The Mourinho Thread

[José1893 89]

Guardiola would never make a team like the Porto of Mou win the Champions League. He has already worsened Bayern's already perfect squad. What a dumb overrated prick Gaydiola is..

[iseah100 5,612]

Lol at people getting mad about comparing Mou and Carlo in a Mou thread. Jose>>>>>Carlo.

Carlo did what he had to do though.

Did I ever question that?

I like two other managers better because of their style of play they implement in the team and personality simple.

But as you state, number and numbers. Just like numbers prove that Guardiola won more tittles in shorter time then Mourinho.

And I still don't like them as much as these two, but if Guardiola was here he would have my support.

But we have Mourinho and he has my support!

Guardiola was given the greatest Barca team, and one of the greatest clubs ever, Mou won with Porto and Inter. And he has succeeded in 4 different leagues, Pep had success with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta in Spain. He had a good 1st season in Germany with a Bayern squad that looked like it was gonna dominate football for years.

As for numbers:

Porto (2002–2004)

Primeira Liga (2)

Taça de Portugal (1)

Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

UEFA Cup (1)

Chelsea (2004–2007)

Premier League (2)

FA Cup (1)

Football League Cup (2)

Community Shield (1)

Internazionale (2008–2010)

Serie A (2)

Coppa Italia (1)

Supercoppa Italiana (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

Real Madrid (2010–2013)

La Liga (1)

Copa del Rey (1)

Supercopa de España (1)

When these other coaches win all the major trophies you can win in a league (excluding CL) multiple times they will be better than Mou. Or if they can win with one team for 25+ years, ala Sir Alex.

[Fernando 6,491]

Lol at people getting mad about comparing Mou and Carlo in a Mou thread. Jose>>>>>Carlo.

Carlo did what he had to do though.

Guardiola was given the greatest Barca team, and one of the greatest clubs ever, Mou won with Porto and Inter. And he has succeeded in 4 different leagues, Pep had success with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta in Spain. He had a good 1st season in Germany with a Bayern squad that looked like it was gonna dominate football for years.

As for numbers:

Porto (2002–2004)

Primeira Liga (2)

Taça de Portugal (1)

Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

UEFA Cup (1)

Chelsea (2004–2007)

Premier League (2)

FA Cup (1)

Football League Cup (2)

Community Shield (1)

Internazionale (2008–2010)

Serie A (2)

Coppa Italia (1)

Supercoppa Italiana (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

Real Madrid (2010–2013)

La Liga (1)

Copa del Rey (1)

Supercopa de España (1)

When these other coaches win all the major trophies you can win in a league (excluding CL) multiple times they will be better than Mou. Or if they can win with one team for 25+ years, ala Sir Alex.

Not going to bother debating since your clearly a big mourinho fan as your already bias to the numbers.

Is like debating with an arsenal fan vs a Chelsea fan which of their team is best.

[iseah100 5,612]

Not going to bother debating since your clearly a big mourinho fan as your already bias to the numbers.

Is like debating with an arsenal fan vs a Chelsea fan which of their team is best.

How? What has Pep done to be better than Pep? Klopp is better than Mou. Carlo is solid, but not on the level of Mou, Alex, Rijkaard, etc.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

How? What has Pep done to be better than Pep? Klopp is better than Pep. Carlo is solid, but not on the level of Mou, Alex, Rijkaard, etc.

[iseah100 5,612]

Mou.* fuckkkkk me. >_

[Tomo 21,733]

Lol at people getting mad about comparing Mou and Carlo in a Mou thread. Jose>>>>>Carlo.

Carlo did what he had to do though.


Guardiola was given the greatest Barca team, and one of the greatest clubs ever, Mou won with Porto and Inter. And he has succeeded in 4 different leagues, Pep had success with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta in Spain. He had a good 1st season in Germany with a Bayern squad that looked like it was gonna dominate football for years.


As for numbers:
Porto (2002–2004)

Primeira Liga (2)
Taça de Portugal (1)
Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1)
UEFA Champions League (1)
UEFA Cup (1)

Chelsea (2004–2007)

Premier League (2)
FA Cup (1)
Football League Cup (2)
Community Shield (1)

Internazionale (2008–2010)

Serie A (2)
Coppa Italia (1)
Supercoppa Italiana (1)
UEFA Champions League (1)

Real Madrid (2010–2013)

La Liga (1)
Copa del Rey (1)
Supercopa de España (1)



When these other coaches win all the major trophies you can win in a league (excluding CL) multiple times they will be better than Mou. Or if they can win with one team for 25+ years, ala Sir Alex.

