Jambo 231 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 thx mou for your PS last night. i was very mad and swear to not to read any media until ATM match, but his PS just made my day. He knows what the fans are feeling, and he represents us with talking like that, with getting risk being punished by FA. well done legend!I think he was deliberately careful with his words to ensure there is no comeback. Are they going to fine him for saying the "congratulations, the ref he had an unbelievable performance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 One thing Jose is at fault here. He is not an Englishman, therefore, he is not " one of us " applies here.His constant rhetorics with the media, does not sit well among these limeys. The payback was coming for months & the evidence is seen these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The biggest problem is creativity from center-midfield.Lampard isn't getting any younger, Ramires looks lost on the pitch half the time and Oscar is still maturing.We don't have that mature 25-28 year old creative midfielder anymore...Mata was that player but for whatever reasons, he just didn't fit Jose's systemWhat about Willian?? He is mature why isn't he making enough chances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 231 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 It was a very clear and deliberate display by the referee. It was just as bad, if not worse, than Chris Foy's performance in the Villa game.Its really frustrating when referees make a wrong decision that goes against us. We can't just blame that though. We should never be in positions against teams like Sunderland where a bad decision costs us the game. However the standard of refereeing is abysmal and it just keeps getting worse. These guys have more help than ever through technology and even extra man power to get decisions right, yet they get more wrong than ever before. Some of them have huge effects on games too... It's not just us that have felt the pain of poor refereeing. As much as I dislike Arsenal look at the whole Kieran Gibbs/Oxlade-Chamberlain debacle when we played them at the bridge. Sending off the wrong player all together. Awful, awful refereeing. It's time that these guys are held responsible for their actions/mistakes/blatant impartiality. Clubs/players/managers face consequences for their actions (or non-actions in some cases) but referees get away scot-free when they make a mistake. Azpinator and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 What about Willian?? He is mature why isn't he making enough chances? Willian actually created our best chances yesterday. The Chels, Reddish-Blue and zolayes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 We are just not good enough. Against Teams like sunderland we must to lead at least 2-0 at HT. It's a fucking championship title decisive game! We just like to pass pass pass around the box/ shoot like a shit outside the box and nothing else. wasting our time... boring, shit game... waiting for someone (hazard) to do some brilliant move... We were shit against sunderland, against Palace etc etc... TBF, We should lose to WBA earlier this season, and lose jose's record. like against palace, 1 good chance during the all match. it's a fucking disaster. we want to will the title like that?! and what a miss from ba yesterday. that tells the whole story of this season. too many ups and downs, especially from our "strikers". No Decent Full-backs, that can normally cross. Oscar is very weak this season. For next season- New stiker+ Lukaku.New LB, move azpi to right, Iva only as a CB.Ramires Out- new Creative CM.Oscar out for a good price ( if still anyone want to offer 40 mil for him)... Viper22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 We are just not good enough. Against Teams like sunderland we must to lead at least 2-0 at HT. It's a fucking championship title decisive game! We just like to pass pass pass around the box/ shoot like a shit outside the box and nothing else. wasting our time... boring, shit game... waiting for someone (hazard) to do some brilliant move... We were shit against sunderland, against Palace etc etc... TBF, We should lose to WBA earlier this season, and lose jose's record. like against palace, 1 good chance during the all match. it's a fucking disaster. we want to will the title like that?! and what a miss from ba yesterday. that tells the whole story of this season. too many ups and downs, especially from our "strikers". No Decent Full-backs, that can normally cross. Oscar is very weak this season. For next season- New stiker+ Lukaku.New LB, move azpi to right, Iva only as a CB.Ramires Out- new Creative CM.Oscar out for a good price ( if still anyone want to offer 40 mil for him)... Wish I could hit that like button more than once. It goes without saying I take it that Mikel, Torres, Ba, Eto'o & Marin are gone? Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Wish I could hit that like button more than once. It goes without saying I take it that Mikel, Torres, Ba, Eto'o & Marin are gone?Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Willian actually created our best chances yesterday.We didn't create enough yesterday. Willian didn't create enough so as Oscar and for me Salah was fine.(First half was the best AM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 We didn't create enough yesterday. Willian didn't make enough as usual.You're completely missing the point - Willian was the only one who created quality chances in the whole game for us and he isn't our primary creator to begin with. Saying he didn't create enough is ridiculous and stupid. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 You're completely missing the point - Willian was the only one who created quality chances in the whole game for us and he isn't our primary creator to begin with. Saying he didn't create enough is ridiculous and stupid.Mate, how can you tell me he made enough chances. First of all Willian did NOT create quality chances, he created a few but not enough that is the POINT. Stop saying that since he is not our primary creator (which is also incorrect in such a game) it's okay for him to create only a few chances. Clearly! He is not doing enough! He should be doing so much so much more!