LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Just because some people get away with murder doesn't make it any less of a serious crime/offense (and yes some people do indeed get away with murder in real life)Brownie points to the first smart ass that says "wow you are equating this to murder"True, I do get that. But I just think this has unnecessarily been blown up by everyone. I disagree with people who say Eva was at fault, she clearly wasn't, but I also disagree with the character assasination of both Eva and Jose. At the end of the day this shouldn't matter as much as it does, only Mourinho knows why he himself is unhappy at both Eva and the medical department in general. For all we know all will be forgotten if she's back on the bench after the City match. Tomo and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted August 12, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 12, 2015 What's wrong with acknowledging people that support and appreciate her work and professionalism since the manager doesn't?Spin it all you want, Jose is the culprit here launching a childish and unnecessary attack on someone for doing their job. Jose has no medical background, how would he no what hazard's condition was at the time.This leads to only two conclusions, It's either jose doesn't give a damn about Hazard's health and would rather him continue playing on with a "potential" injury or He believes hazard wasn't really hurt and just feigning an in jury. Either way, it reflects badly on Jose.Its passive aggressive when she only does that when Mourinho calls out the medical staff. Why wasn't she acknowledging them the past months she has been worshipped on there?He's only saying that to defend Mourinho, who as we know can do no wrong. Yes, it's Carniero's fault thanking fans for their support. LOLPeople have been worshipping her for MONTHS on that same page. Why is she talking now? She was being passive aggressive, and a boss in a regular organization would have sacked her for that.If she gave two shits about some bloke in India or Romania telling her how amazing she is she would have started communicating with them long before she came out with this in the news. Viper22, CeleryFC, Stingray and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 who cares, employ another one and move on. this is football not an episode of ER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted August 12, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 12, 2015 Two words: deflection policy.Everyone is slagging him off, rather than focusing on the fact that, on the pitch, we're lightyears behind where we were this time last season. José loves the attention, but he does it to stop the papers from focusing on what was a turgid performance against Swansea (even when we had 11 on the pitch).I don't quite know what you're alluding to with the second part of your post. It seems you are insinuating that A; Mourinho's team-talk demotivated the players, and B; that it is his fault that Courtois suffered from a brainfart, and by extension that it is José's fault that Thibaut got himself sent off. (a) Okay, first point Alex.. This is a common canard that is inapplicable in this situation. Are you trying to suggest that Jose losing his rag on the touchline was all part of a "deflection". Or that Dr.Carneiro's suspension (or expulsion) from the team bench, team hotels and practice sessions is one grand deflection? Of course not. Let's address the elephant in the room, guys. Mourinho has an almighty ego and self importance about him. He also has an uncontrollable rage. He could easily have diffused the situation, but chose to escalate it. That isn't a deflection. That's public scape-goating. And he's done it with Hazard before after we got crushed by Atletico Madrid in the semis. Remember? It was clear to me then that Mourinho will go great lengths to cover his own backside and that he has no respect for even the people that give him so much.(ii) No. I simply meant that whatever Mourinho told the team at half time was innefectual and actually resulted in making the team play worse. I also meant that anyone who has been paying close attention to Chelsea in the last few months would have noticed that pattern. One good half. One bad half. It's either the team isn't ready in the 1st half or the team begins to play much worse in the 2nd after a good 1st half. It's becoming too frequent to not be part of a larger problem. The Chels, Pseudo, Muzchap and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 We dont have to agree with everything he does but supporting a fucking physio over our manager is fucking stupid. People like you go quiet when we win and only start talking trash when things arent going perfectly. So people should show support and side with a party in a dispute based on hierarchy? That's just stupid. The only moral thing to do is to side with and support whoever is the victim (no exceptions). Stingray, Muzchap and Kish9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I am criticizing him for some of his behavior because he's a narcissist and he's toxic as seen by the inability to stay anywhere for any long period of time.Okay I know tensions are high at the moment, but lol what?! How can one of the most successful managers of this century be referred to as narcissistic and toxic? Sure, it remains to be seen how long he will stay with us [despite his claims he'll be here for a prolonged period of time], but that by in no means makes him a toxic. He's not like Fergie, for example, who leaves an aging bone-dry squad to the next coming manager. He lays down foundations for a manager to build upon if anything.Yea, his approach to the game is unorthodox at the best of times. But so was Clough. Fulham Broadway and TheIceMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 If you Don't like and Don't support Mourinho GTFO!!! HRiver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Its passive aggressive when she only does that when Mourinho calls out the medical staff. Why wasn't she acknowledging them the past months she has been worshipped on there?People have been worshipping her for MONTHS on that same page. Why is she talking now? She was being passive aggressive, and a boss in a regular organization would have sacked her for that.If she gave two shits about some bloke in India or Romania telling her how amazing