Jase 43,479 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 A random note - Everton play Man City at Goodison Park this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 £40m is a joke go for Laporte his release clause is £30mhttp://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/437959/Bilbao-president-Arsenal-Chelsea-Man-Utd-Man-City-must-sign-LaporteAthletic wouldn't agree to a deal. They'd force us to pay the buyout clause meaning potentially heavy taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Mirror or mail saying abramovich has ok'd at least three new signings. Going to push for stones plus jose wants a cm and another attacker according to the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Guardian also say roman has agreed to go into the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,902 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'll believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I really hope we paying at least 15M in performance related incentives or add ons.. At least we are getting a bigger deal done, even if it is the 18th of August... took fucking long enough didn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I really hope we paying at least 15M in performance related incentives or add ons.. At least we are getting a bigger deal done, even if it is the 18th of August... took fucking long enough didn't it. Better late than never, yesterday was the lowest I've felt as a fan since we lost at home to QPR if not the last days off AVB, I even made peace with the fact we are going to have an awful season, if this is true it will be a real lift and hopefully all the drama will blow over and we can properly start our bid for back to back titles.Also if this teaches us not to stand still in future summer's, this summer could serve as a good thing in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Stones is a completely different sort of CB compared to Zouma. Stones can also play RB very competently.In fact, we could easily play something like:Azpi - JT - Zouma - Stones. Or partner up Zouma and Stones in some games because they're both mature enough. They complement each other very well.For me, John Stones isn't a signing for just now. It's an astute signing for the future. The Zouma - Stones partnership could be amazing in the future.Well for a start, I would be extremely surprised if Mou actualy played Zouma, Stones in big games in first place. But obviously he wont.What will happen is that either Zouma or Stones will sit on bench. No fucking way those two will both get time to develop here to become world class. Im sure you know Mou well yourself and I dont have to explain that to you anyway. One thing is dreaming. Other is reality. If Mou actualy turns Zouma and Stones into world class CB pairing, Im happy even if we spend next season without titles but integrating such players into team for long term plan. But it wont happen. Mou is Mou and unless Zouma/Stones wont prove it in short time, at least one of them is doomed and Mou will go for top CB eventualy.Im not sure what is with the forum to be so optimistic recent months. Falcao wont flop, Zouma and Stones will form our defense for next 10 years, Cesc is going to do his job in big game, Chelsea under Mou will actualy control the tempo in big game etc etc...people have to face the truth. We are far from top team right now. Even I who was quite optimistic that we will defend the title for sure two months ago, Im not that sure anymore. But there is a bigger problem within our squad. Our rb is playing as winger, our RW is as creative as Bosingwa, Oscar progress stalling, Costa injured, Cesc not doing it in key games, our squad depth still lies on Ramires, Mikel and Cuad, endless spendings on fixing RW without solution.A year ago, during august-october. That was the Chelsea I loved. Not so much because of results. We were winning even after the break. But during those first three months we actualy played football. For the first time in long time I saw Chelsea so well organised for longer period. Attack, defense, midfield. Everything clicked. But ever since, we couldnt make such run again. Football is as it is, unpredictable and every team has ups and downs. But for Chelsea, I havent seen one, ONE improvement since october 2014. We went downhill actualy. Playing more defensive, safe, our attack is still as dull as two years ago. Where are the movement, smart passing, team work? Our defense was good. But defenders, not exactly. We defend with 8 men, it makes our defenders much better than what they are.All in all, we play safe in big games. But I dont see that much advantage in that anymore. We dont get positive results that much as Mou did in past. City went open in recent game. And they had no problem defending.The real win on how to defend it is that you suceed doing it with normal formation, and at same time play football and attack. Not to close down with 8-10 men and play on away result, draw, hoping to score from that one chance. That is one form, but its when team is in transition. Now we have established, we spent millions and millions on players to see what? Same football we played in 2013.Mou says he will play more open, nicer football, giving chances to youth etc. But thats all bulshit. He still does same as he did years ago. If thats how you intend to play, spend 50m on Vidal. But dont buy players like Cesc or Willian who are either absolute shit in bigger games and off the ball or dont have ability to make things happen when they need to.People point our PL title way too high. We werent that great, opponents were shit. We were only realy good during first three months and then had game here and there after where we played realy well. Our CL run was true showing where we are right now. Mou went into safe mode for second time in row and failed. I wont be surprised if he goes same way this year again (not saying we have zero chances tho).I went way too far now, but hopefuly you get my point. We play like absolute shit, with Ramires on RW ffs, midfield has no legs, defense is bad, attack has no creativity and connection, yet Mou idea to improve us is to splash 50m pounds+ on Baba and Stones? Ok.Finaly I get that our financial plan now is to be more careful, but we should still be able to buy world class players if we wanted (and we should buy one this summer because we clearly need it), but Mou says publicly we cant afford Pogba? What the hell is that? We cant buy Pogba for 90m euros but we can buy Stones+Baba for 70m euros. Explain that shit, because I dont get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Ran out of patience already, eh?you can say it was the straw that broke the camel's back.but on the other hand, this is just getting silly. 