nullabletype 987 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Jose won't be fired nor leave... It's the media getting pissed off because he walked out of the stadium and not to their interviews so they can ask him about the two goals we should have had or why he was sent to the directors box, and then he would answer and get a fine by the FA.So they need to make up crap to get their readers and to piss him and us off. Mourinho will turn us around he has no choice to change the team since Ivanovic is out (sadly not for much longer) so he can find the form and get us back on track. But it takes time the players who get £200,000+ a week aren't fully performing and as the players themselves say... it's their fault and not the manager.Come'on guys we are strong we're the blues and the champions, and they aren't!What were the two goals we should of had, Cesc and? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Im not pointing we should change the coach because it would destabilize our board once again, but take a look what change can a different coach bring. Borussia Monchengladbach lost first five games in BL, changed coach, won the next 5.I love Mou for all he has done to us, but sometimes I cant get pass the fact that he might be limiting our team potential with his defensive and old tactics. Sure sure the PL is different than other leagues, but take a look at Cuadrado, Salah, KDB, Mata etc who couldnt get game under Mou, but are shining elsewhere; KDB, Mata in the same league for a different club even.When Mou was speaking of long term plan, bringing youth, creating team for next 10 years, I have feeling he done quite opposite. Sure our team has age on their side, and many will only reach peak in couple years, but very possible, our best young players wont even be here when they reach peak, while older ones have already peaked or are in stage of rapid decline.Iva for example is the man for today. He has experience and old school play on his side, but he is already declining and will soon be out, our our defense will keep conceding. Mou only sees what is the best for team right now, but if he actualy thought of our future, he would put Azpi on right and bring top LB for left side and actualy play him. Or at least, that should be done this summer, but Mou keeps playing Iva. That is a big sign of lacking the vision right there.Whatever happens, Im behind whoever is at the club, be it Mou or someone else. But I hope we fix things before it gets even worse.Right now Blanc, Alegri, Mou are three coaches that have teams who can achieve alot alot more, but they are not capable of doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'm already having a boner at the thought of an interim manager till the end of the season and Pep Guardiola taking over in the summer. couris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelDance 552 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What were the two goals we should of had, Cesc and?Fabregas and Zouma's header, it was 1/5 of the ball outside if you pause the game but from first glance and from a line's man eye should have be counted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Fabregas and Zouma's header, it was 1/5 of the ball outside if you pause the game but from first glance and from a line's man eye should have be counted.Mate the league employs goal line technology, referees don't make the decision based on what they see. Muzchap and nullabletype 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito 459 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Fabregas and Zouma's header, it was 1/5 of the ball outside if you pause the game but from first glance and from a line's man eye should have be counted.So since the right call (no goal) was made, just because from first glance it looked like it was in, we should have scored? I don't get that. It didn't go in, so no, it should not be a goal. nullabletype 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted October 26, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 26, 2015 Pep would struggle in the Premier League especially with a team like Chelsea. Just look at his recored against the top 6 in the Bundesliga, it's awful. He would struggle against the increasing quality of the middle table teams here. Unless he has a world class squad his a no go. 11Drogba, Essien19, King11Didier and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapo Blues 21 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Pep would struggle in the Premier League especially with a team like Chelsea. Just look at his recored against the top 6 in the Bundesliga, it's awful. He would struggle against the increasing quality of the middle table teams here. Unless he has a world class squad his a no go.Agreed.So does Carlo. Sacked twice? no way jose, carlo said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Pep would struggle in the Premier League especially with a team like Chelsea. Just look at his recored against the top 6 in the Bundesliga, it's awful. He would struggle against the increasing quality of the middle table teams here. Unless he has a world class squad his a no go.Can you show me his record against the top six since he came to Bayern ? I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Can you show me his record against the top six since he came to Bayern ? I'm curious.Last season 3-3-4Season before 8-1-1So overall in two seasons 11-4-5 Heisenberg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Pep would struggle in the Premier League especially with a team like Chelsea. Just look at his recored against the top 6 in the Bundesliga, it's awful. He would