Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Win at the Emirates and this place will be a whole lot different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted December 14, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 14, 2013 I don't buy this difficult transitional period Mourinho keeps trying to imply. IF anything we are only going through it because he insists in playing Lampard 3 times a week in a position he can't play in. Take him out of the equation, get somebody there - boom! - we're suddenly exponentially better.this is such a shitty comment of someone who rarely makes sense.Lamps didn't play one single minute today and I guess we were the worst we've been in the last four matches today.Next time bring a comment that at least makes sense. Fernando, daBlackMamba7, darrus and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 jose's team selection was poor, but the criticism he is getting here is OTT.are we not 2nd in the league, 2 points off the top only with the chance of being a point up and top of the table in 10 day's time.we topped the group in CL and have should get relatively easy teams to face, and are in the QFs of the COC. Tomo, daBlackMamba7, Barbara and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 this is such a shitty comment of someone who rarely makes sense.Lamps didn't play one single minute today and I guess we're the worse we've been in the last four matches today.Next time bring a comment that at least makes sense.Shitty how? I wasn't referring to today's match. I meant along the season. Lampard has no business playing in there, and even though we weren't great today we were much better without him.He's 36 and can't cover any ground, therefore he's not the answer and shouldn't be playing there. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't thinking straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD3D 1,038 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I don't buy this difficult transitional period Mourinho keeps trying to imply. IF anything we are only going through it because he insists in playing Lampard 3 times a week in a position he can't play in. Take him out of the equation, get somebody there - boom! - we're suddenly exponentially better.So let me get this straight:On one hand, we unanimously agree that Chelsea has zero quality strikers and a very poor defense. We also agree that most of our best players (such as Hazard) are extremely irregular.On the other hand, you want to crucify the manager even though he's been getting it done despite having all of these problems in his hands.Some of you people speak as if we have a squad like City and Bayern. Manchester United has problems similar to ours: old players, unbalanced and inconsistent squad, poor defense, no quality strikers (RVP injured), transitional period, etc. and look where they're at.That such disgrace isn't happening to us, I give credit to the manager. Barbara, daBlackMamba7 and darrus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 You know Rafa did a better job trying to promote the youngsters at the club (and he was a short term manager) than Mourinho has so far. Rafa gave Ake and Piazon chances. Jose has ditched Ake.People here are acting as though it is 'Mourinho masterclass' that we are two points of the table. Well with the amount of money we've spent, don't you think that this team sort of HAS to be challenging for the title? We look disgusting going forward and one more point:"Mourinho teams are great in defence. Rock solid."Really? Just look at us messing up basic crosses.He brought Piazon on once when we were 6-0 up Regarding the highlighting bit, if it was so easy then why didn't AVB or Robbie crack it?Bought more players since then haven't we? Since AVB came we have bought (if I had to name some of the players who have played since then):Cahill (came in January during AVB reign), KDB (didn't play during AVB reign -was in Genk), Marin, Hazard, Oscar, Azpilicueta, Moses, Ba, Schurrle, Van Ginkel, Schwarzer, Willian, Eto'oSo you mean to say that AVB had the same team as Mourinho has? On top of that some of these players have a season's worth of experience in PL as well now. Moreover, Mourinho has almost 10 years exp in this level and ofc as u say, is God surely such a Godly character is not worth being compared with mere mortals......What about that Mourinho teams defend well thing? Where's all of that been? The start of this Mourinho reign has been quite disappointing and what's more humiliating is that Arsenal/Liverpool who spend nowhere close to the amount of money we do, are above us(in Liv's case were above us)!We're relying on solo goals, defensive errors and counter attacks to score. We almost CANNOT score when we are in possession of the ball.all that intricate football is GONE, all those fancy 1-2s are GONE, all the neat attractive to the eye football is GONEremember the days we used to do this? Remember the games vs Man United, Tottenham, Arsenal, Norwich last season? All that amazing football that was so pleasing to the eye. It seems like 10 years ago now.......and here's a reminder of all those beautiful goalshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-qjv92bV44(watch on youtube to see part 2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Win