barcelona, two clubs which brag about "giving the youth a chance" have been splashing dozens of millions this summer because their academy is not delivering anything top quality now, thus proving that it has nothing to do with "giving more chances to the kids" but actually "having the kids who are worth giving a chance to".

Mourinho introduces academy players to the first team just as often as any other top manager. At Real Madrid, he promoted Varane, Nacho and Morata in 3 years (I'm only mentioning the ones who had success, because he also gave a chance to plenty of others who failed to make an impact). In comparison, Ancelotti has so far only promoted Jese. Looking at Bayern Munich, Guardiola's rate of promoting youth hasn't been bigger than that either.

The fact is that being promoted to the first team depends more on the young players than the manager. I have yet to see a young Chelsea player leave the team for not being given a chance and then become a star elsewhere, like it happened with Pogba at Man United.

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This obsession with having a first team composed of homegrown players needs to end.

This trash-talk originally appeared due to the success of Barcelona's academy, which was actually no more than the luck of having several talented players be a part of the same generation. The sofa-managers who still dazzle at this idea, don't seem to have noticed both Manchester United and Barcelona, two clubs which brag about "giving the youth a chance" have been splashing dozens of millions this summer because their academy is not delivering anything top quality now, thus proving that it has nothing to do with "giving more chances to the kids" but actually "having the kids who are worth giving a chance to".

Mourinho introduces academy players to the first team just as often as any other top manager. At Real Madrid, he promoted Varane, Nacho and Morata in 3 years (I'm only mentioning the ones who had success, because he also gave a chance to plenty of others who failed to make an impact). In comparison, Ancelotti has so far only promoted Jese. Looking at Bayern Munich, Guardiola's rate of promoting youth hasn't been bigger than that either.

The fact is that being promoted to the first team depends more on the young players than the manager. I have yet to see a young Chelsea player leave the team for not being given a chance and then become a star elsewhere, like it happened with Pogba at Man United.

Without HG players the squad is limited to 17 players plus under 21s not enough for a 60+ game season with most playing up to 10 interationals as well

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This obsession with having a first team composed of homegrown players needs to end.

This trash-talk originally appeared due to the success of Barcelona's academy, which was actually no more than the luck of having several talented players be a part of the same generation. The sofa-managers who still dazzle at this idea, don't seem to have noticed both Manchester United and Barcelona, two clubs which brag about "giving the youth a chance" have been splashing dozens of millions this summer because their academy is not delivering anything top quality now, thus proving that it has nothing to do with "giving more chances to the kids" but actually "having the kids who are worth giving a chance to".

Mourinho introduces academy players to the first team just as often as any other top manager. At Real Madrid, he promoted Varane, Nacho and Morata in 3 years (I'm only mentioning the ones who had success, because he also gave a chance to plenty of others who failed to make an impact). In comparison, Ancelotti has so far only promoted Jese. Looking at Bayern Munich, Guardiola's rate of promoting youth hasn't been bigger than that either.

The fact is that being promoted to the first team depends more on the young players than the manager. I have yet to see a young Chelsea player leave the team for not being given a chance and then become a star elsewhere, like it happened with Pogba at Man United.

I disagree re HG, I think a HG core off about six players is important in football but that's for another argument.

About the youth tho, you couldnt be more spot on, people don't seem to get how complicated youth development actually is, every single time we don't throw a youth product in we are apparently what's wrong with football and ruin there careers, even some of our own lot jump on the bandwagon ffs.

I mean if RLC was the best midfield option we have, mentally, technically and tactically he would play, it's that simple.

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