The Mourinho Thread

[Rhino's Skin 972]

And I'm sure he'll be gone next season to warmer climes. Good for him and his career. He deserves better than what he's gotten from some "fans".

Whats he actually got from fans?

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Your right about the word, I'm sorry my friend.

But other then that I still think that everything the fans do are totally in their accord except this.

We can't have someone second guessing our owner as one of us. You can see he was at pains about the whole situation.

He really waited till as long as possible to make this decision. Gave him plenty of time to make it work, but he could no longer turn it around.

Yeah I understand why he sacked him. I just don't agree with the circumstances; for me the players should be held accountable and it really winds me up that a fan favourite has to be sacked to appease mercenary players. Anyway, let's not go down that road again.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I really have no memory of that happening. In the season 2002-3 Ranieri only bought two players because we were in such financial turmoil De Lucas on a free and Oliveria for £500,000 yet he managed to get us into fourth. No mean achievement and should not be forgotten. To have your hands tied financially and yet manage to get us Champions League football and was the catalyst for Roman's arrival.

Ranieri's very first season I believe. I could of course be completely wrong but that's my memory for you!

[Essien19 1,415]

Whats he actually got from fans?

Keyboard-warriors, look at his social media sides, mate.

But otherwise you're right, Ronaldo got some harsh treatments from madridistas, but Hazard has been treated well in public, imo.

[iseah100 5,612]

I can only hope that Mourinho ends up at Man Utd and he does exactly what he did here this season: lead them to one point above the relegation zone; embarrasses both himself and the club on a weekly basis; produces utterly joyless football and causes such a volatile environment that his players stop playing for him.

Ahh, I can only dream.

I hope you don't get on this forum anymore.

Ah, one can only hope.

[Essien19 1,415]

I hope you don't get on this forum anymore.

Ah, one can only hope.

He is just a wind up merchant, too much enjoing the whole situation and sadness.

Put him on your ignore list, someday he will get bored, at least one can hope.

[Rmpr 8,977]

the point that i want to prove is that the players actually and intentionally screwed the club because of their problems with jose.

it is not the point of players just "not playing well", its the point of players intentionally not pplaying well. and there is a massive difference in them.

i know jose is gone, and i would have been happier if it was sooner. now we have no chance of making top4, forget winning the league.

as for getting us the title last year, jose got us the title too. if he is fired, so should the players be. as for not getting players cos we have no buying power, well, i ll be happy with watching players who actually give a crap about the club, rather than players who clearly who give us to the dogs, if things did not go their way.

Dude, stop with the bs of "firing" some of the players. Do you even know how unintelligent that sounds?

[Fulham Broadway 17,320]

all valid points, all points they are certainly willing to throw out of the window if they can go back to winning ways. They need to start winning again and nothing better than a manager who is a winner and won't last too long anyway. When they regain their aura, they can look for someone like you described. I have no doubts he'll go to Manchester and if that's the case, they'll win again. I just preferred if he went to Madrid instead.

Pretty certain he'll go there. Combover Charlton has little influence at the Theatre of Shit any more, conversely the Greedy Glaziers would jump at the chance at some instant gratification, and could cope with 'the difficult second album' (Mourinhos chaotic third season), if it means silverware.

The other clue was in Mourinhos second paragraph today, when he said hes staying in the UK.

[Jase 43,479]

all valid points, all points they are certainly willing to throw out of the window if they can go back to winning ways. They need to start winning again and nothing better than a manager who is a winner and won't last too long anyway. When they regain their aura, they can look for someone like you described. I have no doubts he'll go to Manchester and if that's the case, they'll win again. I just preferred if he went to Madrid instead.

Maybe. United do want success but I'm not sure if they are THAT desperate till the point they will hire anyone who can bring them that. Managing a global brand/club like United is more than just winning trophies, it's also important to maintain a good image in the public. I'm sure they would ask among themselves whether Mourinho is really worth the trouble despite the guaranteed success. We all know his antics can grow extremely tiresome after some time and they would have noted how ridiculous things go with him this season alone.

[stroey 2,525]

Chelsea news: Jose Mourinho pleaded for Roman Abramovich's help

Jose Mourinho believed that a face-to-face pep talk from Roman Abramovich would help drag his Chelsea first team squad out of their slump in the weeks leading up to his dismissal, and requested that the Russian deliver one, The Telegraph can reveal.

But the club’s owner only did so after the sacking of Mourinho, addressing the players after training at Cobham on Friday when he told them that it was their responsibility to turn around the season, starting with Sunderland who they beat 3-1 at Stamford Bridge to climb to 15th place.

Sources close to Mourinho said that he has had no contact from those two or others, including director Marina Granovskaia, chairman Bruce Buck and club secretary David Barnard. In his programme notes for Saturday’s match, Buck paid tribute to Mourinho and said that Abramovich and the board had “anguished” over the decision to sack him. Chelsea confirmed that Guus Hiddink would take over the club until the end of the season.