at the Emirates and this place will be a whole lot different.And it should be. There are many doubters now, how can Jose silence them? BY WINNING AND WINNING WELL. Thai is obvious in life isn't it? You do well you get praise, you do badly you get criticized. The football and defending we been playing for the last month and a half have been terrible and he RIGHTLY DESERVE TO BE CRITICIZED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted December 14, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 14, 2013 Mourinho: "We all know this is a transitional period. I believe that in another club, everybody would say 'OK, let's work and wait calmly'."Nailed it. Everywhere but here.Transition to what though? I don't see a style of play developing, improvement in quality of level/combinations etc. Transition? How. We're just stuck in the never ending limbo of rubbish football. ChelseasMessiah, xPetrCechx, Mouri_Matic and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 So let me get this straight:On one hand, we unanimously agree that Chelsea has zero quality strikers and a very poor defense. We also agree that most of our best players (such as Hazard) are extremely irregular.On the other hand, you want to crucify the manager even though he's been getting it done despite having all of these problems in his hands.Some of you people speak as if we have a squad like City and Bayern. Manchester United has problems similar to ours: old players, unbalanced and inconsistent squad, poor defense, no quality strikers (RVP injured), transitional period, etc. and look where they're at.That such disgrace isn't happening to us, I give credit to the manager.No, my gripe with Mourinho is that he had the money, targets and backing of the board all at his disposal to bring in a much needed top class CM/DM before the start of the season but he refused because he had already promised Lampard a starting berth week in week out regardless of his performances, and now he's complaining he hasn't quite got what it takes, in terms of playing personnel, to really compete for things.It's as simple as that. We had 50 million to spend on Willian and Andre but not enough dough to buy a world class midfielder? Did we sign a 20 year old lad to play or was it because of Jose's whim and determination to keep Lampard happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Mourinho: "We all know this is a transitional period. I believe that in another club, everybody would say 'OK, let's work and wait calmly'."Nailed it. Everywhere but here.So the game plan Mourinho is trying to develop is:"Kill off our opponents by boring the pants out of them!"Is that it? Mouri_Matic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 So let me get this straight:On one hand, we unanimously agree that Chelsea has zero quality strikers and a very poor defense. We also agree that most of our best players (such as Hazard) are extremely irregular.On the other hand, you want to crucify the manager even though he's been getting it done despite having all of these problems in his hands.Some of you people speak as if we have a squad like City and Bayern. Manchester United has problems similar to ours: old players, unbalanced and inconsistent squad, poor defense, no quality strikers (RVP injured), transitional period, etc. and look where they're at.That such disgrace isn't happening to us, I give credit to the manager.If Sir Alex was still at MU now do you think they would have been 9th? NO NOT A CHANCE. So it is Moyes's fault.Transition to what though? I don't see a style of play developing, improvement in quality of level/combinations etc. Transition? How. We're just stuck in the never ending limbo of rubbish football.Agreed, transition is when YOU MAKE A IMPROVEMENT, not doing worse every week. Transition should be like Spurs and Liverpool last season, started terribly but eventually playing amazing good football. The bad thing now is last time bad football we still won, this time bad football=winning f all as well to make it even worse. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 If Sir Alex was still at MU now do you think they would have been 9th? NO NOT A CHANCE. So it is Moyes's fault.Agreed, transition is when YOU MAKE A IMPROVEMENT, not doing worse every week. Transition should be like Spurs and Liverpool last season, started terribly but eventually playing amazing good football. The bad thing now is last time bad football we still won, this time bad football=winning f all as well to make it even worse.Some people speak as if transition simply means being bad. No, transition would indicate there are signs of development, new ideas, tactics/problems in the squad being adressed etc. Just being rubbish doesn't mean you're in transition. Mouri_Matic and Rmpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 all that intricate football is GONE, all those fancy 1-2s are GONE, all the neat attractive to the eye football is GONEWas that before, during or after we lost at home to QPR? Remember the games vs Man United, Tottenham, Arsenal, Norwich last season? All that amazing football that was so pleasing to the eye. It seems like 10 years ago now.......You on about the Arsenal game that was won through 2 set pieces? or the Arsenal game that was won through