The Mourinho Thread

[stroey 2,525]

If Chelsea find 'right replacement' Mourinho is gone

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03c9cnw

[oldportblue 547]

If Chelsea find 'right replacement' Mourinho is gone

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03c9cnw

horrible news if true... half the team need to be sacked instead

[Last Sicarius 610]

If Chelsea find 'right replacement' Mourinho is gone

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03c9cnw

Hope never die, bring Carlo back!

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Mourinho would get United a title in year two and then he'd create a toxic atmosphere for year 3. He lacks the ability to plan and build for the long term.

[Reddish-Blue 2,489]

If Chelsea find 'right replacement' Mourinho is gone

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03c9cnw

That's good news as I don't see any quality replacements who are unemployed

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Remember what I said earlier today that United fans don't want Mourinho?

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/poll-added-would-you-want-jose-mourinho-as-the-next-manchester-united-manager.412540/

Yeah they don't want him. As I said, he does the complete opposite of what United wants.

One of their members described Mourinho perfectly, imo.

"He is pretty much the perfect man to get the job done i.e: get you a medal. He is the equivalent of a hitman really. Logic suggests therefore that if you need a trophy in the here and now, he is your number 1 candidate above pretty much everyone else. He is more proven than Pep and makes Ancelotti look like a newbie in the art of winning trophies and one bad season is not going to change that. The catch though is you have to abandon any notion of a style with him and by style I don't mean entertaining or attacking football or whatever. I simply mean an idea, a foundation that can be called upon for long term success which is again a bit like a hitman, he would come in, do the job with whatever means necessary and get it done."

[Muzchap 8,966]

This post by a dude called Theonas (1St post, page 5) sums Mou up perfectly:

He is pretty much the perfect man to get the job done i.e: get you a medal. He is the equivalent of a hitman really. Logic suggests therefore that if you need a trophy in the here and now, he is your number 1 candidate above pretty much everyone else.

He is more proven than Pep and makes Ancelotti look like a newbie in the art of winning trophies and one bad season is not going to change that. The catch though is you have to abandon any notion of a style with him and by style I don't mean entertaining or attacking football or whatever. I simply mean an idea, a foundation that can be called upon for long term success which is again a bit like a hitman, he would come in, do the job with whatever means necessary and get it done.

The question is therefore is are we desperate like that for a trophy, For me, it is a definite no! 2 years (very likely 3) without a trophy is nothing in the big scheme of things. Barcelona went 5 trophyless years, Juventus were in the second division and we ourselves went 3 years without a league title under Fergie and all those sides came back from that. So I think we still can afford more time in the hope of building and working on more long term views. This obviously has a limit and if it continues like this, there will be a point when going further trophyless will in fact jeopardize our status and finances like what happened to Liverpool at a certain point and to a lesser degree Arsenal. If it gets to that, Mourinho is ahead of everyone to save us. If not, he really offers nothing else and therefore should be as far away from the list of candidates as possible.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

This post by a dude called Theonas (1St post, page 5) sums Mou up perfectly:

He is pretty much the perfect man to get the job done i.e: get you a medal. He is the equivalent of a hitman really. Logic suggests therefore that if you need a trophy in the here and now, he is your number 1 candidate above pretty much everyone else.

He is more proven than Pep and makes Ancelotti look like a newbie in the art of winning trophies and one bad season is not going to change that. The catch though is you have to abandon any notion of a style with him and by style I don't mean entertaining or attacking football or whatever. I simply mean an idea, a foundation that can be called upon for long term success which is again a bit like a hitman, he would come in, do the job with whatever means necessary and get it done.

The question is therefore is are we desperate like that for a trophy, For me, it is a definite no! 2 years (very likely 3) without a trophy is nothing in the big scheme of things. Barcelona went 5 trophyless years, Juventus were in the second division and we ourselves went 3 years without a league title under Fergie and all those sides came back from that. So I think we still can afford more time in the hope of building and working on more long term views. This obviously has a limit and if it continues like this, there will be a point when going further trophyless will in fact jeopardize our status and finances like what happened to Liverpool at a certain point and to a lesser degree Arsenal. If it gets to that, Mourinho is ahead of everyone to save us. If not, he really offers nothing else and therefore should be as far away from the list of candidates as possible.

Hey, hey get your own Man united fan quotes. I've got dibs on this one.

[Peace. 4,352]

Do some people realize how low and trivial the level of the debates is ? It is only about :

• 'Mourinho is 'chels' more than the players' ; 'the players betrayed him' ; 'they are not leaders' ; 'They are not at their best' ; 'they are underperforming' ; 'they should re-think the way they live' 'they are mercenaries and they do not care for the club' ; 'player power' ; and so on...

It could be summed-up like this :

• we are poor because players are poor ; players are poor because they are not good ; players are not good because they betray Mourinho ; they betray Mourinho because they do not care ; they do not care because they are not 'one of us' ; they are not 'one of us' because they are mercenaries.

That's it, the cipher is complete. But what about football ??? It is a romantic and sentimental way to see the situation, yet we are a football club not 'The Young and the Restless'. Our problem is foremost a problem of football, not of passion. I do not think that anyone on here believes that, for example, Manchester City players are firm fans of the club since childhood and that they only live by and for Manchester City. That's not true. They are a bunch of mercenaries, that is, professional footballers. They are better than us because on the one hand their players are better on the ball than us, and on the other hand, because their manager create tacticts to capitalize upon their better skill with the ball.

We are bad because of football problems. We cannot string two passes together to save our lives, we don't have offensive tactic ('pass the ball to Hazard and see what happens' is not a tactic) , we do not have pattern, we do not have any sharpness, we cannot control the midfield with 6 midfielders and our players are not Messis and create instants of magic. Eventually, we play a very bad football. I do think that a lot of our players are bad (I most likely rate our squad less than a lot of you), bad there are many teams out there that have worse players than us and yet they play a better football than us.

If we (especially the board and Mourinho) are unable to think the problem beyond the basic instinct of 'passion', then we are not out of it. If we do not start thinking with football facts and analysis, we will stay in this dire situation.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Hey, hey get your own Man united fan quotes. I've got dibs on this one.

Haha fucks sake - took ages to copy and paste on my phone - kept fucking up ?

Yea it's such a good quote it needs saying twice

Also at least I referenced the quote correctly :p

[zolayes 14,489]

they might be manure fans but their posts have logic .. I doubt if many clubs would want him now , Im sure no one would get him to build a Dynasty .

notice their current manager even gives young players a chance as Klopp is doing ..

[zolayes 14,489]

Haha fucks sake - took ages to copy and paste on my phone - kept fucking up

Yea it's such a good quote it needs saying twice

Also at least I referenced the quote correctly :P

I should think there are Manure fans c/p Peace's posts as evidence for not getting him

[Muzchap 8,966]

I should think there are Manure fans c/p Peace's posts as evidence for not getting him

Yeah loving @peace's work - good to see him more active

[Pizy 18,849]

Again, just hope he goes back to Real Madrid. Seeing him at another PL club would be terrible. Even if "it's only for a few seasons" that's a few seasons where we probably won't be winning anything.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

https://youtu.be/EgQld_0vyEU