she is she would have started communicating with them long before she came out with this in the news.Or maybe she actually was just thanking fans for their support? She has a huge following and the positive support she got must have been overwhelming. You have no idea as to her intentions, so please stop pretending like you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! zolayes 14,489 Posted August 12, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 12, 2015 If you Don't like and Don't support Mourinho GTFO!!!some of us were fans before Jose arrived , I was probably a fan before you , SO GET SOME FUCKING TIME IN.. I support Chelsea 100 % even when Mourhinhomakes it difficult 11Drogba, mediator, MrExcalibur100 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I for one don't. He's the most overrated manager ever imho. At what point does his "Gentleman persona" make up for his horrible league performances year after year after year at the biggest clubs across Europe. Also don't forget the Ray Wilkins fallout happened under his watch. (not saying he was responsible for his dismissal, but he is responsible for the results that followed.)But I agree generally that it's getting annoying always having one major Negative PR story surround our club. Every manager has had one, but JM loves stirring the pot even when it doesn't need to be touched at all. I'm just surprised he always has the energy to create a conflict at any given moment, doesn't it get tiring? And that's precisely why I miss ancelotti. yes success is arguably the most important factor in football but at what cost?. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! zolayes 14,489 Posted August 12, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted August 12, 2015 And that's precisely why I miss ancelotti. yes success is arguably the most important factor in football but at what cost?.wasnt Carlo the total failure who led us to the League and FA cup double ...???? lionsden, 11Drogba, Muzchap and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIceMan 596 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 some of us were fans before Jose arrived , I was probably a fan before you , SO GET SOME FUCKING TIME IN.. I support Chelsea 100 % even when Mourhinhomakes it difficultYes you are! But probably because you're older than me like a lot! But the first man which I saw as Chelsea manager Is Raniery since than my love for the club has never died! After he left also I supported every one manager since, even Benitez I'm not some Mourinho fanboy but hated on him and callling him names is disrespectfull to the club! I'm not sayin if you don't support Mourinho you don't support Chelsea but the two are very strongly conencted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Or maybe she actually was just thanking fans for their support? She has a huge following and the positive support she got must have been overwhelming. You have no idea as to her intentions, so please stop pretending like you do. Where was this thanking months ago? Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 wasnt Carlo the total failure who led us to the League and FA cup double ...????You must be mistaking Ancelotti for someone else. Carlo has never won a major trophy in his career let alone at Chelsea Roquila 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Yes you are! But probably because you're older than me like a lot! But the first man which I saw as Chelsea manager Is Raniery since than my love for the club has never died! After he left also I supported every one manager since, even Benitez I'm not some Mourinho fanboy but hated on him and callling him names is disrespectfull to the club! I'm not sayin if you don't support Mourinho you don't support Chelsea but the two are very strongly conencted! you posted this ....If you Don't like and Don't support Mourinho GTFO!!! TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 A fire extinguisher is needed before it's too late.I don't agree with the deflection theory because we have n't started yet and M. City talk of 9-0 score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Why are people saying she is getting demoted for doing her job? If that was the case Jon Fearn would have also got demoted. She's been demoted because of her stupid Facebook post. She made it about herself instead of the "medical team". kellzfresh, Barbara and nachikethas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 All I'll say is that things aren't always black and white. I don't want José to get sacked obviously, but it doesn't change the fact that he's acted like a knob here. HE was the one who brought this into the media - shouting on the touchline, talking about it afterwards and doing nothing to try and remedy the situation since. He aired his dirty laundry in public and now we as a club are paying the price with this sort of garbage in the press.It also doesn't change the fact that Eva knew what she was doing with that Facebook post, it was kind of like poking a lion with a stick, and it's just made everything that much worse for the entire club.I'd just like the circus to be over as soon as possible. We have an important game to focus on and it would be great if we didn't have shit like this in the press that has the potential to be an unnecessary distraction - maybe José wants this, but it also has the potential to backfire. Either that or I also wouldn't mind if they just give José the money to sign someone. It would keep the fans happy and it would stop José throwing his toys out of the pram! Muzchap, zolayes and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Yeah, because embarrassing your staff doesn't matter as long as you win.Uh, I wasn't even referring to the Eva Carneiro case, which I find to be of very little importance, I'm more concerned with how Mourinho handles the squad from a tactical point of view. "He's not happy", "bad transfer window", "our football is negative", "one title in three years is not enough" (even if the third year has only just started)... you know, that kind of criticism. I want him to prove these people wrong. TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 CITY destroyed West Brom .... Pullis states it was HIS fault , HE made a tactical mistake ,, So refreshing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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