Rumoured John Stones

[zolayes 14,489]

why let Christiasen go on loan before we got a CB in ?? at least he would have been come cover

[It's too big 625]

We could have ivanovic as a back up centre back if needs be, but we're not in a crisis in defence like some seem to think. If we play Cahill and Zouma in the central pairing and Azpilicueta and Baba either flanks, we shouldn't have a problem for pressing higher. We have just as good a defence as any top team in Europe, it's just individual mistakes that have let us down. We should have thought about strenghtening this area as soon as the window opened though, not 5 days before the close of the window - ridiculous by the board. After all the praise we have been giving the board, they now have made it difficult for themselves to get in replacements so late.

[mikeholiday 209]

why let Christiasen go on loan before we got a CB in ?? at least he would have been come cover

truly boggles the mind. Or Ake at least.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Meh. Let's go elsewhere. His head is clearly in the wrong place now, and Everton have lost the chance to invest the £30-40m he'd have cost. Their loss. We'll go elsewhere and find a suitable (and more experienced...) replacement, i.e. Garay, for half the cost.

[the wes 7,212]

People keep saying "move on an get someone else." I want to hear names from you people. Who are we going to get that as good as Stones or has the potential of Stones? Zero chance we can get Varane, zero chance we can get Laporte this late in the window, and don't give me Hummels either because he ain't leaving Dortmund.

We don't get Stones and we risk disaster if our CB's don't suddenly improve DRASTICALLY. They'll continue to get ripped apart by pace and the ball will continue to go over their heads by a simple lob while they laughably get caught too high up the pitch. Cahill will continue to embarrassed in 1v1 scenarios and JT, love him as we all do, will continue to get ruthlessly exposed when a striker with pace and great movement targets him.

laporte ??

[Jase 43,479]

So, it's morning now. Have Everton rejected the transfer request yet...?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

People keep saying "move on an get someone else." I want to hear names from you people. Who are we going to get that as good as Stones or has the potential of Stones? Zero chance we can get Varane, zero chance we can get Laporte this late in the window, and don't give me Hummels either because he ain't leaving Dortmund.

We don't get Stones and we risk disaster if our CB's don't suddenly improve DRASTICALLY. They'll continue to get ripped apart by pace and the ball will continue to go over their heads by a simple lob while they laughably get caught too high up the pitch. Cahill will continue to embarrassed in 1v1 scenarios and JT, love him as we all do, will continue to get ruthlessly exposed when a striker with pace and great movement targets him.

I'd be amazed if Mourinho hasn't drawn up a list of alternatives. Those alternatives won't be long-term options in the Zouma/Varane/Stones mould, but a mid-term (2-4 years) option in Subotic or Garay is a possibility. Let's be honest, Stones and Zouma are not ready to be immediately thrown into the CL. There needs to be a gradual transition, with Terry giving way to another experienced CB, who, along with Cahill, can bring through Zouma and Stones under their constant tuition. Was John Terry ever thrown into action? No, he was gradually brought in, under the tuition of Desailly and Gallas.

[the wes 7,212]

So, it's morning now. Have Everton rejected the transfer request yet...?

yes Martinez rejected it after the Barnsley game

[Pizy 17,860]

So, it's morning now. Have Everton rejected the transfer request yet...?

Not yet. Wonder if the statement will say definitively that "he's not for sale at any price."

If that happens then it's officially dead.

[the wes 7,212]

Not yet. Wonder if the statement will say definitively that "he's not for sale at any price."

If that happens then it's officially dead.

it's the modric deal all over again ffs ???

[Jase 43,479]

Not yet. Wonder if the statement will say definitively that "he's not for sale at any price."

If that happens then it's officially dead.

OR it could be just a ploy to get more $$$$$. Find it funny that Everton are so adamant on not selling Stones when they have sold key players in the past. They might be able to keep Stones in this window, but it's unlikely they will be able to do that in the future because whatever they perceive themselves to be, they aren't in a position to keep hold of the best players for long.

[the wes 7,212]

Rumour is its £45m now

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2556099-chelsea-transfer-news-mega-john-stones-price-demanded-by-everton-fresh-rumours

[Pizy 17,860]

I'd be amazed if Mourinho hasn't drawn up a list of alternatives. Those alternatives won't be long-term options in the Zouma/Varane/Stones mould, but a mid-term (2-4 years) option in Subotic or Garay is a possibility. Let's be honest, Stones and Zouma are not ready to be immediately thrown into the CL. There needs to be a gradual transition, with Terry giving way to another experienced CB, who, along with Cahill, can bring through Zouma and Stones under their constant tuition. Was John Terry ever thrown into action? No, he was gradually brought in, under the tuition of Desailly and Gallas.

Great points. I think that Stones can/could have been gradually eased in. Didn't have to start 100% of our games this season.

I just have my reservations about "settling" for a stopgap or short term player. We've seen how badly it can turn out first hand recently. Big names aren't available so we buy for the sake of making up the numbers and end up regretting it quickly.

[Pizy 17,860]

OR it could be just a ploy to get more $$$$$. Find it funny that Everton are so adamant on not selling Stones when they have sold key players in the past. They might be able to keep Stones in this window, but it's unlikely they will be able to do that in the future because whatever they perceive themselves to be, they aren't in a position to keep hold of the best players for long.

They kind of will be in a position to keep them. They'll be making well over £100m in annual TV revenue starting next season.

[Fulham Broadway 16,381]

Hes not respected already, they followed him home last night. Red or Blue theyre still scousers

http://m.101greatgoals.com/top-stories/everton-fans-abuse-john-stones-after-barnsley-called-a-chelsea-target-a-rat-fans-follow-him-home-videos/

[Jase 43,479]

They kind of will be in a position to keep them. They'll be making well over £100m in annual TV revenue starting next season.

But the big clubs will also get that kind of money. If you want big pay AND a chance to win major trophies, you won't go to Everton. At the end of the day, teams like Chelsea, Man United, Man City, Arsenal etc will still be able to offer more than the lesser clubs to players.

[TheIceMan 596]

Fuck this! Time to move on!

[Special Juan 27,092]

Hes not respected already, they followed him home last night. Red or Blue theyre still scousers

http://m.101greatgoals.com/top-stories/everton-fans-abuse-john-stones-after-barnsley-called-a-chelsea-target-a-rat-fans-follow-him-home-videos/

Forcing him out....lovely.