bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 On one hand, it is probably mind game and his intentions were clearly to take the pressure off the team and heap it onto City. He would be telling the players the opposite thing. But of course, this could have gone either way. If we are in a strong position to win the title like Liverpool now, people would be praising him for doing that but since we are not, people are obviously slam him for saying such things (and some have probably enjoyed it). Hindsight is a wonderful thing, eh?On the other hand, was it even wrong of Mourinho to say what he did in the media? The issues with this team are clear and any blind fella can even see it themselves but people, more often than not, like to call it mind games, criticize Mourinho etc for saying it because he's MourinhoI would rather see Jose not saying anything about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 For our players and the fans, the growth we'll experience because of this 'pain' is going to make us stronger. We'll channel this loss and come back next year with more purpose and drive. We needed to lose for that. It's more beneficial in the long-term.I won't get into the manager debate. Jose makes his mistakes, that's for sure. But his love for the club is more apparent to me then pretty much any other manager in any other club at this level. It's cliche, but he's one of us. Even if he's not the best, I want to keep him. His heart and drive, combined with his talent and genius, is more than enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Not sure if this has already been posted but the linesman is from Liverpool. No wonder he didn't give a foul for the push on Ramires for the header (which would've been a penalty red card), disallowed Terry's goal because of an apparent 'push' by Matic and awarded them a penalty when Altidore essentially dived. Unbelievable.02https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jake-collin/35/659/560http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/other-sport/corinthian-jake-collin-journey-city-3382790Unfuckinbelievable!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 231 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 On one hand, it is probably mind game and his intentions were clearly to take the pressure off the team and heap it onto City. He would be telling the players the opposite thing. But of course, this could have gone either way. If we are in a strong position to win the title like Liverpool now, people would be praising him for doing that but since we are not, people are obviously slam him for saying such things (and some have probably enjoyed it). Hindsight is a wonderful thing, eh?On the other hand, was it even wrong of Mourinho to say what he did in the media? The issues with this team are clear and any blind fella can even see it themselves but people, more often than not, like to call it mind games, criticize Mourinho etc for saying it because he's MourinhoJust seen you basically said the same thing I said 20 minutes before me. Really should refresh that page before I post!Bushman I think the what was accomplished in the conference was a public display of support for the players. Again with a real world example, if your buddy has a disagreement with someone you usually back your buddy up then tell him when he's away from the spotlight what your real opinion is. But in public you support him. Jose supported the players in public. Whether he meant it or not will have been determined in the dressing room. Secondly, he accomplished making his feelings and thoughts on the referees clear. He was clearly upset and maybe it was heat of the moment statements but they had been said and he has to stick by them. I don't see why referees should get away with it all the time. They should be called out. I still don't agree it's all their fault but they shouldn't be getting away with such poor performances. darrus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Just seen you basically said the same thing I said 20 minutes before me. Really should refresh that page before I post!Bushman I think the what was accomplished in the conference was a public display of support for the players. Again with a real world example, if your buddy has a disagreement with someone you usually back your buddy up then tell him when he's away from the spotlight what your real opinion is. But in public you support him. Jose supported the players in public. Whether he meant it or not will have been determined in the dressing room.Secondly, he accomplished making his feelings and thoughts on the referees clear. He was clearly upset and maybe it was heat of the moment statements but they had been said and he has to stick by them. I don't see why referees should get away with it all the time. They should be called out. I still don't agree it's all their fault but they shouldn't be getting away with such poor performances.Somehow, you are missing the whole fucking point. I was not talking about last night´s Jose only. I am talking about his PC over the whole season. He has accomplished fuck all by talking shit only. He only alienated FA, media... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Tbh, i think everything around Jose is exaggerated. Going both ways.When we win its because of Mourniho. When we lose its because of Mourinho.This isn't true. Mourinho has been very useful in improving our defensive solidity unifying the team and been his usual self. But he isn't responsible for every loss the same way he isn't responsible for every win. Mohammed Seif, kellzfresh and darrus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Loaning out lukaku, Alienating and selling kdb, selling Mata to man fn Utd and keeping Ramirez on the field regardless of his ability/performance. I hold all these against him...but i love the guy and believe he's a great coach to have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted April 20, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 20, 2014 I would rather see Jose not saying anything about it. Yeah...then I'm sure people will still complain about his quietness and for not saying anything. People will always find fault with Mourinho, one way or another... Polo7, Sheva., kellzfresh and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Yeah...then I'm sure people will