Caeruleus 1,148 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Ballack's job on the filed wasn't apparent and appreciative, but when he left Chelsea we have seen how important he was. Season 2010-11 was trashy without trophies. Something was missing in our game 'kaz game was really chaotic. Missing thing was a German who was connecting the dots at the pitch more than we think. I think you can't compare Ballack and Essien, 'kaz Essien was real DMF as Makelele. Ballack was classic CMF. So question is Makelele or Essien (even though sometimes they played together), not Ballack or Essien. Ballack had more forwarding skills. I like Essien same as Ballack, that is the truth. But I think Ballack should be on this wallpaper, as he is. Essien can be bench member of Best XI. Barbara and CHOULO19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I think you can't compare Ballack and Essien, 'kaz Essien was real DMF as Makelele. Ballack was classic CMF.I don't think this is true at all, Essien had his best games for us when he wasn't playing as a DM but as a B2B CM, where I used to think he was the best CM in the world at the time. robdog, GeeMon and Blue Armour 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I thought this thread was about Jose, not anymore? Caeruleus, boshman and xPetrCechx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 We're talking about what they did under Mourinho so bringing up the 09-10 season is completely irrelevant. Also anyone who describes Essien as a DM is clearly uninformed. Obviously, he could play that role admirably as emphasized by his performance against Gerrard in the 08/09 CL QF's but he clearly did the most damage in a B2B role.Hazard is better than Cole simply because of his superior intelligence and his physical gifts. I think if we compare their ball skills there isn't that much of a difference between the two. Hazard is brilliant but Cole was destined for greatness as well before injuries completely derailed his career.Shameless plug in. (When I had loads of time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not sure how there's an argument about Eden Hazard being in the team, especially for Cole. I'd probably have Duff ahead of him to be honest but Hazard has already shown this season that he's one of the greatest talents we've ever had at this club. bababoom and Mufassir08 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not sure how there's an argument about Eden Hazard being in the team, especially for Cole. I'd probably have Duff ahead of him to be honest but Hazard has already shown this season that he's one of the greatest talents we've ever had at this club.Cole helped win 2 PL titles for us, I'm not saying Hazard isn't the better player but it's clearly a discussion for now. Cole had 2 great seasons for us and one outstanding one.Amazed at some of history revisionism going on in this thread. Ballack was apparently world class for us from the start, Essien was limited beyond a DM role and now Joe Cole isn't in Hazard's class.We definitely would have won the League in 06/07 if Cole didn't get injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 14, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted March 14, 2014 Cole helped win 2 PL titles for us, I'm not saying Hazard isn't the better player but it's clearly a discussion for now. Cole had 2 great seasons for us and one outstanding one.Amazed at some of history revisionism going on in this thread. Ballack was apparently world class for us from the start, Essien was limited beyond a DM role and now Joe Cole isn't in Hazard's class.We definitely would have won the League in 06/07 if Cole didn't get injured.Coles isn't in Hazard's class. He was a fine player for us, exceptional at times, but he was never in Hazard's class. Hazard is a very rare talent, at a level and with potential that I'm not sure we've had at this club for a long time. Stingray, Viper22, bababoom and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Hazard is better than Cole simply because of his superior intelligence and his physical gifts. I think if we compare their ball skills there isn't that much of a difference between the two. Exactly my point...Cole was very talented, but Hazard is an elite talent, and that's why he gets in the team over Cole for me.If Hazard had the chance to play with a prime Lampard, Drogba and Robben etc. he would've definitely done better than Cole simply because he is the better footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 We're talking about what they did under Mourinho so bringing up the 09-10 season is completely irrelevant. Also anyone who describes Essien as a DM is clearly uninformed. Obviously, he could play that role admirably as emphasized by his performance against Gerrard in the 08/09 CL QF's but he clearly did the most damage in a B2B role.Hazard is better than Cole simply because of his superior intelligence and his physical gifts. I think if we compare their ball skills there isn't that much of a difference between the two. Hazard is brilliant but Cole was destined for greatness as well before injuries completely derailed his career.Shameless plug in. (When I had loads of time) Is there anything that is not related to Jose, since he is Chelsea´s manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Pc link??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza 1,965 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Anyone know where I can watch the best of Jose again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I made this wallpaper in honor of Mourinho's best XI in period 2004-2014. If you agree with this team choice just like this post, but if not please expalin below.Ferreira over Iva at RB, but other than that I'd choose the exact same XI with an honorary mention for the Bison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Pc link???http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1gy8mo_mourinho-press-conference_sport Rmpr and Kezza 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chels 238 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I made this wallpaper in honor of Mourinho's best XI in period 2004-2014. If you agree with this team choice just like this post, but if not please expalin below.Very good,But in my opinion your missing Zola .He would get into a prem best 11.My bad should read properly lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyzz 711 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Anyone know where I can watch the best of Jose again?https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=626597214056713https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=626598190723282hope it works Barbara and Kezza 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Very good,But in my opinion your missing Zola .He would get into a prem best 11.Jose never coached Zola! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chels 238 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Jose never coached Zola! Lol new there would be 1.I did edit my mistake. (note to self read before jumping in)Ssshhh just keep it between me and you buddy, if Mr Ashburner finds out he will punish us both ! Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Essien over Ballack all day long Ballack was a lazy flop a mechanical player that cost us 3 years of team development. Kieran. and Rambo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Ballack's job on the filed wasn't apparent and appreciative, but when he left Chelsea we have seen how important he was. Season 2010-11 was trashy without trophies. Something was missing in our game 'kaz game was really chaotic. Missing thing was a German who was connecting the dots at the pitch more than we think. I think you can't compare Ballack and Essien, 'kaz Essien was real DMF as Makelele. Ballack was classic CMF. So question is Makelele or Essien (even though sometimes they played together), not Ballack or Essien. Ballack had more forwarding skills. I like Essien same as Ballack, that is the truth. But I think Ballack should be on this wallpaper, as he is. Essien can be bench member of Best XI.I don't think Ballack would have made any difference in 10-11 (it's also worth noting he was hardly pulling up trees when we were struggling under Scolari). Our issues that season ran so deep that not one player could have papered over the cracks, let alone solved them. We signed Mata that summer and while individually he was a breath off fresh air, our issues collectively were still there. Last season we were going back in the right direction but still weren't out off the woods and this season we have made great steps in recovery and hopefully we will never let the squad stagnate so bad again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 'Does anyone care? asks Chelsea's José Mourinho over kick-off scheduling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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