The Mourinho Thread

[Joker10 946]

we parked the bus and won

We also sabotaged the league and came in 6th.

Manchester United was very close winning against Munich and could of potentially ran the table...

Seriously what is your agenda? is it Carlo>Mou?

I am not the biggest fan of parking the bus and noted quite a bit on this forum. Parking the bus is much tougher then giving credit for, ask Simeone. I don't know if it was just me but i had the sense that it was only a matter of time before Madrid leveled it. They created a lot of good opportunities. As for our run, Barca and Bayern had nowhere the success of infiltrating our parked bus. If winning the CL came down to just parking the bus then ffs we would see a lot of teams winning that way. As i said earlier i am not big fan of parking the bus, because you never want to play on your back foot+be reactive best way to keep the other team at bay is by being aggressive+proactive.

Let me also paint you the picture of how great our run was under RDM because you seem to think "We parked the bus and won." He took over against Napoli down 3-1 aggravates and turned the tide by winning 4-1 at Stamford bridge. just parked the bus you say. In the semi-final we faced a still great Barca side. That Barca side is still much better then last season Barca and this year Barca. Xavi was still playing at a high level and undoubtedly still at his best; past two season he is shadow of the best CM in the world. We went down to 10 men in the worst place possible in Camp Nou and came out on top. Then in the final we were without Ramires, Ivanovic, Terry, and Meireles. Absolutely we beat every odd possible and if it wasn't bad evil Chelsea that side would get so much more respect and appreciation by the media and critics. I honestly don't care for this Mou vs Carlo nonsense, but i find it disgusting for a Chelsea supporter to downplay RDM success and our CL run just to prove some dumb agenda.Coming off as a fair weathered supporter.

Your United remark is clutching at straws tbh. In what world can someone consider United CL run close lol. First they did not beat Bayern, second they would still had to play Madrid, and then thirdly they had to play Alti which is a bad matchup for anyone who try to park the bus. They didn't even come close to reaching their biggest hurdle.

[Namika 922]

Carlo has won a CL, congratule Carlo. Why talk about José ? Everything has to be about him or what ?

[Fernando 6,585]

Carlo has won a CL, congratule Carlo. Why talk about José ? Everything has to be about him or what ?

So it seems, people are obsess with him.....

[zolayes 14,489]

It often seems we are only allowed to praise two Chelsea coaches ,, Jose and Hiddink .. At least I think we are allowed to praise

Hiddink.

[Fernando 6,585]

It often seems we are only allowed to praise two Chelsea coaches ,, Jose and Hiddink .. At least I think we are allowed to praise

Hiddink.

I actually like Hiddink and Carlo better then Mourinho, cause unlike Mourinho they don't have to resort to shenanigans mind games speaking a bunch of bullshit to win.

If you are good, you are good no matter what a fool might say.

That being said, our current coach is Mourinho and while I might not agree with him in everything and is not my favorite coach he has my support.

It's better to support then saying I wish this manager and so and so was here....

[Rom2013 446]

I actually like Hiddink and Carlo better then Mourinho, cause unlike Mourinho they don't have to resort to shenanigans mind games speaking a bunch of bullshit to win.

If you are good, you are good no matter what a fool might say.

That being said, our current coach is Mourinho and while I might not agree with him in everything and is not my favorite coach he has my support.

It's better to support then saying I wish this manager and so and so was here....

Yes, But about what really matters in a coach... 20 tittles in 12 years, for example a Champions League with a team that cost for sure less then 20M£.

I like Sharapova more than Mourinho, she is really wonderful.

[Fernando 6,585]

Yes, But about what really matters in a coach... 20 tittles in 12 years, for example a Champions League with a team that cost for sure less then 20M£.

I like Sharapova more than Mourinho, she is really wonderful.

Guardiola has more tittles in less time yet I'm not wanking over him every second.

[Rom2013 446]

Guardiola has more in less time yet I'm not wanking over him every second.

Congratulations for him... This topic is about Mourinho, if you have any problem about it, tell that to the person that came here to talk about Ancelotti.

You can like more Ancelotti or Hiddink but for sure they are not better coaches than Mourinho. The numbers prove it.

The day a coach wins a Champions League with a team that cost for sure less than 20M£ you can come here and try to compare him with Mourinho

[Fernando 6,585]

Congratulations for him... This topic is about Mourinho, if you have any problem about it, tell that to the person that came here to talk about Ancelotti.

You can like more Ancelotti or Hiddink but for sure they are not better coaches than Mourinho. The numbers prove it.

The day a coach wins a Champions League with a team that cost for sure less than 20M£ you can come here try to compare him with Mourinho

Did I ever question that?

I like two other managers better because of their style of play they implement in the team and personality simple.

But as you state, number and numbers. Just like numbers prove that Guardiola won more tittles in shorter time then Mourinho.

