OhForAGreavsie 6,128 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 you reckon Spurs will play a "2nd team" on Thursday or include players you mention?As I said, it could be interesting if a number were involvedI think they'll rotate in midweek. Doubtless some starters will appear but I'd expect quite a few to be excused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I think they'll rotate in midweek. Doubtless some starters will appear but I'd expect quite a few to be excused.lets hope Mourinho gets it right.....I think you are right about formation and players above.Wouldnt want to wish an injury or 2 on anyone...perhaps a bit of tiredness leading to a strain on Sunday early on though wouldnt go amiss....(clutching at straws) for us to gain an advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 More Here: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/20746-maccabi-tel-aviv-v-chelsea/page-4#entry1179722 Blue Armour, Jusek and stroey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,743 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Jose talking about RLC again, hopefully this means an appearance todayOne game before disappearing again. Nothing to get excited about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Urm...Mourinho said in public he and the medical staff had their meeting.Why should the details of that be public?Just to satisfy do gooders like le saux in his new role ?Remember he was also mouthing off about how the incident affected team form and the dressing room........yet again....how does he know?So whilst its alright for GLS to have a big dig at our club and manager, its not ok for Mourinho to have a little one (just a name drop) back?mourinho is the highest paid manager in the world. he is under the spotlight, and will be analysed by every angle. and when his behaviour is controversial, not everyone will be impressed. he dosen't need to rise to every criticism. just showing his paranoia and insecurity^ Not one, but two big digs.i read both of them, hardly massive digs at all. just concerned comments, that the squad does not respond to the negativity , and that jose handled the carneiro situation badly. neither of which is difficult to agree with.. Muzchap and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Its only over reactionarys like your goodself that make it an issue though.His comment ( name drop ) pales into the background when compared to Le Sauxs comments when he didnt know the ful facts.Expected better of a recent club ambassador who knew his ill advised comments would be plastered all over the media.Le Saux jumping on the bad nouthing of Mourinho and the club to self promote his new role....yup...stinks of it stroey and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Jose talking about RLC again, hopefully this means an appearance todayWhere's this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Where's this?http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/11/24/9790296/mourinho-tells-ruben-loftus-cheek-to-be-more-like-kurt-zouma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 no le saux dosen't know the "facts", which is why he used terms like "i think". "his behaviour may" "it feels like" are people not allowed an opinion?nowhere did he criticise jose's managerial quality, just his attitude, and the effect it has zolayes and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnane 1,101 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 ^ Not one, but two big digs.Such mislead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 no le saux dosen't know the "facts", which is why he used terms like "i think". "his behaviour may" "it feels like" are people not allowed an opinion?nowhere did he criticise jose's managerial quality, just his attitude, and the effect it hasWhy can't he say it face to face, why go to the media?I think he's out for blood and wanted it this way, can't stand those people.Yes, Mourinho shouldn't have mentioned Eva back in the day, but it was in the heat of the moment, the one from le saux was thought out. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Why can't he say it face to face, why go to the media?I think he's out for blood and wanted it this way, can't stand those people.Yes, Mourinho shouldn't have mentioned Eva back in the day, but it was in the heat of the moment, the one from le saux was thought out.heat of the moment from Jose ,, but too arrogant to apologise. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Why can't he say it face to face, why go to the media?I think he's out for blood and wanted it this way, can't stand those people.Yes, Mourinho shouldn't have mentioned Eva back in the day, but it was in the heat of the moment, the one from le saux was thought out.because mourinho dosen't have time to meet everyone with an opinion? do you see le saux knocking on joses door and saying "hi jose, just stopped to tell you face to face, that the siege mentality isn't working"i can't comprehend why he would be out for blood, the comments are not malicious in anyway, just concerned. the mourinho fans on here, act as if le saux said," jose is a terrible manager, he disgusts me"similarly ballack and all these other guys, could have supported mourinho face to face. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 heat of the moment from Jose ,, but too arrogant to apologise.Would have been better, if Jose publicly backed her afterwards. One can say that.Jose seems one of those guys, who only reacts to strength, not weakness.On the whole, neither of us don't know what really happened in the background.Eva's reaction(in her past, she posted very rarely on Facebook) weren't good either.She alone made the call to stop showing up for work, that wasn't necessary, she put her personal needs over the club ones,at the end of the day, she let the team down.Maybe the world has changed over the years, guys like Ferguson weren't nice either.I think a lot of people can't stand a proper hairdryer treatment anymore, Eva didn't get that, way more harmless.Sadly, it was enough.Now we have to get on with life and the club.Can't live forever in the past. GodZola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essien19 1,415 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 because mourinho dosen't have time to meet everyone with an opinion? do you see le saux knocking on joses door and saying "hi jose, just stopped to tell you face to face, that the siege mentality isn't working"i can't comprehend why he would be out for blood, the comments are not malicious in anyway, just concerned. the mourinho fans on here, act as if le saux said," jose is a terrible manager, he disgusts me"similarly ballack and all these other guys, could have supported mourinho face to face. Le Saux:"What concerns me