a debatable penalty after we got thrashed over for almost the whole of the second half? or the United game were we didn't wake up until we were 2-0 down after 20 minutes?When Rafa was here the performances got constantly criticized ,now he's gone all off a sudden we were playing like Brazil in the 70's under him, i don't get it?remember the days we used to do this? I do, i also remember we got outplayed in that game and got very lucky while a few weeks later we lost to Juventus in one of the most one sided games i have ever seen which as good as dumped us on ITV4, but oh well atleast we were playing a few triangles, thankgod for that hey. daBlackMamba7, Barbara, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This time last year we were about 13 points off the top Oh, and in the Europa League daBlackMamba7, Barbara and Namika 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD3D 1,038 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 No, my gripe with Mourinho is that he had the money, targets and backing of the board all at his disposal to bring in a much needed top class CM/DM before the start of the season but he refused because he had already promised Lampard a starting berth week in week out regardless of his performances, and now he's complaining he hasn't quite got what it takes, in terms of playing personnel, to really compete for things.It's as simple as that. We had 50 million to spend on Willian and Andre but not enough dough to buy a world class midfielder? Did we sign a 20 year old lad to play or was it because of Jose's whim and determination to keep Lampard happy?And if Mourinho had spend 100 million in the summer, you would be whining that it's a shame we have to buy our way up. Go home troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It's not him missing easy chances out thereI am mostly talking about our shitty defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 this is such a shitty comment of someone who rarely makes sense.Lamps didn't play one single minute today and I guess we're the worse we've been in the last four matches today.Next time bring a comment that at least makes sense.Yes. Lamps would've done a better job than Essien today. Not sure if we were weak attack-wise or defense-wise, but one thing's for certain--- We certainly bow down to our opponents level, be it Bayern or Crystal Palace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 In England? Wenger more than 10 years without winning, Mancini 3 years with the best team in the country, Moyes will be at Manchester next year.Mourinho in the first time he was here lost a League after being the best manager in the histopry of the club, and some months later was out. Since then in League Chelsea won 1 league title and didn't fight for any other Premiere League title.What a bunch of rubbish! When did anyone even talked about Mourinho being fired?Wenger is there for 10 years without winning and every single one of them there was heavy criticism towards his philosophy. Moyes is in his first year with United and look how much pressure he is on already. The same applies to other big clubs like Milan, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, etc.Jose is trying to play the victim here. I havent seen him taking much blame for what is currently happening with the team and I am not likeing it. It is the 3rd year fans are hearing the 'this is a transition period' excuse. Sorry, it aint cutting no more!Everyone knew we needed a striker, everyone knew we needed a good duo for the pivot, everyone knew we needed better defenders, etc. However, what have we done to fix it? Oh yeah, we bought Willian and Schurrle and loaned out Lukaku!!!I dont expect Jose to make us unbeatable or anything, but I do expect him to at least make us able to keep a clean sheet and perform well against pub teams. Right now, he is basically not doing anything. His work hasnt been very good so far... EBH and Styles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This time last year we were about 13 points off the top Oh, and in the Europa LeagueBut, but, but, we were playing more short passes, triangles and party tricks daBlackMamba7, Barbara and Sidzeret 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 What a bunch if rubbish! When did anyone even talked about Mourinho being fired?Wenger is there for 10 years without winning and every single one of them there was heavy criticism towards his philosophy. Moyes is in his first year with United and look how much pressure he is on. The same with other big clubs like Milan, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, etc.Jose is trying to play the victim here. I havent seen him taking much blame for what is currently happening with the team and I am not likeing it. It is the 3rd year fans are hearing the 'this is a transition period' excuse. Sorry, it aint cutting no more!Everyone knew we needed a striker, everyone knew we needed a good duo for the pivot, everyone knew we needed better defenders, etc. However, what have we done to fix it? Oh yeah, we bought Willian and Schurrle!!!Hey but we're in transition which means we don't have to address anything or try to improve!!!! Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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