And I still don't like them as much as these two, but if Guardiola was here he would have my support.

But we have Mourinho and he has my support!

[José1893 89]

Guardiola would never make a team like the Porto of Mou win the Champions League. He has already worsened Bayern's already perfect squad. What a dumb overrated prick Gaydiola is..

[iseah100 5,612]

Lol at people getting mad about comparing Mou and Carlo in a Mou thread. Jose>>>>>Carlo.

Carlo did what he had to do though.

Did I ever question that?

I like two other managers better because of their style of play they implement in the team and personality simple.

But as you state, number and numbers. Just like numbers prove that Guardiola won more tittles in shorter time then Mourinho.

And I still don't like them as much as these two, but if Guardiola was here he would have my support.

But we have Mourinho and he has my support!

Guardiola was given the greatest Barca team, and one of the greatest clubs ever, Mou won with Porto and Inter. And he has succeeded in 4 different leagues, Pep had success with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta in Spain. He had a good 1st season in Germany with a Bayern squad that looked like it was gonna dominate football for years.

As for numbers:

Porto (2002–2004)

Primeira Liga (2)

Taça de Portugal (1)

Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

UEFA Cup (1)

Chelsea (2004–2007)

Premier League (2)

FA Cup (1)

Football League Cup (2)

Community Shield (1)

Internazionale (2008–2010)

Serie A (2)

Coppa Italia (1)

Supercoppa Italiana (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

Real Madrid (2010–2013)

La Liga (1)

Copa del Rey (1)

Supercopa de España (1)

When these other coaches win all the major trophies you can win in a league (excluding CL) multiple times they will be better than Mou. Or if they can win with one team for 25+ years, ala Sir Alex.

[Fernando 6,585]

Lol at people getting mad about comparing Mou and Carlo in a Mou thread. Jose>>>>>Carlo.

Carlo did what he had to do though.

Guardiola was given the greatest Barca team, and one of the greatest clubs ever, Mou won with Porto and Inter. And he has succeeded in 4 different leagues, Pep had success with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta in Spain. He had a good 1st season in Germany with a Bayern squad that looked like it was gonna dominate football for years.

As for numbers:

Porto (2002–2004)

Primeira Liga (2)

Taça de Portugal (1)

Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

UEFA Cup (1)

Chelsea (2004–2007)

Premier League (2)

FA Cup (1)

Football League Cup (2)

Community Shield (1)

Internazionale (2008–2010)

Serie A (2)

Coppa Italia (1)

Supercoppa Italiana (1)

UEFA Champions League (1)

Real Madrid (2010–2013)

La Liga (1)

Copa del Rey (1)

Supercopa de España (1)

When these other coaches win all the major trophies you can win in a league (excluding CL) multiple times they will be better than Mou. Or if they can win with one team for 25+ years, ala Sir Alex.

Not going to bother debating since your clearly a big mourinho fan as your already bias to the numbers.

Is like debating with an arsenal fan vs a Chelsea fan which of their team is best.

[iseah100 5,612]

Not going to bother debating since your clearly a big mourinho fan as your already bias to the numbers.

Is like debating with an arsenal fan vs a Chelsea fan which of their team is best.

How? What has Pep done to be better than Pep? Klopp is better than Mou. Carlo is solid, but not on the level of Mou, Alex, Rijkaard, etc.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

How? What has Pep done to be better than Pep? Klopp is better than Pep. Carlo is solid, but not on the level of Mou, Alex, Rijkaard, etc.

[iseah100 5,612]

Mou.* fuckkkkk me. >_

[Tomo 21,751]

Lol at people getting mad about comparing Mou and Carlo in a Mou thread. Jose>>>>>Carlo.

Carlo did what he had to do though.


Guardiola was given the greatest Barca team, and one of the greatest clubs ever, Mou won with Porto and Inter. And he has succeeded in 4 different leagues, Pep had success with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta in Spain. He had a good 1st season in Germany with a Bayern squad that looked like it was gonna dominate football for years.


As for numbers:
Porto (2002–2004)

Primeira Liga (2)
Taça de Portugal (1)
Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1)
UEFA Champions League (1)
UEFA Cup (1)

Chelsea (2004–2007)

Premier League (2)
FA Cup (1)
Football League Cup (2)
Community Shield (1)

Internazionale (2008–2010)

Serie A (2)
Coppa Italia (1)
Supercoppa Italiana (1)
UEFA Champions League (1)

Real Madrid (2010–2013)

La Liga (1)
Copa del Rey (1)
Supercopa de España (1)



When these other coaches win all the major trophies you can win in a league (excluding CL) multiple times they will be better than Mou. Or if they can win with one team for 25+ years, ala Sir Alex.

I agree re Jose but the myth that Pep walked into an already great Barca team just simply isn't true.