The Sunday Telegraph has learnt that on Wednesday Mourinho attended a board meeting with Abramovich, Granovskaia and Tenenbaum all present. He was asked then what he would do in their position. Mourinho responded by saying that he would not presume to be able to run a football club from top to bottom but there were others at Chelsea who should also be asked questions of.

The following day he took training, ate Christmas lunch with his players, and returned to his office to find Tenenbaum waiting for him. The Chelsea director, and long-term aide to Abramovich, said that the board had decided to sack the manager. After leaving that afternoon, Mourinho spoke to his players by phone. When he returned at 10.30am the following day they were already training. He cleared his office of personal items and left all his initialled training kit in the corridor outside his door. He then shook the hand or hugged all members of staff at Cobham, some of whom were in tears, but left without seeing any of the club hierarchy. During that morning Abramovich did address the players. Mourinho will return to Portugal in the next few days to see his father Jose Mourinho Felix, who has been seriously ill.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/12060234/Chelsea-news-Jose-Mourinho-pleaded-for-Roman-Abramovichs-help.html

[Fulham Broadway 17,320]

Maybe. United do want success but I'm not sure if they are THAT desperate till the point they will hire anyone who can bring them that. Managing a global brand/club like United is more than just winning trophies, it's also important to maintain a good image in the public. I'm sure they would ask among themselves whether Mourinho is really worth the trouble despite the guaranteed success. We all know his antics can grow extremely tiresome after some time and they would have noted how ridiculous things go with him this season alone.

Why is managing a 'global brand like Man Utd' any different to managing a global brand like Chelsea ? Its all about the money, money, money, ..and in the case of NY floated, debt ridden Utd even more so.

The only question in all honesty is whether Mourinho would accept.

[Henrique 9,133]

I hope you don't get on this forum anymore.

Ah, one can only hope.

how can a nobody say this kind of thing about Styles, a legend? Put youself in your place, mate.

[iseah100 5,612]

how can a nobody say this kind of thing about Styles, a legend? Put youself in your place, mate.

Ouch. A nobody.

[Henrique 9,133]

United would be crazy if they get Mourinho. The man is not worth the trouble, and his best belongs to 5 or 6 years ago. If I was Mourinho I would leave Preamier League behind, specially if Guardiola is around next season, and perhaps Simeone. He will be fully exposed as a pretty outdated manager.

I really hope he gets the Red's job, that will be another reason to stay in front of them next season.

[Essien19 1,415]

Ouch. A nobody.

Don't let him get into your head, he is best mates with styles.

Put him on your ignore list too, not worth the trouble.

[iseah100 5,612]

Don't let him get into your head, he is best mates with styles.

Put him on your ignore list too, not worth the trouble.

At this rate half of tc is gonna be on my ignore list

[Henrique 9,133]

Don't let him get into your head, he is best mates with styles.

Put him on your ignore list too, not worth the trouble.

HAHAHAHAAHAH

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

United are now at a stage where they need to start winning things. They're basically at the same stage we were when Mourinho came back. They have young players mixed with some experience ones.

Mourinho will probably do well for them in the first and second year. Hell, he might even win the title. But what will also happen is that he will fail to promote youth, play attacking Football and the players will eventually turn against him.

United would sell their future if they are to sign him up, even if it is for a league title. At the end of the story it would be one step forward, two steps back for Man United.

[Amblève. 4,995]

It's as if some people here are suffering from some weird form of Stockholm syndrome. Being exposed to cruel and horrible football and yet believing in these mind-manipulating phrases, bonding with a person who has destroyed one's joy in football, and completely submitting to a us-against-them mentality while completely abandoning reason, speaking in clichés, and spitting proofless myths.

The king is dead, long live the king.

[nullabletype 987]

It's as if some people here are suffering from some weird form of Stockholm syndrome. Being exposed to cruel and horrible football and yet believing in these mind-manipulating phrases, bonding with a person who has destroyed one's joy in football, and completely submitting to a us-against-them mentality while completely abandoning reason, speaking in clichés, and spitting proofless myths.

The king is dead, long live the king.

It cuts both ways. Others are absolving our seemingly petulant millionaires for their utterly inept performances because they didn't like their boss. Boohoo, it's not one's right to have a boss you like and no one manager is going to please every player he works with.

Love him or loathe him, there should be a minimum level of commitment displayed by these highly valued professionals week in, week out. Even if every single player in this squad hated José's guts there was absolutely no excuse for a team with our talent to be in the position we are in. In Mourinho's final season at Madrid, the one everybody loves to point to as evidence of his "third season syndrome", he finished what, second?

Express your opinions on his tactics or whatever else, but if folks are honestly going to let our squad off the hook with the shit we've seen this season because of big bad José then I'm really lost for words.