The Mourinho Thread

[Weckerz 3,781]

When do you think CHelsea will win a big title again?

Could be a while. The best manager in the world got us 15 points in 16 games. Takes it's toll

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Yes, Mourinho spent 4 times less money than Manchester City and Manchester United in the last 3 years. Now Mourinho will have money to spend, will coach the second or third richest club in the world, will have a decent stadium...

When do you think CHelsea will win a big title again?

Net spending doesn't tell the whole story though.

Pedro 27 million

Rahman 20 million

Begovic 11 million

Costa 38 million

Fabregas 33 million

Cuadrado 31 million

Luis 20 million

Remy 13,2 million

Willian 35.5 million

Matic 25 million

Schurrle 22 million

Salah 16.5 million

Zouma 14.6 million

That's 13 players and a combined investment of 306.8 million euros over 5 transferwindows.

Our net spend is so low because we had a number of talented, high value players at the club that didn't fit Mourinho's system.(Mata, De Bruyne, Luiz, Lukaku)

So we sold them to buy players that did fit his system.

[Ossie the King 634]

Could be a while. The best manager in the world got us 15 points in 16 games. Takes it's toll

To be fair he won us the title last year. Give the guy some respect perhaps?

[Fernando 6,585]

Net spending doesn't tell the whole story though.

Pedro 27 million

Rahman 20 million

Begovic 11 million

Costa 38 million

Fabregas 33 million

Cuadrado 31 million

Luis 20 million

Remy 13,2 million

Willian 35.5 million

Matic 25 million

Schurrle 22 million

Salah 16.5 million

Zouma 14.6 million

That's 13 players and a combined investment of 306.8 million euros over 5 transferwindows.

Our net spend is so low because we had a number of talented, high value players at the club that didn't fit Mourinho's system.(Mata, De Bruyne, Luiz, Lukaku)

So we sold them to buy players that did fit his system.

Another good point that people fail to realize.

I mean if it was that easy why he didn't do it this summer?

Because there was no more assets to sell!

[Ossie the King 634]

Net spending doesn't tell the whole story though.

Pedro 27 million

Rahman 20 million

Begovic 11 million

Costa 38 million

Fabregas 33 million

Cuadrado 31 million

Luis 20 million

Remy 13,2 million

Willian 35.5 million

Matic 25 million

Schurrle 22 million

Salah 16.5 million

Zouma 14.6 million

That's 13 players and a combined investment of 306.8 million euros over 5 transferwindows.

Our net spend is so low because we had a number of talented, high value players at the club that didn't fit Mourinho's system.(Mata, De Bruyne, Luiz, Lukaku)

So we sold them to buy players that did fit his system.

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It tells the story of how much money the club spent, net.

This past summer, city spent three times as much as us net and that is including the sale of Cech to a direct rival against the wishes of the manager.

The board both undermined and failed in their duties to acquire the targets wanted by the boss. They didn't set out to sabotage him but their ineptitude had the same outcome as if they had.

Just imagine if the board had the ambition of City's.

[Pizy 18,952]

Seems inevitable now. Going to be gutting seeing him introduced there and all the media slobbering him.

Going to be even more gutting seeing him actually sign every target he wanted here but couldn't get. It's 100% nailed on that John Stones will be a Man United player next summer. Wouldn't be surprised if they get Pogba back either. One of Bale or CR7 eventually as well.

What stings the most is him saying for years how much he loves Chelsea and is "one of us," yet he's going to go and manage another English club. Surely if that were true he wouldn't do so? I realize he's gotta be royally pissed about getting sacked again but it's like a dagger in the hearts of every Chelsea fan.

It's pretty disheartening, I have to be honest. Makes me kinda hate football right now. Our greatest ever manager and one of my favorite football people probably second only to Drogba and he's going to be managing Manchester fucking United. Makes me sick.

[Ossie the King 634]

Seems inevitable now. Going to be gutting seeing him introduced there and all the media slobbering him.

Going to be even more gutting seeing him actually sign every target he wanted here but couldn't get. It's 100% nailed on that John Stones will be a Man United player next summer. Wouldn't be surprised if they get Pogba back either. One of Bale or CR7 eventually as well.

