The Mourinho Thread

[Henrique 9,133]

Terry is saying players are fighting for Jose. Thats speaks loud about what is happening in the club since 2013.

Jose, you never predicted in 2004 one day you would get bad results like that. Even a specialist in failure like Wenger never had such bad results. Your bad results started a long ago. 4-1 trashing to Borussia, 5-0 Barcelona demolishion and even the failure to score a goal in 180 minutes against a poor 5th placed Premier League side, named Liverpool, in 2005 UCL semi-final.

Pretty pathetic interview from both.

[Spike 12,049]

No reason to report when one of your mods liked the post.

What a stupid thing to say. Just because one person 'liked' it doesn't mean action won't be taken. In fact action was taken, I warned Melancius for it.

[Changingman_2000 876]

Friend of mine, Celtic fan (not that that matters),is heavily into twitter. It would seem that over the last hour or so, Costa is the one being fingered for the press leak.

[Henrique 9,133]

http://www.eurosport.com/football/champions-league/2015-2016/jose-mourinho-press-conference-what-he-said-what-he-meant_sto4976818/story.shtml

Did he actually say he has 3 years and 7 months to turn things around?

[Rhino's Skin 972]

well that was an entertaining presser.

But I know there is a few on here that dont take any notice of them.....so for those ones, just disregard any comments our club captain made

[Henrique 9,133]

Indeed he said.

http://www.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2015-2016/jose-mourinho-i-ve-got-three-years-seven-months-to-fix-the-problems-at-chelsea_sto4976763/story.shtml

Indeed he means 3 days and 7 hours.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

that said,

what level would that be? 2nd-tier? i'm sure 2nd-tier managers nowadays do learn from their pees. i'm sure the top tier ones do too.

https://twitter.com/ChelseaFC/status/661524290601410560

do they really learn from their urine sample?

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Friend of mine, Celtic fan (not that that matters),is heavily into twitter. It would seem that over the last hour or so, Costa is the one being fingered for the press leak.

first Hazard, then Fabregas...now Costa. Wonder who it will be by tomorrow?

[Henrique 9,133]

Keep dreaming mate.

Okay. Mourinho is keeping his job not matter the results. Ancelotti and AVB said the same weeks before getting the sack.

[Changingman_2000 876]

first Hazard, then Fabregas...now Costa. Wonder who it will be by tomorrow?

Oh I know. I don't use Twitter myself but, from what I've been told that is the name doing the rounds quite strongly.

[iseah100 5,612]

So. Much. Drama.

[Essien19 1,415]

OK, so you think there are improvements. Cool, we can opt to disagree and leave it at that. But for the sake of clarity, for I want to understand your POV, let's break things up a little finer here

1) Do you admit that Jose has erred (as has the board and the players)?

2) If so, what exactly did he do wrong in your view and what is he doing to amend it?

3) Don't you think it is an insult to Chelsea fan's intelligence blaming everything/anything but himself?

1)

Jose made some mistakes, the board too, and yes, some of the players are letting the club down.

In relation to the current situation it's difficult to step it up for the players, because a lot of the game takes place in the head.

2)

First things first, i think Loftus-Cheek could have been handed a lot more playing time during the pre-season.

Mourinho tested Moses, he played well, but apparently wasn't good enough.

Why didn't he do the same thing with Loftus-Cheek?

During these friendlies there are a lot of possibilities up for the taking.

Moreover, afterwards one can say, that most likely Moses would have made a bigger impact than Pedro.

With all due respect, that's difficult to predict, i must say to cut him some slack.

Most Chelsea fans already knew before the season started about the lack of quality in midfield.

If you don't trust Loftus-Cheek, it's okay, but then you have to bring another guy in, because Ramires and Mikel can't dictate the play.

Maybe therefore Mourinho spoke about the Eiffel-Tower, who know.

But you can't expect the board to spend around 100 Mio. on one player.

But did the board want to spend money for a midfielder at all?

Don't know....

Maybe there is a lack of communication between the board and Jose.

Why did they buy Baba, when Jose isn't fully convinced of him?

For Papy goes the same, he hoped for a big club and there is zero opportunity, clearly Mourinho doesn't rate him.

Difficult for a player to convince the coach to let him play, especially when he's not that good or better then the likes of Cahill.

Communication is key, Baba wasn't match fit, after Torres they should keep two eyes on that things.

Mourinho would have never sold Cech to Arsenal without getting a player in return,

there could have been a much better negotiation.

Sadly, one can state that Mourinho was wrong with Falcao.

Most of the time he is injured and when he is on the pitch, he isn't up for the job anymore.

But i would have made the same mistake, because as a third option to have he didn't seem too bad at that time.

