The Mourinho Thread

[DYC. 7,542]

If Mourinho was going to scapegoat Oscar at every opportunity I'm not sure why he wasn't sold to Juve for a pretty penny during the summer. At this rate he'll be sold next summer but for much, much less...all thanks to the man-mangement magic of José Mourinho.

Tbf, that piece is based on pure speculation. No quotes, not even a mention of 'sources at the club'. Juve were interested, that's undeniable, but we don't know whether they made a bid.

They're bargain hunters anyway. Doubt they could/would make a good offer.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Chelsea's poor defence has exposed Jose Mourinho's lack of attacking nous

So true. I just can't comprehend how you cannot train attacking patterns. When I see Pedro who has to beat his man, one or two, to make something happens something is very wrong. Because Pedro's dribbling is not great and he lives by movement that's why he is next to useless now.

And also lack of attacking full-backs just proves the point. Every decent club and country play with two recognized full-backs who bomb forward but some genius figured out that they're all wrong and plays with RB on the left and CB on the right. You just deprive yourself of two potential contributors in attack. I even saw that in Pedro when he was waiting for Ivanovic because he is used to Dani Alves making run. Then he doesn't see him and start dribbling and loses the ball.

Also this article suggests through "sources close to the club" that our tactic last season was indeed giving ball to Hazard and see what happens.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

People are still blaming the players. We're currently battling relegation not on the fringes of Top 4.

[Styles 9,790]

Chelsea's poor defence has exposed Jose Mourinho's lack of attacking nous

Yikes.

[quickpassnmove 924]

Chelsea's poor defence has exposed Jose Mourinho's lack of attacking nous

Jose Mourinho scapegoating Oscar, Loic Remy and John Terry sends shockwaves through Chelsea squad

dribbling down blind alleys, creating nothing from open play and interplay... also, too SLOW.

When these things go away, I will enjoy Chelsea's football. However, I've been waiting for years for this to go away and for Chelsea to consistently pass quickly and readily to teammates getting quickly into open space or beyond opposition defence. So many times, it's like a dream that Chelsea will never realize, so I just watch some other clubs play for that --ie. "real football."

flowing football won't be realized under Jose. the enjoyable Chelsea that I want to see needs a fresh manager and coaching staff. now, Chelsea can't even grind out wins in their typical boring fashion.

Time to dump the manager.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I dare say many TC members did see the risk in not strengthening during the summer and, I think, people here were saying Iva isn't good enough even before last season.

Exactly.

I seriously advocated for improvement on the current players we have, because last season we had hunger to win the league, we had drogba who motivated hazard and co saying it's been too long since we won a major trophy. But no one anticipated that so many of our players would individually be so poor this season. Look at how slow jt and Iva have become, look at Matic struggling to get successful tackles, look at fabregas mobility, look at hazard forgetting how to dribble, Oscar not fit, costa technically poor and all this happened at the same time.

We have practically turned to David Moyes Manchester United

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I just find it entirely pointless to sack Mourinho. For who? For someone who's likely to come in for anywhere between 6-18months, just to be shown the damn door again? I find it hilarious people talk about Ancelotti when he did the same thing here, won the double and sacked the season after. While Mourinho's got his own demons to battle this season in terms of his own tactics, this squad evidently needs another overhaul. I still believe in the guy lol, don't think there's anyone else better for us

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

dribbling down blind alleys, creating nothing from open play and interplay... also, too SLOW.

When these things go away, I will enjoy Chelsea's football. However, I've been waiting for years for this to go away and for Chelsea to consistently pass quickly and readily to teammates getting quickly into open space or beyond opposition defence. So many times, it's like a dream that Chelsea will never realize, so I just watch some other clubs play for that --ie. "real football."

flowing football won't be realized under Jose. the enjoyable Chelsea that I want to see needs a fresh manager and coaching staff. now, Chelsea can't even grind out wins in their typical boring fashion.

Time to dump the manager.

Very good article by Miguel Delaney. Finally, a sports journalist who is able to understand our biggest problem. Straight to the crux of the matter, cutting through the rest of the half-truths and faux diagnosis out there.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Bring in Pep Guardiola, the best manager in the world.If Roman wants José to go in furry then he needs to go for Pep, that will fix our season's problems.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Really loving that article by Miguel Delaney. It mirrors a lot of what some members have posted here before concerning Mourinho's technical and tactical competence.

[ulvhedin 526]

And also lack of attacking full-backs just proves the point. Every decent club and country play with two recognized full-backs who bomb forward but some genius figured out that they're all wrong and plays with RB on the left and CB on the right. You just deprive yourself of two potential contributors in attack. I even saw that in Pedro when he was waiting for Ivanovic because he is used to Dani Alves making run. Then he doesn't see him and start dribbling and loses the ball.

Belgium national team also has problem with attacking full-backs, and also is suffering badly when cant play counter attack. If not good counter they have to rely on Bruyne or Hazard moment of magic.

[blues.bridge 343]

Bring in Pep Guardiola, the best manager in the world.If Roman wants José to go in furry then he needs to go for Pep, that will fix our season's problems.

i don't want pep! there are at least two menager better or at least on par: klopp, schmidt, (other: tuchel, simoene, etc)

[Heisenberg 1,824]

i don't want pep! there are at least two menager better or at least on par: klopp, schmidt, (other: tuchel, simoene, etc)

Fair enough, its my personal choice, I admire Bayern's coach for his consistency, choices, personality ( way better tha mou's ) and football knowledge, plus he is a big name, what Chelsea needs.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

This is from Wikipedia on micro management any similarities with our manager are pure coincidence !!!!