I agree re Jose but the myth that Pep walked into an already great Barca team just simply isn't true.

[Barbara 15,149]

Yes, Carlo did what Mourinho couldn't. With the team RM already had we can't really talk about Isco, Bale, Illara when he already had Alonso, di Maria, Ronaldo, Benz, Pipita, Ozil... RM had a great team and Carlo actually improved Madrid's tactics. He played Alonso and Modric in their rightful positions imo, he moved di María to a third man position in the midfield that was surprising. He took a lot of risks. I cursed his moves a lot at the beginning of the season because he wouldn't make changes when his ideas weren't being much productive, but he was right. He was sticking to his ideas and it paid off with La Décima. His RM though was a shame in La Liga. They should have won it, but they tanked in the last 4-5 games... it was sort of ridiculous some of their games, but I'm not sure if it wasn't because their minds were already in UCL final. There has been an obsession at Madrid with winning La Décima. Good thing it's behind the club now.

I didn't follow much of RM this season because I still have many issues with Florentino Crazy Perez, but the Bale signing paid off and well, good for RM...

I don't discredit Mourinho to losing to the teams he did in all those lost UCL SF, but I do think he needs to improve his repertoire. He's been a bit stuck in the same tactics and systems and he needs to adapt better and start offering answers when we need them. I prefer Carlo's RM to Mourinho's, partially because of more suitable (not better or worse) tactics and because he didn't have half of the dressing room against him like Mou did. Mou did nothing wrong to those mother fuckers that went against him. He was doing his job and they weren't doing theirs properly... but shit like this happens (it happened here too) and everyone involved payed for it.

It'll have a special taste to succeed RM as UCL champions Maybe even over them

Well done Carlo, but I think Mourinho did a good job at RM especially given the circumstances after the dressing room was missed.

[1chelsea 864]

Yes, Carlo did what Mourinho couldn't. With the team RM already had we can't really talk about Isco, Bale, Illara when he already had Alonso, di Maria, Ronaldo, Benz, Pipita, Ozil... RM had a great team and Carlo actually improved Madrid's tactics. He played Alonso and Modric in their rightful positions imo, he moved di María to a third man position in the midfield that was surprising. He took a lot of risks. I cursed his moves a lot at the beginning of the season because he wouldn't make changes when his ideas weren't being much productive, but he was right. He was sticking to his ideas and it paid off with La Décima. His RM though was a shame in La Liga. They should have won it, but they tanked in the last 4-5 games... it was sort of ridiculous some of their games, but I'm not sure if it wasn't because their minds were already in UCL final. There has been an obsession at Madrid with winning La Décima. Good thing it's behind the club now.

I didn't follow much of RM this season because I still have many issues with Florentino Crazy Perez, but the Bale signing paid off and well, good for RM...

I don't discredit Mourinho to losing to the teams he did in all those lost UCL SF, but I do think he needs to improve his repertoire. He's been a bit stuck in the same tactics and systems and he needs to adapt better and start offering answers when we need them. I prefer Carlo's RM to Mourinho's, partially because of more suitable (not better or worse) tactics and because he didn't have half of the dressing room against him like Mou did. Mou did nothing wrong to those mother fuckers that went against him. He was doing his job and they weren't doing theirs properly... but shit like this happens (it happened here too) and everyone involved payed for it.

It'll have a special taste to succeed RM as UCL champions Maybe even over them

Well done Carlo, but I think Mourinho did a good job at RM especially given the circumstances after the dressing room was missed.

this one reason I don't want real to win the champions league with Carlo first spell the stone thrown at Jose will speak move mountain

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Well done Carlo, but I think Mourinho did a good job at RM especially given the circumstances after the dressing room was missed.

I don't like to get into this debate atm because Jose just went through a trophy less season with us while Carlo just won a double so there are bound to be bias from both sides but this last point of you is in a way criticizing Jose. They don't start it unless Jose did something,which he clearly seems to do as almost every single top player at Real was mad with him in the end.