still complain about his quietness and for not saying anything. People will always find fault with Mourinho, one way or another...Personally, I do not need to look for faults with Jose. I already know about them. Just shut up or send somebody else to talk to the media. We both know, Jose is not well liked in England, most people are happy to see him dropping points, not winning anything, his reputation is not the brightest as soon as he opens his mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 726 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 All we want is a better brand of football.Jose is experienced enough and a great manager.It is not that he can not play such football, but simply whether he will want to play that brand of exciting footy vs an efficient style.I hope its the former next season. Who said we cant win the league playing some sexy stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinAshburner 1,270 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 it is only matter of time that Jose Mourinho will be sacked. Mourinho has lost his spark and Interestingness and I am tired of him and I knew that it was not a good idea for him to come back. Number 1 rule in football never bring back old players or old Managers that have played or been apart of the Team before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Number 1 rule in football never bring back old players or old Managers that have played or been apart of the Team before. So you're against Matic too then? Mohammed Seif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 years? Nope. maybe 1-2 at mostHis decline started after the double for me, since then any direct winger has had him tripping over himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 it is only matter of time that Jose Mourinho will be sacked. Mourinho has lost his spark and Interestingness and I am tired of him and I knew that it was not a good idea for him to come back. Number 1 rule in football never bring back old players or old Managers that have played or been apart of the Team before.Perhaps, it´s time to eat your kiwis, instead of....? darrus and Ainsley Harriott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 231 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Somehow, you are missing the whole fucking point. I was not talking about last night´s Jose only. I am talking about his PC over the whole season. He has accomplished fuck all by talking shit only. He only alienated FA, media...I'm not missing the 'fucking' point.' My point still stands. Press conferences are mostly for show. If he doesn't speak he would be hounded by the media and they would slate him saying he doesn't have respect for the fans etc. Some managers have accomplished fuck all by being nice and full of roses all season. You don't like or agree with his style that's fine. Everyone has different views. A JM conference didn't end the world. The other thing you will find with people where English is not their first language is that they are often blunt and straight to the point because it's simply a direct translation without decoration. Manuel Pellegrini can be blunt which could come across as 'shit talk' but nobody is jumping down his throat. darrus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I'm not missing the 'fucking' point. My point still stands. Press conferences are mostly for show. If he doesn't speak he would be hounded by the media and they would slate him saying he doesn't have respect for the fans etc.Some managers have accomplished fuck all by being nice and full of roses all season.You don't like or agree with his style that's fine. Everyone has different views. A JM conference didn't end the world.The other thing you will find with people where English is not their first language is that they are often blunt and straight to the point because it's simply a direct translation without decoration. Manuel Pellegrini can be blunt which could come across as 'shit talk' but nobody is jumping down his throat.Yes, you are missing it big time. Jose needs to learn how to talk at these PC. If his English is not good enough, then he should take some PR lessons. Those in public are well advised by professionals & Jose could use one, badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 231 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Yes, you are missing it big time. Jose needs to learn how to talk at these PC. If his English is not good enough, then he should take some PR lessons. Those in public are well advised by professionals & Jose could use one, badly.He could be busy managing a football team. Maybe he's saying things exactly how he wants to say them? You just don't like it. Years down the line. Or even weeks from now, nobody is going to be going on about what Jose said after the Sunderland game. They will be talking about end results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! hjperdeath 2,226 Posted April 20, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 20, 2014 Jose said what we all wanted to say.. He literally does symbolify what the club is all about. Us against the world if you want me to make it cheesy.If we wanted someone who could speak well in PC's, then Carlo would have been here. He's literally the lovechild of a PR maniac and an idealist. Viper22, darrus, Jambo and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He could be busy managing a football team.Maybe he's saying things exactly how he wants to say them? You just don't like it.Years down the line. Or even weeks from now, nobody is going to be going on about what Jose said after the Sunderland game. They will be talking about end results.Are you reading it at all? I do not give a fuck what he had said yesterday only. I care what he has been saying for months.Now, if you cannot comprehend that, then we ought to stop it here. See you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted April 20, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 20, 2014 1 week ago after a great CL quarter final win - " Jose has done it again, what a manager! " 1 week later - " Jose will be sacked soon " Let's see your reaction when we reach the CL final, the Jose love fest will come again Viper22, didierforever, Polo7 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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