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 What we need is someone who can take set pieces. When Lampard isnt on the field we have absolutely no quality at corners. Remember how many we scored last season when we had Mata taking them? Our corners especially have been feeble and we have soo many every game. You would think our players would fucking practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Untouchable? Didn't he fail miserably at Real Madrid? This season hasn't been as great as you claim it is. A club that spends a huge amount of cash each summer is bound to have improvement eventually. Just like in 12/13 we did better than 11/12 in the league, this season we're doing better than 12/13 in the League. There's BOUND to be improvement. If you want to see real improvement look what Rodgers has done. This is a club that was 7th last year and has ended up top of the table. A team that hasn't seen Champions League football for ages. That's improvement! Moreover, he's done it by spending half the money Chelsea and City have this season in the transfer market. Not just has he improved the team but they are winning AND playing good football.Then you might disagree with that by saying we have sold many players too but even after you deduct Transfer Revenues from players bought, they are still half of us and almost 4 times less than City. A striker will convert chances but there are so many games such as Swansea where against 10 MEN we struggled to create decent chances. A game where so many people here were so confidently saying we'd thrash Swansea.Didn't u say at the beginning of the season with great confidence that Madrid would miserably fail and be MUCH worse than Mourinho last season? Ancelotti's already done a much better job. And he's encouraged youth players like Jese, Casemiro etc.I said i can't see them winning the league for the forseeable future something i stick by. He didn't fail miserably at Madrid, his third season was a bit underwhelming but the first 2 he did remarkably considering the side he was up against. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 haranr and duren batu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 In hindsight what he and Rui Faria did yesterday really wasn't clever at all. I'm expecting Mourinho to get a possible touchline ban as this is the second offence of his this season (although the Villa one was a load of bollocks) especially as he directly questioned the competency of the FA and Mike Riley. Faria was just pretty childish to be honest. There is a right and wrong way to show passion and that was certainly the wrong way. If Wenger, Rodgers, Moyes did that we'd probably be calling it disgraceful. chelseathebest and The only place to be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Liquid, Were you watching the game? You sometimes need to watch them games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 It still remains to be seen if our playing style will improve when (if) we bring in Diego Costa. I doubt it, because it's a fundamental issue that goes beyond the striker. The way Jose sets up his team is fundamentally flawed and that fundamental flaw is exposed time and time again against teams that are happy to give us the ball. You can't play Azpiliecueta at LB week in week out because it's not fair on the player. Ashley has had his "punishment" so it's time for him to come back. That slip and fall Azpi had is NOT happening if he's playing his natural position. Anyone who has ever played before can tell you it's harder to check back from your weaker foot to your higher foot. Something similar also happened in the PSG away league for that 3rd goal. Azpiliecueta has been getting caught out with a lot of high balls, but no one ever says anything. He has to return to his natural, most comfortable position.Same with Ivanovic. He's a CB, not a RB. He is not very fast so he rarely gets in behind his full-back. He is not technically gifted so he looks clumsy in possession as most CB's are. Once he gets forward, he just lumps hopeless crosses into the box that create zero threat. He and Azpilicueta are a waste of space offensively and also are starting to look not so solid anymore. Goals against Palace, PSG and today. And Ramires, dear oh dear. He is not good enough to be a starter in a passing team. It's been said a zillion times. He should be a squad player like Mikel is nowadaysWe need to be proactive in the transfer window. We must do everything possible to buy Costa, Kroos and Shaw. We can't afford fuck ups in the market any longer. Man United are going to spend a shit ton of money. City are going to improve and Liverpool are going to go to a different level now that they will have CL football and can attract better players. Punishment for what? The Arsenal party? he was dropped a month and a half before that incident.Cole has been poor for years now. Stats, Mohammed Seif, LDN Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If people are going to keep bringing up our strikers for the fault of our midfield I'm bringing up the sale of Mata as the worst decision Jose has made this season.The sale of Mata cost us dearly. Not only with his vision & playmaking but his immaculate set piece delivery. Stats, NishC300 and Azpinator 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! dee25 1,044 Posted April 20, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 20, 2014 The bizarre part about that Mata situation was how some on here kept blaming him for our poor league form in the past two seasons much in the same way people are now blaming our strikers for losses against Sunderland, Villa, Crystal Palace etc. Such simplistic thinking, it's unreal. Mata scored 12 goals and 12 assists in an under-performing team, sad how people just dis-valued that. Spyker, Azpinator, Strike and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If people are going to keep bringing up our strikers for the fault of our midfield I'm bringing up the sale of Mata as the worst decision Jose has made this season.The sale of Mata cost us dearly. Not only with his vision & playmaking but his immaculate set piece delivery.Are our strikers good enough to win the league? Simple question because I'm fairly certain they aren't which is why they'll all probably leave in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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