most, given the work I'm doing for the FA, is the impact Mourinho's behaviour may have throughout the whole game."We're trying to deal with some very sensitive issues and to change the culture of the game."Some good people at the FA have taken a kicking after concluding there was insufficient evidence to charge Mourinho, whilst the whole furore may also deter women from becoming involved in football, as well as discouraging clubs from employing them."A lot of people are working very hard to get the game in a better place, but after the last few weeks it feels as if we've gone back 30 years.Mourinho could have reduced the fallout if he had just apologised. You can apologise for your behaviour without apologising for why you did it."I wonder if there'll ever be a time that Mourinho accepts his responsibility to the game."If you want the rewards for being successful in football, you have to accept responsibilities. To admit you've done wrong,I don't think Mourinho has ever done that."As someone who was privileged to play for Chelsea for 12 years, I'm saddened that it has come to this."If what started out as a straightforward employer-employee issue had been handled differently, these negative issues would not have arisen."The biggest disappointment for me is that Mourinho doesn't seem to have reflected on the damage he has done to his own image, the reputation of the club and, more important, the reputation of the entire game."There are some heavy statements in it; why the fuck did he play the gender card, when he isn't out for blood?Why have we still to differ between man and woman, 21th century, for god's sack.He questions Mourinho's ethics, morals, call it whatever you want.As if Mourinho doesn't take responsibility, sorry, but for me laughable.He should have written an email and and like adults, meeting face to face and sort their problems out.Coming from behind and stabbing with the knife isn't nice or suitable for highly decorated people.Take a look look at the timing, he publicly criticized one his colleagues during one of his worst moments in life and career(illness of his father) as if he wants to finish him off once and for all.I'm young and still gaining more and more experience, but for me the statement from le saux is reason for a warning letter.This behaviour is unacceptable, one can see his true intentions. stroey, GodZola and Barbara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted November 24, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 24, 2015 Le Saux is spot on. Muzchap, killer1257, didierforever and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 24, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted November 24, 2015 Whether or not what Le Saux said was right is irrelevant as is Jose's right to respond because Jose didn't reply to Le Saux's comments, he made a childish jibe at something completely irrelevant, completely ancient, completely pointless and even completely inaccurate as Le Saux was just one of 5 or 6 players who didn't travel back then.Quit clutching at straws. There can be no justification for what he said. Had he come out and responded to Le Saux's criticism then fair enough. But what he said was just childish and disrespectful. Amblève., zolayes, Hybrid Angel and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Le Saux:There are some heavy statements in it; why the fuck did he play the gender card, when he isn't out for blood?Why have we still to differ between man and woman, 21th century, for god's sack.He questions Mourinho's ethics, morals, call it whatever you want.As if Mourinho doesn't take responsibility, sorry, but for me laughable.He should have written an email and and like adults, meeting face to face and sort their problems out.Coming from behind and stabbing with the knife isn't nice or suitable for highly decorated people.Take a look look at the timing, he publicly criticized one his colleagues during one of his worst moments in life and career(illness of his father) as if he wants to finish him off once and for all.I'm young and still gaining more and more experience, but for me the statement from le saux is reason for a warning letter.This behaviour is unacceptable, one can see his true intentions.His father had surgery in April, and is on the road to recovery. I've no idea how that can be linked to anything.Le saux has something to say to the media , as did Jamie carragher. They aren't going to email jose, who said himself it is hard for him to learn from others.It's not their job to interact with jose in any way , it's their opinions , which they share , and perfectly valid opinions at that. Muzchap and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Tell you what, lets change the way we 'support' Chelsea. Lets not give any player or manager the benefit of the doubt even though we are not privy to all the facts. Infact, lets all start pretending we are red top journo's or talksport presenters looking for that sensational headline.Of course Mourinho gets it wrong ....but it doesnt mean he gets it wrong every time and most 'normal' fans of any club would support their player, manager etc first before all the facts are known and any criticism can be said or not say anything at all.There are a few on here who just use any snippet of information or indeed..misinformation to beat Mourinho with a stick to justify their OTT, reactionary led views.Mourinho ain't my favourite person either but I will always give him the benefit of the doubt until facts prove otherwise on certain issues whilst he is manager of this club and I am pretty sure that is the 'norm' for most supporters in general Barbara and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Tell you what, lets change the way we 'support' Chelsea. Lets not give any player or manager the benefit of the doubt even though we are not privy to all the facts. Infact, lets all start pretending we are red top journo's or talksport presenters looking for that sensational headline.Of course Mourinho gets it wrong ....but it doesnt mean he gets it wrong every time and most 'normal' fans of any club would support their player, manager etc first before all the facts are known and any criticism can be said or not say anything at all.There are a few on here who just use any snippet of information or indeed..misinformation to beat Mourinho with a stick to justify their OTT, reactionary led views.Mourinho ain't my favourite person either but I will always give him the benefit of the doubt until facts prove otherwise on certain issues whilst he is manager of this club and I am pretty sure that is the 'norm' for most supporters in generalDam you sarcasm! Else I agree with everything in this post lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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