struggle against the increasing quality of the middle table teams here. Unless he has a world class squad his a no go.i dont like pep one bit.but even if he is 1-Dimensional, with no adaptation, if he can at the least, give us some identity, make us score a goal on an actual attacking play rather than willian free kicks and set pieces, and if he can integrate the massive pool of talented youth that we have (RLC, musonda, solanke, baker, boga, baba, zouma, pasalic) or even a couple of them, then i will be happy. Reddish-Blue, zolayes, Despiadado.Maleante and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'm not buying into the Pep-hype. Okay, he has a great record. But I reckon I could have got an equally good record at the two best teams in the world with the players at his disposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 26, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'm not buying into the Pep-hype. Okay, he has a great record. But I reckon I could have got an equally good record at the two best teams in the world with the players at his disposal. Thats really not true...People look to Barcelona as if they were a great team when he first arrived. In 2008 Barcelona had won zero trophies in their past 2 seasons and they had just dusbanded that Ronaldinho team. So, not only he built the team from "scratch", but he also made them play possession football after a long time. Until this day you see a lot of his influence even 3 years after he has left. A bit like Jose here tbh, even after he left you could see his influence throghout the team...Now, with Bayern there is nothing to analyze. Any single manager in Bayern would still win the league at ease. But in his defence, when he accepted the job they hadnt won the treble yet, they were still that broken team that had lost to us on their own stadium. So its not like he chose them because they had won everything and his job would be easy! Fernando, The Skipper, Spike and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I'm not buying into the Pep-hype. Okay, he has a great record. But I reckon I could have got an equally good record on football manager with the players at his disposal. Fixed Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Mate the league employs goal line technology, referees don't make the decision based on what they see.ssshhhh...don't let hard facts spoil the illusion Clockwork and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Fixed Don't take the piss. My record on FM is a thousand times better than Pep's paltry trophy haul. didierforever and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DH1988 1,348 Posted October 26, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 26, 2015 All I've heard this morning on the radio is that he has tomorrow to save his job with Hiddink ready to take over until the end of the season, its absolutely ridiculous that we have not even HALF a season thats terrible yet we're ready to pull the trigger on £30million contract dismissal and getting rid of the manager we all wanted back for years and years.I don't agree with everything thats happened but yeah I can bang on about the transfers that were not done because thats the issues that a manager foresaw, same as we all said toward the end of last season "Wow we really need a world class CM" to say the least.It'll be a sad day when we're all back here posting for a new managers head, same old Chelsea with no stability - does Jose need to evolve as a manager? Sure. But we need to evolve as a club instead of the hiring/firing mentality we have.Who comes in? Hiddink? To the end of the season? His last 'good job' was Chelsea. Ancelotti? No thank you, we've been there with that eyebrow before. Bielsa? Seriously. someone suggested that and I can't remember who but my.. give me whatever your on. Pep at the end of the season? I think its safe to say that Munich didn't get as much as they hoped for with Pep, league titles in Germany when they consistently spend a good amount of money against the competition + buying their stand out players.Its a tough period that we'll be better off for if we see it through.I was slapped down for this transfer argument previously but seriously, we had our business done early with Fab/Costa, settled pre-season, complete reverse in the summer and we're suffering, why does everyone have such an issue with that? Would it be the worst thing in the world to make it to 4th, get the players he wants in the summer and then compete again next year? Fulham Broadway, Blue Armour, simon_me and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 All I've heard this morning on the radio is that he has tomorrow to save his job with Hiddink ready to take over until the end of the season, its absolutely ridiculous that we have not even HALF a season thats terrible yet we're ready to pull the trigger on £30million contract dismissal and getting rid of the manager we all wanted back for years and years.I don't agree with everything thats happened but yeah I can bang on about the transfers that were not done because thats the issues that a manager foresaw, same as we all said toward the end of last season "Wow we really need a world class CM" to say the least.It'll be a sad day when we're all back here posting for a new managers head, same old Chelsea with no stability - does Jose need to evolve as a manager? Sure. But we need to evolve as a club instead of the hiring/firing mentality we have.Who comes in? Hiddink? To the end of the season? His last 'good job' was Chelsea. Ancelotti? No thank you, we've been there with that eyebrow before. Bielsa? Seriously. someone suggested that and I can't remember