bushman 2,043 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 His wife :ph34r: but I am sure they should be done with that by now considering their age lolYes it is not possible in 3 months but there HAVE TO BE CHANGES SLOWLY, there are none at all, in fact he just said yesterday he might go back to his old ways if we don't improve, effectively ending the process he tried to start. Dude pressing does not = possession. We keep the ball better now for most of our games but we don't make it count and when the opposition do finally win the procession back, they manage to make it effective by scoring like we see against Stoke and Sunderland recently, games where we dominated for 2/3 of the game but end up losing.Perhaps, the kid above might oblige too ?As for Jose pressing game. What I have seen, the team plays in the middle of the pitch uselessly. No quick attack as Citeh for example. Possession does not win games, unless you get your ass up front & score. Mouri_Matic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Here´s the way the bushwhackers see it.If Jose slows down, halts Chelsea´s attack, pressing even further, it won´t sit well with Roman. Roman spent millions on Hazard, Mata, Oscar, Willian, Schurrle.. to play an offensive football. Jose with his 1 zip games can stick it up to his ass, I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 It's always the same two characters writing in this thread. You guys should not waste your time with them as it's clear that they are trolling around for fun. Namika, Barbara and The Mak 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 It's always the same two characters writing in this thread.You guys should not waste your time with them as it's clear that they are trolling around for fun.Hey nando, what´s shaking ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! hjperdeath 2,226 Posted December 19, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 19, 2013 Don't even bother reacting to this thread considering the two trolls and the admin's doing nothing so here's something different -Jose Mourinho has visited a sick boy who lives in London and one of his last wishes was to meet Jose. "I'm in very busy period now, but this child's wish is more important than money and titles, he will be our biggest motivation next week against Arsenal", he said..Don't know the source though.. Barbara, xPetrCechx, BleedsBlue and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Don't even bother reacting to this thread considering the two trolls and the admin's doing nothing so here's something different -Jose Mourinho has visited a sick boy who lives in London and one of his last wishes was to meet Jose. "I'm in very busy period now, but this child's wish is more important than money and titles, he will be our biggest motivation next week against Arsenal", he said..Don't know the source though..Thank you. It´s great to see you having a heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Don't even bother reacting to this thread considering the two trolls and the admin's doing nothing so here's something different -Jose Mourinho has visited a sick boy who lives in London and one of his last wishes was to meet Jose. "I'm in very busy period now, but this child's wish is more important than money and titles, he will be our biggest motivation next week against Arsenal", he said..Don't know the source though..Last wish to meet Jose? A true blue, through and through. Bless his little heart ZOS, kellzfresh, The_Flash and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Don't even bother reacting to this thread considering the two trolls and the admin's doing nothing so here's something different -Jose Mourinho has visited a sick boy who lives in London and one of his last wishes was to meet Jose. "I'm in very busy period now, but this child's wish is more important than money and titles, he will be our biggest motivation next week against Arsenal", he said..Don't know the source though..Classy move by Jose.The Mail are already saying we're signing the kid for £20 million in January. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,754 Posted December 19, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 19, 2013 Don't even bother reacting to this thread considering the two trolls What's worse is earlier in the year two threads were made back to back, one (i think it was from SEB or Peace) created giving us a insight into the way we set up under Rafa and what Jose will change (something along them lines), and it got about 5 responses, not long after some troll set up an account and made a thread "Mourinho will ruin Chelsea" then said about a few words and got SIX pages worth of responses Barbara, Blue Armour, The Mak and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,754 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Don't even bother reacting to this thread considering the two trolls and the admin's doing nothing so here's something different -Jose Mourinho has visited a sick boy who lives in London and one of his last wishes was to meet Jose. "I'm in very busy period now, but this child's wish is more important than money and titles, he will be our biggest motivation next week against Arsenal", he said..Don't know the source though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Special Juan 28,864 Posted December 19, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 19, 2013 Everyone has a heart and a soul, it's touching reading stuff like that it puts everything into perspective especially at the great time of year. Throughout the year we moan about work, people and life, we also forget others that are a lot less fortunate than us.Enjoy life, stay happy and don't let minor things drag you down in a world that is full of pure evil and nasty individuals. If you have have kids, enjoy them, they are you and you are to guide them. If you have just family then cherish them and embrace love and happiness from them.One life, live it with a smile giving love on the way. xPetrCechx, Tomo, Mceachran and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susu 41 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Certain rumors are coming out today.Hazard attitude to training. Apparently he is first off the training pitches & first to get away after lunch.Tension between Jose & Cole are reported. Although Cole started at Sunderland, he has fallen out of favor with Jose.As I said, Jose is a great coach, but a shitty character who is on power trip.Playing Azpi on the left & letting Cole to sit on the bench is not what is desired, I feel. Suddenly, stories about discordance are appearing. The team needs countenance & not arguments. I just hope, these stories are not true. and no Party for the boys http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2526394/Cole-attends-Arsenals-Christmas-bash-five-days-Chelsea-visit-Gunners.