Rather than giving general instructions on smaller tasks and then devoting time to supervising larger concerns, the micromanager monitors and assesses every step of a business process and avoids delegation of decisions.^[6] Micromanagers are usually irritated when a subordinate makes decisions without consulting them, even if the decisions are within the subordinate's level of authority.

Micromanagement also frequently involves requests for unnecessary and overly detailed reports ("reportomania"). A micromanager tends to require constant and detailed performance feedback and to focus excessively on procedural trivia (often in detail greater than they can actually process) rather than on overall performance, quality and results. This focus on "low-level" trivia often delays decisions, clouds overall goals and objectives, restricts the flow of information between employees, and guides the various aspects of a project in different and often opposed directions. Many micromanagers accept such inefficiencies as less important than their retention of control or of the appearance of control.

It is common for micromanagers, especially those who exhibit narcissistic tendencies and/or micromanage deliberately and for strategic reasons, to delegate work to subordinates and then micromanage those subordinates' performance, enabling the micromanagers in question to both take credit for positive results and shift the blame for negative results to their subordinates.^[7] These micromanagers thereby delegate accountability for failure but not the authority to take alternative actions that would have led to success or at least to the mitigation of that failure.

The most extreme cases of micromanagement constitute a management pathology closely related to, e.g., workplace bullying and narcissistic behavior. Micromanagement resembles addiction in that although most micromanagers are behaviorally dependent on control over others, both as a lifestyle and as a means of maintaining that lifestyle, many of them fail to recognize and acknowledge their dependence even when everyone around them observes it

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Some severe cases of micromanagement arise from other underlying mental-health conditions such as obsessive–compulsive personality disorder, although not all allegations of such conditions by subordinates and other "armchair psychologists" are accurate.

Although micromanagement is often easily recognized by employees, micromanagers rarely view themselves as such. In a form of denial similar to that found in addictive behavior, micromanagers will often rebut allegations of micromanagement by offering a competing characterization of their management style as, e.g., "structured", "organized", or "perfectionistic

[Clevemayer 764]

Fair enough, its my personal choice, I admire Bayern's coach for his consistency, choices, personality ( way better tha mou's ) and football knowledge, plus he is a big name, what Chelsea needs.

I think I must temporarily stop watching chels if this prick is on the sidelines... I would prefer klopp above all...

[blues.bridge 343]

Fair enough, its my personal choice, I admire Bayern's coach for his consistency, choices, personality ( way better tha mou's ) and football knowledge, plus he is a big name, what Chelsea n

all you said is right, but in my opinion pep isn't suitable for the our bench.

[Clevemayer 764]

I would bet MUFC and Arsenal Fans are having a good laugh when watching this chelsea forum at the moment...

[Heisenberg 1,824]

I think I must temporarily stop watching chels if this prick is on the sidelines... I would prefer klopp above all...

Telling me that Pep is a prick without telling why makes your comment useless.

all you said is right, but in my opinion pep isn't suitable for the our bench.

He can of course make an AVB-esque style of coaching, or simply get hammered by the Premier League's level, but again, hiring someone is always risky, atleast we know that he preach creative attacking football, and he is extremly talented for that, respectful of fellow managers & teams, would make us a more lovable team worldwide if he implements his style, and above all, ally titles with beatiful play.He also has a lot of experience and will only get better, for sure, but he is too intelligent to choose us over City, CIty is a dream job compared to Chelsea.

[Gappy 130]

I just find it entirely pointless to sack Mourinho. For who? For someone who's likely to come in for anywhere between 6-18months, just to be shown the damn door again? I find it hilarious people talk about Ancelotti when he did the same thing here, won the double and sacked the season after. While Mourinho's got his own demons to battle this season in terms of his own tactics, this squad evidently needs another overhaul. I still believe in the guy lol, don't think there's anyone else better for us

Agree, It's more like a joke that we want a long term manager

We can't even patient for the one who just give us a champion than half season

How can we patient enough to wait 1-2 seasons for a long term manager to establish his philosophy

All of our fan this day was expect only champion every season win every match and told that this is nows chelsea standard

Come on look at our squad depth compare too city or utd . Do we really outclass them that bad since our board fail in this summer market the gaps was really close between we and them and i can say that city squad was far better than us now , utd was invest very high amount their midfield was far better choice than us.

It's 40/40/20 fault Board/Jose/Players imo

And btw

Kloop take 2 full season before get the titles and that first 2 season he finish at sixth and fifth places

Do you really believe he'll give a chance to manage our team if he come and finish sixth at the first season? and then last season with that result is he still a long term manager?

7 years with 56.29% win ratio 2 titles 3 german community shield 1 domestic cup

Did he fit us that bad ?

Chelsea fans this era never ever need a " long term " manager

Jose philosophy just didn't entertain our fans anymore that's it, our fans need someone that provide us a titles,cups, glory with attacking football

Sound like Read madrid too me ....

For all the point is did we really patient enough and wanna risk 2-3 seasons for someone that they are " long term " manager?

I Don't believe Roman or our franchise can