So i can't throw the first stone.

Secondly, there exist problems with the style of play, as clear as crystal.

Chelsea can't protect a lead anymore.

This weakness runs through Mourinho's second spell.

Second leg against Atletico Madrid, we had everything, were one up, but couldn't hold it together.

Second leg against PSG, we didn't play beautifully, but we scored twice, we took the lead twice,

fucked it up in the end.

Against the likes of Man City and other opponents we had the same problems.

Furthermore way too often they put it behind because of a corner or free-kick.

When it's broken, it ain't easy to fix, but Barca had the same problems, but Enrique found a solution.

Mourinho couldn't and therefore we conceded goal after goal, horrible.

Additionally, when we attack, we aren't that dangerous anymore with those opportunities,

nowadays we prefer to spoil it most of the time. Depressing...

In the final third there aren't enough runs and passing opportunities. The ball goes from left to right and right to left.

That's clueless and often the opponent can use that to their strengths.

That's not completely the fault of Mourinho. because some of the guys have got really bad decision making,

even Hazard sometimes holds the ball way too long. Willian is a champion in that competition, it slows the play too much down.

A good pass is always faster than a run or dribbling, but no one has the ability for consistently doing that.

In my point of view, Fabregas is more of an "accuracy-player", during the good days, he plays a few, but too little.

He can't dominate a play, he can't organize and shift the game.

But i don't want to be too harsh on Fabregas, because the other guys are much worse.

It's slowly getting better, but the guys have to take more shots outside the box.

Yesterday Aston scored a goal because of a deflect, that has to happen more often when we play.

Coutinho did it against us, that's a dangerous weapon to have.

Maybe not taking shots outside the box is a thing of Barcelona, yes Messi does it,

but the likes of Iniesta and Xavi are rarely doing it either.

Mourinho knows Barcelona and their style of play very well, sometimes some of the combinations remind me of them.

In particular the first months of last season were a reminder of their style of play, yes, in an evolved way, but still,

the idea is clear to see.

You ask me whether i can see a light at the end of the dark tunnel?

Yes, because i think Mourinho is on the right path.

We have to stay put and stop conceding goals, we're able to put one behind, but clean sheets are the magic word.

Therefore we see Mikel more and more frequently in the line-up, that's a good thing, because we're in urgent need of more defensive stability. Zouma offers much better security in the defensive unit, therefore he gets the preference ahead of Baba.

The next step is to use a more direct player in the attacking unit, take a good look at Kenedy,

he offers much more than Hazard at the present time.

In general young guys are getting more and more chances, the time for the untouchables is nearly up.

So, i'm confident that Mourinho will get the nod for sorting this mess out.

3)

Jose already said it: "the fans aren't stupid."

We know that there are problems out there, some of them even an outsider could identify and maybe solve.

But not all of them, it's "a combination of factors", and that's the difficult task to accomplish.

What Jose says and actually means are two different shoes.

Furthermore i don't think he's shifting blame.

When did Mourinho expose his players to the press?

Some guys for example Hazard maybe need a bit of pressure, but when things get tough, he literally eats a bullet for them.

[Special Juan 28,871]

Wait until they pull Steve Hollands mask off his face when Scooby gets hold of him and it's Eva all along.

[Iggy Doonican 4,187]

Friend of mine, Celtic fan (not that that matters),is heavily into twitter. It would seem that over the last hour or so, Costa is the one being fingered for the press leak.

Finger and leak?. Not Costa I think it was a little Dutch boy.

[Changingman_2000 876]

1)

Jose made some mistakes, the board too, and yes, some of the players are letting the club down.

In relation to the current situation it's difficult to step it up for the players, because a lot of the game takes place in the head.

2)

First things first, i think Loftus-Cheek could have been handed a lot more playing time during the pre-season.

Mourinho tested Moses, he played well, but apparently wasn't good enough.

Why didn't he do the same thing with Loftus-Cheek?

During these friendlies there are a lot of possibilities up for the taking.

Moreover, afterwards one can say, that most likely Moses would have made a bigger impact than Pedro.

With all due respect, that's difficult to predict, i must say to cut him some slack.

Most Chelsea fans already knew before the season started about the lack of quality in midfield.

If you don't trust Loftus-Cheek, it's okay, but then you have to bring another guy in, because Ramires and Mikel can't dictate the play.

Maybe therefore Mourinho spoke about the Eiffel-Tower, who know.

But you can't expect the board to spend around 100 Mio. on one player.

But did the board want to spend money for a midfielder at all?

Don't know....

Maybe there is a lack of communication between the board and Jose.