What stings the most is him saying for years how much he loves Chelsea and is "one of us," yet he's going to go and manage another English club. Surely if that were true he wouldn't do so? I realize he's gotta be royally pissed about getting sacked again but it's like a dagger in the hearts of every Chelsea fan.

It's pretty disheartening, I have to be honest. Makes me kinda hate football right now. Our greatest ever manager and my favorite football person second only to Drogba and he's going to be managing Manchester fucking United. Makes me sick.

We sacked him though. Can't very well expect him to sign on or just slope off into retirement at such a young age. United will give him a chance to prove his doubters wrong and the thing is that the people who wanted him gone will probably be the first to moan.

Truth is they're probably bricking it because they know he'll make United stronger.

[Pizy 18,952]

We sacked him though. Can't very well expect him to sign on or just slope off into retirement at such a young age. United will give him a chance to prove his doubters wrong and the thing is that the people who wanted him gone will probably be the first to moan.

Truth is they're probably bricking it because they know he'll make United stronger.

I know, and that's why I can't hate him for taking the opportunity. Just hoped he'd maybe go back to Real Madrid.

Also kind of lends credence to the reports that he has always coveted that job. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was relieved a bit to get out of here. He seems desperate to go there.

[bellion 170]

Couldn't give a fig where Mourinho goes to after his dismissal.

For those still hankering for him, I suggest you should follow whichever new club he goes to be it Man Utd or some other club.

[nullabletype 987]

Your whole point builds on simply believing that the players played badly on purpose, though. For which, as it currently stands, nobody has proof. We're talking about human beings who have shown and proven their integrity to their job for years, some of which we have seen playing weekly.

And that's where some people see resemblances to a cult. If you think the players quit on Mourinho it's your choice. But that choice is an emotional one rather than a rational one based on facts and proof.

Believing? Eh, no...

The second half of last season we weren't playing "good" football. We mostly won by one goal margins and crawled over the finish line. None the less, this is when harmony reigned and, for all his supposed horrible tactics, José was in charge of a team who were winning consistently and winning happy.

This season starts and here comes Mourinho with his horrible tactics again except hold on, this time the tactics aren't just horrible, but the players look totally disinterested too -- wonder why? And that's where I think you get it completely wrong. The blame keeps coming back to the manager -- and a good proportion of it is probably well deserved. The finger is pointed at him because his tactics shackled our players' creative output. Simply, that doesn't hold up because the approach is the same as last season, the only difference now however is the "palpable discord". The shackles were well and truly on then as well. Still, it didn't matter because the quality and grit shown by this team is what got us over the line again and again.

Here in lies the point. Were the tactics stale? Possibly. Were the tactics too cautious? Probably. Regardless, this squad with the talent it houses should still have been able to meet a minimum standard which would easily see us in the top half of the table. No ifs or buts.

A blind man on a galloping horse could see when they have and haven't turned up this season. So by all means liken us to cultists, but it doesn't serve your argument.

Edit: just as a note, even JT has said the quality wasn't there and claimed that if it was feasible for the club to dump a heap of players, they probably would have. Tells you all you need to know really. Still, cult of Mourinho and all that.

[The Chels 2,502]

Seems inevitable now. Going to be gutting seeing him introduced there and all the media slobbering him.

Going to be even more gutting seeing him actually sign every target he wanted here but couldn't get. It's 100% nailed on that John Stones will be a Man United player next summer. Wouldn't be surprised if they get Pogba back either. One of Bale or CR7 eventually as well.

What stings the most is him saying for years how much he loves Chelsea and is "one of us," yet he's going to go and manage another English club. Surely if that were true he wouldn't do so? I realize he's gotta be royally pissed about getting sacked again but it's like a dagger in the hearts of every Chelsea fan.

It's pretty disheartening, I have to be honest. Makes me kinda hate football right now. Our greatest ever manager and one of my favorite football people probably second only to Drogba and he's going to be managing Manchester fucking United. Makes me sick.