You should read that new book by Diego Torres written about Jose, seems to have some element of truth behind it even though he aimed to slate Jose throughout the whole book. Jose basically once abused Pedro Leon for no reason and tried to sign Hudo Ameilda(spelling) for Real LOL.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Guardiola would never make a team like the Porto of Mou win the Champions League. He has already worsened Bayern's already perfect squad. What a dumb overrated prick Gaydiola is..

I wouldn't say he's overrated as such, I mean he is very knowledgeable but I do agree with you. Mourinho won things with Porto and Inter Milan weren't they weren't in a position to win such things. What Porto and Inter did in Europe especially goes a long way to his pedigree and that's why Real Madrid came calling for him.

Pep has taken an easy route in Germany, come on Bayern are the premier house in Germany right now because he's got them when Ribery, Robben, Schweini etc have matured. Until he takes charge of a team who's not challenging yet and reaches unexpected heights I don't think he can be put in the same bracket as Mourinho.

[Rom2013 446]

I don't like to get into this debate atm because Jose just went through a trophy less season with us while Carlo just won a double so there are bound to be bias from both sides but this last point of you is in a way criticizing Jose. They don't start it unless Jose did something,which he clearly seems to do as almost every single top player at Real was mad with him in the end.

You should read that new book by Diego Torres written about Jose, seems to have some element of truth behind it even though he aimed to slate Jose throughout the whole book. Jose basically once abused Pedro Leon for no reason and tried to sign Hudo Ameilda(spelling) for Real LOL.

You need to know who is Diego Torres (you know who is Jorge Valdano?), Manolo Lama, Alfredo Relaño and some others.

One example, is the opinion of Mr Palomar (chief Marca journalist): "Mourinho is the typical person that would leave the scene of of an accident produced by him" (Marca).

Another great one from Boyero a journalist that works in the same paper of Diego Torres (El Pais) :"A very dangerous person. He (Mourinho) knows the metodology to bring the worst out of people. Football should be a sport played by men, not by beasts. The portuguese Nazi want football to be played by beasts."

That's the kind of person that wrote that wonderful book, because Mr Torres has a bigger problem with Mourinho... You know... Valdano had a 2.4M€/season contract in Real Madrid.

[José1893 89]

"Mourinho is the typical person that would leave the scene of of an accident produced by him".

What a ridiculous and bitchy statement. The culprit was sued by Mou. The Marca started a campaign against Mourinho during his spell because Mourinho was the first coach to question Marca's power in Real Madrid. Mr Palomar also referred to Mourinho as a 'Nazi'. Mourinho filed a case against him and Palomar had to promise that he wouldn't say such things again and accepted a painful punishment. Such bastards at Marca. Hijos de puta

[Joker10 946]

Yes, Carlo did what Mourinho couldn't. With the team RM already had we can't really talk about Isco, Bale, Illara when he already had Alonso, di Maria, Ronaldo, Benz, Pipita, Ozil... RM had a great team and Carlo actually improved Madrid's tactics. He played Alonso and Modric in their rightful positions imo, he moved di María to a third man position in the midfield that was surprising. He took a lot of risks. I cursed his moves a lot at the beginning of the season because he wouldn't make changes when his ideas weren't being much productive, but he was right. He was sticking to his ideas and it paid off with La Décima. His RM though was a shame in La Liga. They should have won it, but they tanked in the last 4-5 games... it was sort of ridiculous some of their games, but I'm not sure if it wasn't because their minds were already in UCL final. There has been an obsession at Madrid with winning La Décima. Good thing it's behind the club now.

I didn't follow much of RM this season because I still have many issues with Florentino Crazy Perez, but the Bale signing paid off and well, good for RM...

I don't discredit Mourinho to losing to the teams he did in all those lost UCL SF, but I do think he needs to improve his repertoire. He's been a bit stuck in the same tactics and systems and he needs to adapt better and start offering answers when we need them. I prefer Carlo's RM to Mourinho's, partially because of more suitable (not better or worse) tactics and because he didn't have half of the dressing room against him like Mou did. Mou did nothing wrong to those mother fuckers that went against him. He was doing his job and they weren't doing theirs properly... but shit like this happens (it happened here too) and everyone involved payed for it.

It'll have a special taste to succeed RM as UCL champions Maybe even over them

Well done Carlo, but I think Mourinho did a good job at RM especially given the circumstances after the dressing room was missed.