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 and no Party for the boys http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2526394/Cole-attends-Arsenals-Christmas-bash-five-days-Chelsea-visit-Gunners.htmlWell, when Ashley parties, he is everywhere. susu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Jose don't know how to play pressing football. While he is a master at defensive football, which is not necessary a bad thing but really not enough at a club like Chelsea. The only time his team play pressing football is when he had Ronaldo, Ozil and all those attacking players at Madrid, playing against crappy BBVA sides weekly. Or he only play attacking football against top teams when his team MUST SCORE like the 2nd leg of Semi final each year. Argue all you like but you know this is the truth, keeping the ball for the majority of the game DOES NOT EQUAL PRESSING JOSE. Maybe he believes those 2 things are the same which is why he believed our performance last night was 'amazing'.Master mind at pressing football atm? Ancelotti, Klopp, Guardiola, Wenger, Rodger, Pellegrini, Martino(well he got Barca but still) and it is not a coincidence that all of these sides are among top 10 goal scoring teams in Europe atm. See the amazing magic of pressing?Pressing requires the team to push up and squeeze the opposition. We don't do that. The worst thing about it is Jose demands the front players to run their ass off and when they're bypassed the opposition have acres of space because the defence is so deep. What's the point of demanding Mata runs around like a mad man if the defenders are so deep? Doesn't make any sense.Mourinho is only good at coaching counter-attacking football and park the bus tactics. The fact that he thinks we're playing good football now says it all really. The worst thing about his comments about becoming more defensive is that he speaks as if we've fully committed to playing an offensive game when he hasn't even coached it properly and has players incompatible with such a style like Ivanovic at RB for example. He had 3 months in the summer to assess the squad, and I'm sure he knew he was coming earlier this year so was watching and keeping tabs on the team and its needs.This guy is chatting so much crap after games it's unbelievable. I actually burst out laughing when he said we played great on Tuesday. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Pressing requires the team to push up and squeeze the opposition. We don't do that. The worst thing about it is Jose demands the front players to run their ass off and when they're bypassed the opposition have acres of space because the defence is so deep. What's the point of demanding Mata runs around like a mad man if the defenders are so deep? Doesn't make any sense.Mourinho is only good at coaching counter-attacking football and park the bus tactics. The fact that he thinks we're playing good football now says it all really. The worst thing about his comments about becoming more defensive is that he speaks as if we've fully committed to playing an offensive game when he hasn't even coached it properly and has players incompatible with such a style like Ivanovic at RB for example. He had 3 months in the summer to assess the squad and I'm sure he knew he was coming earlier this year so was watching and keeping tabs on the team and it's needs.This guy is chatting so much crap after games it's unbelievable. I actually burst out laughing when he said we played great on Tuesday.I agree for the most parts, but then again anything Mourinho-negative is considered trolling now Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I agree for the most parts, but then again anything Mourinho-negative is considered trolling now Fine by me. Mouri_Matic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! remains of the day 564 Posted December 19, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 19, 2013 Yeah, I’ve been kind of wimp when it comes to this topic, avoiding taking any real stance or being too critical of Mourinho even though there are certain issues I have with him, which to be honest I’ve had with him since his first stint here. Nonetheless I remain convinced that he’s the right only person who can manage this club for reasons I won’t go into now. I think my own concern (and maybe it isn’t really one that’s mourinho’s doing) is that last season it seemed to me that a new spine of this team was emerging - and when I say 'spine' I mean players who were consistently performing at a higher standard compared to the rest of the team & were gradually taking more responsibilities, taking more ownership and taking more of a leadership role in the team. I would say these players were Mata, Luiz, Ramires and (to a lesser extent) Hazard. These were our standout players last season and the first 3 have been key players for us in the past two seasons. Now this season, out of those players, one has been distinctly inconsistent bordering on average, the other two have been on the peripheral margins (due to lost of form or has resulted in them being out of form, depending on what side of the argument you sit on) and only one has been able to carry on last season's form into the current campaign. Now I'm not criticizing Jose for going in a different direction and for making his own changes to the team. What I am saying is that in any team sport, when you have a group of players who represent the core of the team, there's a danger in alienating them. We've seen this when clubs get promoted to a top tier league and the players who were key to getting them in that position suddenly become ‘not good enough’ or irrelevant and more expensive players are brought in. We also saw this when AVB came in and suddenly players like Drogba, Lampard, Cole etc – players who formed the very fabric of the club’s success for many years suddenly were marginalized and were deemed “too old” to play a key role. Last season, a new spine emerged and although the success was ‘minimal’ (by this club's standards) these players showed a lot of heart, showed a lot of quality and for stretches of time showed consistently that carried the team.I’m no expert but I often wonder if by now we would be seeing more progress in the right direction if Jose or the club had focused their summer transfer dealings on acquiring the right players who could have complemented & increased the productivity of this new spine of the team. If we had focused on signing a proper right winger who could create more space for Mata & Hazard to operate and also signed a top striker who could – I don’t know, finish the chances they create; if we had focused on securing a defender to partner with Luiz – one who had the right qualities to be able to mitigate his weakness and also one who could play a high line; if we had focused on signing a midfielder – one who would not only complement Ramires but who would also provide some stability when Luiz ventures forward – if we had done all of that, had been strategic and smart in acquiring the right pieces that would enable our standout players from last season (most of whom are entering their peak years) maybe just maybe we wouldn’t be seeing the disjointed mess of performances that has become too much a frequent occurrence.Some people greatly exaggerate Benitez’s accomplishments at this club last season, but at the end of last season what I saw was some kind of foundation that had been laid with a group of players who were very much becoming the core of the team. Jose only had to improve on that system instead he tore up the blueprint up and started from scratch. That's fine, but by doing so we’ve now had to take two-step backwards. It took Benitez right till the end of the season before we began to see some kind of direction and cohesion. Was there really any need to start over? Strike, dee25, Barbara and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Funny so many people hated Rafael he got terrible abuse every game but he carried on and did a good job in my opinion. Funny some who slagged him I've heard saying they wished he was still here :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Funny so many people hated Rafael he got terrible abuse every game but he carried on and did a good job in my opinion. Funny some who slagged him I've heard saying they wished he was still here :/Please tell me who. Who said they want Rafa now and not José? I would pay for you to give me one (credible) name of who said that. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Funny so many people hated Rafael he got terrible abuse every game but he carried on and did a good job in my opinion. Funny some who slagged him I've heard saying they wished he was still here :/Is this true? Lmao, some people have short memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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