Yep, it does seem increasingly inevitable. I understand that he'll want to please his (soon-to-be) new fanbase and that he may resent his treatment from some of the Chelsea players/board, but I do hope while he's there he shows some respect to the Chelsea fans (matchgoing ones, especially) who gave him an unprecedented amount of support. 'The biggest club in England', 'where I always wanted to be', 'the best stadium and atmosphere...' bla bla bla would be pretty insensitive albeit unsurprising.

[The Mak 4,459]

Could give a fuck if he went to United. He will do more damage than good in the end.

[Pizy 18,952]

Could give a fuck if he went to United. He will do more damage than good in the end.

See a lot of people saying this. Wishful thinking.

[Adnane 1,101]

I was one of his biggest defenders here.

But I took time to think about it in the last few days, and i think that loving him grew harder and harder by the day...

He, the players and the board let the fans down, he paid the price.

They might have performed less than they should have, I still don't believe a professionnal football player is ready to be relegated just because he doesn't get along with the manager anymore.

But could the players have been as down mentally as they were this season if the atmosphere wasn't as toxic ? I don't think so..

I'm really in a terrible place now between loving the guy I defended for years and admitting the truth, which i am, gradually.

So I hope he goes to United and makes it easier for all of us, bring it on.

[Chelsea? 892]

He played a football they didn't want but they stuck with him - for how long? 2 months? thanks. If you don't want pragmatic football, then don't hire Jose but if you've hired him then back him.

Falcao, Pedro, Stones? No he wanted a midfielder and a defender, the reported names were Marquinhos/Stones and Pogba, Pat Nevin said 6 players so probably there are also names that were under the radar.

they stuck with him for 2.5 years. Every manager has a plan to buy 100 players yearly, it's the board's decision if they can do it or not. But he certainly should've done better than he did. Jose fanboys, similar to Torres fanboys will always blame everyone else. But you have to realize the board pretty much scrapped our initial plan of going young (Mata, Eden, KDB, Lukaku, and the academy) and just complied with Jose's way for 3 years.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I was one of his biggest defenders here.

But I took time to think about it in the last few days, and i think that loving him grew harder and harder by the day...

He, the players and the board let the fans down, he paid the price.

They might have performed less than they should have, I still don't believe a professionnal football player is ready to be relegated just because he doesn't get along with the manager anymore.

But could the players have been as down mentally as they were this season if the atmosphere wasn't as toxic ? I don't think so..

I'm really in a terrible place now between loving the guy I defended for years and admitting the truth, which i am, gradually.

So I hope he goes to United and makes it easier for all of us, bring it on.

I'm a firm believer that Jose was let go not because of results but more so because he's fallen out with Chelsea's brightest star, Eden Hazard. Long gone are the days where a manager can walk into any dressing room and be the big personality that who everyone panders to and tries to please. Right now its all about image/naming rights and who can make viewers watch us play.

Jose fell out with players before and the club backed him, as soon as it was Hazard who was unsettled they had no choice than to fire the coach. I really hope for his sake Hazard has a cracking second half of the season because if he continues on his current form he will receive the full brunt of Jose 'wrongful' dismissal.

[Gappy 130]

After this season pass, I'm so sure that this season will be a very good case to everyone in the football business and also every football fans, Both in good and bad ways.

" You hear only what you want to hear " someone in this thread was post this speech and still my all time favorite one.

Now in this mess I just hope

- Players prove them self that they are worth to wear blue shirt.

- Board learn from every detail of their action and start to build more royalty staffs and squads

[LDN Blue 7,903]

So I hope he goes to United and makes it easier for all of us, bring it on.

I disagree about the effect he'll have at United, but I guess I can only say I hope you're right. The quality of Mourinho, to me, is undisputed. If he's allowed control at United, he'll take them far, imo.

Again, hope I'm wrong.

[Tomo 21,751]

Apparently Mourinho and Hiddink had breakfast together on Sunday morning.

I would have loved to have been a fly on the table while that was happening

[ZOS 580]

Do you guys think he will be treated differently by the media if he takes the utd job?