Why did they buy Baba, when Jose isn't fully convinced of him?

For Papy goes the same, he hoped for a big club and there is zero opportunity, clearly Mourinho doesn't rate him.

Difficult for a player to convince the coach to let him play, especially when he's not that good or better then the likes of Cahill.

Communication is key, Baba wasn't match fit, after Torres they should keep two eyes on that things.

Mourinho would have never sold Cech to Arsenal without getting a player in return,

there could have been a much better negotiation.

Sadly, one can state that Mourinho was wrong with Falcao.

Most of the time he is injured and when he is on the pitch, he isn't up for the job anymore.

But i would have made the same mistake, because as a third option to have he didn't seem too bad at that time.

So i can't throw the first stone.

Secondly, there exist problems with the style of play, as clear as crystal.

Chelsea can't protect a lead anymore.

This weakness runs through Mourinho's second spell.

Second leg against Atletico Madrid, we had everything, were one up, but couldn't hold it together.

Second leg against PSG, we didn't play beautifully, but we scored twice, twice we took the lead, fucked it up at the end.

Against the likes of Man City and other opponents we had the same problems.

Furthermore way too often they put it behind because of a corner or free-kick.

When it's broken, it ain't easy to fix, but Barca had the same problems, but Enrique found a solution.

Mourinho couldn't and therefore we conceded goal after goal, horrible.

Additionally, when we attack, we aren't that dangerous anymore with those opportunities,

nowadays we prefer to spoil it most of the time. Depressing...

In the final third there aren't enough runs and passing opportunities. The ball goes from left to right and right to left.

That's clueless and often the opponent can use that to their strengths.

That's not completely the fault of Mourinho. because some of the guys have got really bad decision making,

even Hazard sometimes holds the ball way too long. Willian is a champion in that competition, it slows the play too much down.

A good pass is always faster than a run or dribbling, but no one has the ability for consistently doing that.

In my point of view, Fabregas is more of an "accuracy-player", during the good days, he plays a few, but too little.

He can't dominate a play, he can't organize and shift the game.

But i don't want to be too harsh on Fabregas, because the other guys are much worse.

It's slowly getting better, but the guys have to take more shots outside the box.

Yesterday West Brom scored a goal because of a deflect, that has to happen more often when we play.

Coutinho did it against us, that's a dangerous weapon to have.

Maybe not taking shots outside the box is a thing of Barcelona, yes Messi does it,

but the likes of Iniesta and Xavi are rarely doing it either.

Mourinho knows Barcelona and their style of play very well, sometimes some of the combinations remind me of them.

In particular the first months of last season were a reminder of their style of play, yes, in an evolved way, but still,

the idea is clear to see.

You ask me whether i can see a light at the end of the dark tunnel?

Yes, because i think Mourinho is on the right path.

We have to stay put and stop conceding goals, we're able to put one behind, but clean sheets are the magic word.

Therefore we see Mikel more and more frequently in the line-up, that's a good thing, because we're in urgent need of more defensive stability. Zouma offers much better security in the defensive unit, therefore he gets the preference ahead of Baba.

The next step is to use a more direct player in the attacking unit, take a good look at Kenedy,

he offers much more than Hazard at the present time.

In general young guys are getting more and more chances, the time for the untouchables is nearly up.

So, i'm confident that Mourinho will get the nod for sorting this mess out.

3)

Jose already said it: "the fans aren't stupid."

We know that there are problems out there, some of them even an outsider could identify and maybe solve.

But not all of them, it's "a combination of factors", and that's the difficult task to accomplish.

What Jose says and actually means are two different shoes.

Furthermore i don't think he's shifting blame.

When did Mourinho expose his players to the press?

Some guys for example Hazard maybe need a bit of pressure, but when things get tough, he literally eats a bullet for them.

Pretty much concur with all of that, brilliantly put.

[LeonDavis23 371]

anyone wanna post their odds on who the rat is?

[couris 232]

anyone wanna post their odds on who the rat is?

Jose Mourinho.

[manpe 10,861]

http://www.eurosport.com/football/champions-league/2015-2016/jose-mourinho-press-conference-what-he-said-what-he-meant_sto4976818/story.shtml

Did he actually say he has 3 years and 7 months to turn things around?

This "article" pretty much sums up the credibility of media outlets. They will write literally anything for people to see and misclick on their ads. Shocking journalism.

[bethos1 802]

This "article" pretty much sums up the credibility of media outlets. They will write literally anything for people to see and misclick on their ads. Shocking journalism.

Why do people even read that shit? If it doesn't come from the BBC it's usually bullshit.

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

Dave Kitson, the "mystery" , pretty poor footballer, should be sued.