[Barbara 15,149]

Yes, Carlo did what Mourinho couldn't. With the team RM already had we can't really talk about Isco, Bale, Illara when he already had Alonso, di Maria, Ronaldo, Benz, Pipita, Ozil... RM had a great team and Carlo actually improved Madrid's tactics. He played Alonso and Modric in their rightful positions imo, he moved di María to a third man position in the midfield that was surprising. He took a lot of risks. I cursed his moves a lot at the beginning of the season because he wouldn't make changes when his ideas weren't being much productive, but he was right. He was sticking to his ideas and it paid off with La Décima. His RM though was a shame in La Liga. They should have won it, but they tanked in the last 4-5 games... it was sort of ridiculous some of their games, but I'm not sure if it wasn't because their minds were already in UCL final. There has been an obsession at Madrid with winning La Décima. Good thing it's behind the club now.

I didn't follow much of RM this season because I still have many issues with Florentino Crazy Perez, but the Bale signing paid off and well, good for RM...

I don't discredit Mourinho to losing to the teams he did in all those lost UCL SF, but I do think he needs to improve his repertoire. He's been a bit stuck in the same tactics and systems and he needs to adapt better and start offering answers when we need them. I prefer Carlo's RM to Mourinho's, partially because of more suitable (not better or worse) tactics and because he didn't have half of the dressing room against him like Mou did. Mou did nothing wrong to those mother fuckers that went against him. He was doing his job and they weren't doing theirs properly... but shit like this happens (it happened here too) and everyone involved payed for it.

It'll have a special taste to succeed RM as UCL champions Maybe even over them

Well done Carlo, but I think Mourinho did a good job at RM especially given the circumstances after the dressing room was missed.

[1chelsea 864]

Yes, Carlo did what Mourinho couldn't. With the team RM already had we can't really talk about Isco, Bale, Illara when he already had Alonso, di Maria, Ronaldo, Benz, Pipita, Ozil... RM had a great team and Carlo actually improved Madrid's tactics. He played Alonso and Modric in their rightful positions imo, he moved di María to a third man position in the midfield that was surprising. He took a lot of risks. I cursed his moves a lot at the beginning of the season because he wouldn't make changes when his ideas weren't being much productive, but he was right. He was sticking to his ideas and it paid off with La Décima. His RM though was a shame in La Liga. They should have won it, but they tanked in the last 4-5 games... it was sort of ridiculous some of their games, but I'm not sure if it wasn't because their minds were already in UCL final. There has been an obsession at Madrid with winning La Décima. Good thing it's behind the club now.

I didn't follow much of RM this season because I still have many issues with Florentino Crazy Perez, but the Bale signing paid off and well, good for RM...

I don't discredit Mourinho to losing to the teams he did in all those lost UCL SF, but I do think he needs to improve his repertoire. He's been a bit stuck in the same tactics and systems and he needs to adapt better and start offering answers when we need them. I prefer Carlo's RM to Mourinho's, partially because of more suitable (not better or worse) tactics and because he didn't have half of the dressing room against him like Mou did. Mou did nothing wrong to those mother fuckers that went against him. He was doing his job and they weren't doing theirs properly... but shit like this happens (it happened here too) and everyone involved payed for it.

It'll have a special taste to succeed RM as UCL champions Maybe even over them

Well done Carlo, but I think Mourinho did a good job at RM especially given the circumstances after the dressing room was missed.

this one reason I don't want real to win the champions league with Carlo first spell the stone thrown at Jose will speak move mountain

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Well done Carlo, but I think Mourinho did a good job at RM especially given the circumstances after the dressing room was missed.

I don't like to get into this debate atm because Jose just went through a trophy less season with us while Carlo just won a double so there are bound to be bias from both sides but this last point of you is in a way criticizing Jose. They don't start it unless Jose did something,which he clearly seems to do as almost every single top player at Real was mad with him in the end.

You should read that new book by Diego Torres written about Jose, seems to have some element of truth behind it even though he aimed to slate Jose throughout the whole book. Jose basically once abused Pedro Leon for no reason and tried to sign Hudo Ameilda(spelling) for Real LOL.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Guardiola would never make a team like the Porto of Mou win the Champions League. He has already worsened Bayern's already perfect squad. What a dumb overrated prick Gaydiola is..

I wouldn't say he's overrated as such, I mean he is very knowledgeable but I do agree with you. Mourinho won things with Porto and Inter Milan weren't they weren't in a position to win such things. What Porto and Inter did in Europe especially goes a long way to his pedigree and that's why Real Madrid came calling for him.

Pep has taken an easy route in Germany, come on Bayern are the premier house in Germany right now because he's got them when Ribery, Robben, Schweini etc have matured. Until he takes charge of a team who's not challenging yet and reaches unexpected heights I don't think he can be put in the same bracket as Mourinho.