who but my.. give me whatever your on. Pep at the end of the season? I think its safe to say that Munich didn't get as much as they hoped for with Pep, league titles in Germany when they consistently spend a good amount of money against the competition + buying their stand out players.Its a tough period that we'll be better off for if we see it through.I was slapped down for this transfer argument previously but seriously, we had our business done early with Fab/Costa, settled pre-season, complete reverse in the summer and we're suffering, why does everyone have such an issue with that? Would it be the worst thing in the world to make it to 4th, get the players he wants in the summer and then compete again next year?It's not about making 4th though. It's about 7 or 8 first team players not performing to their capabilities (only Azpi, Willian and Begovic are excused from criticism)I agree about the lack of transfers but Mourinho has enough quality at his disposal to be better than 15th in the EPL after 10 games.Even the commentators are questioning what has happened to the Chelsea of last season, they said after 10 games, only Sunderland and Villa have conceded more direct shots on goal this season (which is pretty concerning for a manager known for keeping clean sheets and keeping his defense tight). Will be interesting to see what happens after the Liverpool game. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 All I've heard this morning on the radio is that he has tomorrow to save his job with Hiddink ready to take over until the end of the season, its absolutely ridiculous that we have not even HALF a season thats terrible yet we're ready to pull the trigger on £30million contract dismissal and getting rid of the manager we all wanted back for years and years.I don't agree with everything thats happened but yeah I can bang on about the transfers that were not done because thats the issues that a manager foresaw, same as we all said toward the end of last season "Wow we really need a world class CM" to say the least.It'll be a sad day when we're all back here posting for a new managers head, same old Chelsea with no stability - does Jose need to evolve as a manager? Sure. But we need to evolve as a club instead of the hiring/firing mentality we have.Who comes in? Hiddink? To the end of the season? His last 'good job' was Chelsea. Ancelotti? No thank you, we've been there with that eyebrow before. Bielsa? Seriously. someone suggested that and I can't remember who but my.. give me whatever your on. Pep at the end of the season? I think its safe to say that Munich didn't get as much as they hoped for with Pep, league titles in Germany when they consistently spend a good amount of money against the competition + buying their stand out players.Its a tough period that we'll be better off for if we see it through.I was slapped down for this transfer argument previously but seriously, we had our business done early with Fab/Costa, settled pre-season, complete reverse in the summer and we're suffering, why does everyone have such an issue with that? Would it be the worst thing in the world to make it to 4th, get the players he wants in the summer and then compete again next year?After the Southampton game Jose said everybody needs to take responsibility and stick together in these trying times. Well, what is his responsibility? Does he admit any wrong doing on his part? Is he capable of change? why shouldn't he be sacked? ... I'm not convinced he should be fired, but I don't see why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 All I've heard this morning on the radio is that he has tomorrow to save his job with Hiddink ready to take over until the end of the season, its absolutely ridiculous that we have not even HALF a season thats terrible yet we're ready to pull the trigger on £30million contract dismissal and getting rid of the manager we all wanted back for years and years.I don't agree with everything thats happened but yeah I can bang on about the transfers that were not done because thats the issues that a manager foresaw, same as we all said toward the end of last season "Wow we really need a world class CM" to say the least.It'll be a sad day when we're all back here posting for a new managers head, same old Chelsea with no stability - does Jose need to evolve as a manager? Sure. But we need to evolve as a club instead of the hiring/firing mentality we have.Who comes in? Hiddink? To the end of the season? His last 'good job' was Chelsea. Ancelotti? No thank you, we've been there with that eyebrow before. Bielsa? Seriously. someone suggested that and I can't remember who but my.. give me whatever your on. Pep at the end of the season? I think its safe to say that Munich didn't get as much as they hoped for with Pep, league titles in Germany when they consistently spend a good amount of money against the competition + buying their stand out players.Its a tough period that we'll be better off for if we see it through.I was slapped down for this transfer argument previously but seriously, we had our business done early with Fab/Costa, settled pre-season, complete reverse in the summer and we're suffering, why does everyone have such an issue with that? Would it be the worst thing in the world to make it to 4th, get the players he wants in the summer and then compete again next year?So you genuinely think we're languishing at 15th place because of lack of good transfers? Is the lack of good transfers the main reason why we're 15th for you? MrExcalibur100, couris, Muzchap and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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