I am not sure why Mou never tried that. Probably stubbornness or maybe would have done that if he had Bale or another option on the LW. Some people(not pointing at you) act like Carlo reinvented Di maria or something, but i watched Argentina so many times last season where Di Maria flourished as a CM for them. Its not really a major surprise that he flourished as a CM at club level, the consistency he showed this season was for me surprising though.

I actually admire that trait of Carlo he is not stubborn as Mou and i feel like Mou let his ego get in the way. When Carlo was here he continued Guus experiment of Ivanovic on the right, playing Drogba+Anelka(RW), and Malouda continuation of form. That is a good management skill to have being able to adapt others idea. Sabella experimented Di Maria in midfield and he was a major success for the NT. If anyone should be credited for Di Maria transformation it should be him.

As for Carlo him winning the CL surpass Mou achievement at Madrid, he is a better manager for Madrid. But next season it will be interesting with La Dacima being achieved and being a major obsession with the club. Carlo has his work cut out for him in trying to keep that squad motivated.

[nowhereman 7]

Lol at people getting mad about comparing Mou and Carlo in a Mou thread. Jose>>>>>Carlo.

Carlo did what he had to do though.

Guardiola was given the greatest Barca team, and one of the greatest clubs ever, Mou won with Porto and Inter. And he has succeeded in 4 different leagues, Pep had success with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta in Spain. He had a good 1st season in Germany with a Bayern squad that looked like it was gonna dominate football for years.

As for numbers:

Porto (2002–2004)

Primeira Liga (2)

Taça de Portugal (1)

Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

UEFA Cup (1)

Chelsea (2004–2007)

Premier League (2)

FA Cup (1)

Football League Cup (2)

Community Shield (1)

Internazionale (2008–2010)

Serie A (2)

Coppa Italia (1)

Supercoppa Italiana (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

Real Madrid (2010–2013)

La Liga (1)

Copa del Rey (1)

Supercopa de España (1)

When these other coaches win all the major trophies you can win in a league (excluding CL) multiple times they will be better than Mou. Or if they can win with one team for 25+ years, ala Sir Alex.

Lol, the fanboyism is strong with this one. So what happened when Mourinho was given squads much better than Porto's and Inter's at Chelsea and Real, let me spell it out for you, 6 CL semis, 0 win, zilch, nada, naught, 1 cup and 1 copa with hundreds of millions of dollars spent in 3 years. The truth is, Jose is sort of a one trick pony, albeit he's extremely good at this trick. If he can't park the bus and has to play attacking football, his team will struggle. For this reason, he has been and will succeed at teams aiming to upset the established order like Chelsea (his first stint), Inter, Porto, etc. but he has been and will fail at teams which are expected to play with dignity and flair like Real.

[didierforever 7,349]

Lol, the fanboyism is strong with this one. So what happened when Mourinho was given squads much better than Porto's and Inter's at Chelsea and Real, let me spell it out for you, 6 CL semis, 0 win, zilch, nada, naught, 1 cup and 1 copa with hundreds of millions of dollars spent in 3 years. The truth is, Jose is sort of a one trick pony, albeit he's extremely good at this trick. If he can't park the bus and has to play attacking football, his team will struggle. For this reason, he has been and will succeed at teams aiming to upset the established order like Chelsea (his first stint), Inter, Porto, etc. but he has been and will fail at teams which are expected to play with dignity and flair like Real.

And the idiotism is strong with this one. So tell me how exactly jose's team in RM struggled with playing attacking football despite the fact that they scored more than a 100 goals. Were all those goals on the counter???

Now lets take a look at jose in the CL

2010-inter milan win

2011- RM semi with a fiasco of a match against barca

2012- RM seni. Lost on penalties

2013- RM semi. Very poor first leg from josr and the players. Could have overturned the 4-1 deficit within first 10 minutes if not for higuain's poor finishing.

2014- Chelsea semi without a decent striker after we got knocked out of the group stages last season.

Yet somehow this ACHIEVEMENT is being used against jose. What a

[The Skipper 20,593]

https://twitter.com/Mourinhoesque/status/470811452639809536

[Jase 43,479]

No wonder Mourinho is referred to as The Special One. Anything and everything will also be about Mourinho, even when it's not to begin with. People are just obsessed.