40mil pounds for john stones, is downright ridiculous. even a 3-0 defeat to city cant make this seem fine. i am sorry, but this is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun 721 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'll be shocked if he goes though the board may have their hands tied if a silly £45-£50m bid comes in.I don't know why you guys get excited over what the papers say (especially shit like the Sun). The Daily Mail have been adamant all summer that James McCarthy was unhappy at Everton and off to Spurs. He signed a four year contract last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'll be shocked if he goes though the board may have their hands tied if a silly £45-£50m bid comes in.I don't know why you guys get excited over what the papers say (especially shit like the Sun). The Daily Mail have been adamant all summer that James McCarthy was unhappy at Everton and off to Spurs. He signed a four year contract last week.Well then he was clearly unhappy about his wages and that has been fixed, so they were accurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,507 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Sign him up already, we clearly need a fresh backline, and another CM and Winger wouldn´t hurt us either, we are lacking in certain areas, we look clueless at the moment, how can we call ourselves defending champions ? is this what it has come to? wake the f*ck up because this is just ridiculous. Look, i really want things to get better and i hope they do very soon, i just want the team to shape up and react, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Dp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Sign him up already, we clearly need a fresh backline, and another CM and Winger wouldn´t hurt us either, we are lacking in certain areas, we look clueless at the moment, how can we call ourselves defending champions ? is this what it has come to? wake the f*ck up because this is just ridiculous. Look, i really want things to get better and i hope they do very soon, i just want the team to shape up and react, cheers.We are all feeling the same way mate and while injections of fresh blood is ALWAYS necessary and needed (badly bu is right now) our problems lie much deeper than that.Right now everyone knows what we are going to bring to the table. They know how we play and they know who we will play so they know what tactics to use to win.Generally they know if they keep Eden out of the game (when he is awake) most of our creativity is gone. They know if they dont give Cescy time or space the rest of our creativits is buggered. They know if they attack our Bane/Cahill weakspot its their best chance to score.We have become predictable. WE know what players will be selected in 99% of games and IMHO thats not good. The lads NEED to feel their place on the starting team is in jeopardy they need to WANT to play. I dont know if theyre minds and bodies are just knackered but wheres the passion?Players respond in different ways. Some need their egos stroking, some need their heads patting and a hug, some need a size 13 boot up their arse.Why we are all so frustrated and sad is if we can wee our problems without the footballing brains of our powers that be then why dont they see it and sort it? The only conclusions we can come up with (because we have active imaginations and its our best guess) is theres problems behind the scenes.But IF theyre happy to offer £34 mill for Stones the problem surely cant be money.Who knows? Im sure it will all come out in the wash. But it will probably get worse before it gets better so hold on it might get bumpy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack17 205 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 35m for him? I would rather go for Otamendi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 id go up to 65 mil(pounds yes pounds) for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Guardian also say roman has agreed to go into the marketIf it's taken a poor pre season and a shit start to the PL to realise now that we need signings, then I actually worry about the boards outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 id go up to 65 mil(pounds yes pounds) for him In their dreams... Because of our desperate situation, we should go 35 mil and seal the deal. If they don't sell for that price, they're crazy he won't ever be worth mentioning than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 35m for him? I would rather go for OtamendiOne decent season at Valencia and people suddenly think Otamendi is a good defender. He was an error prone player during his time at Porto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One decent season at Valencia and people suddenly think Otamendi is a good defender. He was an error prone player during his time at Porto.Otamendi is much better than Stones. Stones has higher potential tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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